Program owners: 30-100 sales a day realistic? - GoFuckYourself.com

clickclickclick · 02-14-2007, 07:22 PM

is it realistic to get 30-100 FULL membership signups on a paysite's owner point of view per day?

for argument sake: there are no trials, and members stay 2-5 months.

any other info you need i will be happy to provide.

FreeHugeMovies · 02-14-2007, 07:23 PM

I would have to say far more than that

clickclickclick · 02-14-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

I would have to say far more than that

this is stupid question but for a small program, does anyone have a ballpark figure as to what % of sales are brought by affiliates and what % are personal.

its hard to gauge this. but ballpark figures would be great.

HighSociety · 02-14-2007, 07:27 PM

I think every site would be different. Ours is about 25% all from one affiliate

Lykos · 02-14-2007, 07:54 PM

i think its very resonable,and 30.-100 is big difference,lol

ER!C L!VE · 02-14-2007, 08:25 PM

Yes 4567

clickclickclick · 02-14-2007, 08:33 PM

interesting.

i guess then it depends on the overhead cost and likely hosting

BIGTYMER · 02-14-2007, 08:46 PM

Yes, but there is a ton of factors to consider.

nekrom · 02-14-2007, 08:47 PM

I'd say you could easily get x amount of full joins a day to your site/s with your own inhouse traffic, dependant on how much of it you have. Obviously the more traffic you have the more sales.

As for affs sending sales, that again depends on their traffic volumes. But I'd still say that 20% of your affs would send 80% of your total aff sales.

-N

clickclickclick · 02-14-2007, 08:59 PM

well i am calculating that webmaster payout, processing and other cost would hover 65% (assuming 50% revshare, processing at 9-10% mainstream merchant) and 5% for misc.

and then 10% would go to overhead and hosting
the remaining 25% would be net profit or for reinvestment into marketing and distribution.

Quick Buck · 02-14-2007, 09:04 PM

this is a very good place to get business advice.

After Shock Media · 02-14-2007, 09:09 PM

30 to 100 sales a day for a new program, unlikely though feasable.

Most of my sites sales are inhouse and about 15% from affiliates.

Typical affiliate break downs will be this though:
10% of your affiliates will bring in 80% of all affiliate sales and 10% of those will account for about 50% of those.

Shoplifter · 02-14-2007, 09:17 PM

The answer is yes.

As for the percentage sold by affiliates... 90% of affiliates are clueless and are just gonna load up FHG's into their TGP's and waste bandwidth. Think about in house traffic first.

However you may find one or two affiliates who know what they are doing, you never know.

clickclickclick · 02-15-2007, 06:29 AM

well 30 sales if its without webmaster commission is very good.
with it, 50% just goes out the window which is a big chunk of change

mufas · 02-15-2007, 06:31 AM

Yes no problem. 2500 SU / month

Phoenix · 02-15-2007, 06:34 AM

i would say most programs never go over 100 joins a day

the mgp crowd can get some good guys pushing for them thogh so that can add up

clickclickclick · 02-15-2007, 06:52 AM

would it be safe to say that 100 sales + recurring per day realistic?

Yanks_Todd · 02-15-2007, 06:57 AM

We do 90% in house and 10% affiliate. I always look to pull in a higher affiliate percentages. But realistically I do like the control I have now.

clickclickclick · 02-15-2007, 07:17 AM

damn, at 10% affiliates.. i would love to get upto 40% for me.. hmm i do offer an attractive revshare + other income tho..

IllTestYourGirls · 02-15-2007, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickclickclick

is it realistic to get 30-100 FULL membership signups on a paysite's owner point of view per day?

for argument sake: there are no trials, and members stay 2-5 months.

any other info you need i will be happy to provide.

I would love to promote your site when it is up and running. Keep me in mind.

clickclickclick · 02-15-2007, 07:48 AM

interesting, well getting affiliates aboard is always a good thing.

Rui · 02-15-2007, 07:56 AM

Depends in allot of things, first are you are off base if you think you will have many 5 month rebills, those days are gone.

As for the number of sign ups it boils down to:
- what you offer
- how you offer it
- what are you willing to spend to achieve it

You need to put allot more info into the equation before trying to think "can I do this and that"

Klen · 02-15-2007, 08:14 AM

For small program this will be even more then great.A lot of small programs barely made any sale.

Chris · 02-15-2007, 08:24 AM

keep it 10-20 affilate traffic 80-90 in house

Wizzo · 02-15-2007, 08:36 AM

Realistic for a new program, probably not unless it was run by a well known experienced program owner...

Most programs would kill for 50 signups a day, but it is possible as we do WELL over that each and every day... We even have a number of affiliates that single handily can make those numbers each day.

Kenny B! · 02-15-2007, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Quick Buck

this is a very good place to get business advice.

clickclickclick · 02-15-2007, 11:16 AM

i know inhouse i can generate anywhere from 10-20 a day of full sales

but i was expecting more along the lines of 40-50.

i really want to push for affiliates since i am willing to pay them ALOT of revshare (like depending on members, i can pull in 90%+ in revshare) . so much so that it would sound stupid to program owners but it makes sense to me to growing this type of site.

kristin · 02-15-2007, 11:19 AM

Yes, I've seen a few do it ... one I've seen pull in 100-200 sales/day on full memberships.

Fizzgig · 02-15-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by clickclickclick

well 30 sales if its without webmaster commission is very good.
with it, 50% just goes out the window which is a big chunk of change

I looks at affiliate sales as 'found money' money I would not have had without the affiliate. If I make a profit on affiliate sales I'm happy.

clickclickclick · 02-15-2007, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Fizzgig

I looks at affiliate sales as 'found money' money I would not have had without the affiliate. If I make a profit on affiliate sales I'm happy.

damn, my whole business model is based on the fact that it would make affiliates alot of potential long term cash.

no doubt i can generate sales. but i am a big believer in paying affiliates for getting quality leads.

i guess my question comes down to what will eventually be my overhead costs

MrChips · 02-15-2007, 02:24 PM

Nastydollars would probably laugh.

02-14-2007, 07:22 PM	#1
clickclickclick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,227	Program owners: 30-100 sales a day realistic? is it realistic to get 30-100 FULL membership signups on a paysite's owner point of view per day? for argument sake: there are no trials, and members stay 2-5 months. any other info you need i will be happy to provide. __________________ if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;) p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

02-14-2007, 07:27 PM	#4
HighSociety Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,786	I think every site would be different. Ours is about 25% all from one affiliate __________________ http://www.highsociety.com http://www.playgirl.com http://www.cheri.com Jonathan "JC" Maldini ICQ: 223 643

02-14-2007, 07:54 PM	#5
Lykos Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: World Posts: 31,027	i think its very resonable,and 30.-100 is big difference,lol __________________

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ER!C L!VE Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: WORLDW!DE Posts: 724	Yes 4567 __________________ www.BackroomCastingCouch.com www.ExploitedCollegeGirls.com www.FCUKCash.com

02-14-2007, 08:33 PM	#7
clickclickclick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,227	interesting. i guess then it depends on the overhead cost and likely hosting __________________ if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;) p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

02-14-2007, 07:23 PM	#2
FreeHugeMovies Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14,137	I would have to say far more than that

02-14-2007, 08:46 PM	#8
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	Yes, but there is a ton of factors to consider.

02-14-2007, 08:47 PM	#9
nekrom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Australia/Asia Posts: 921	I'd say you could easily get x amount of full joins a day to your site/s with your own inhouse traffic, dependant on how much of it you have. Obviously the more traffic you have the more sales. As for affs sending sales, that again depends on their traffic volumes. But I'd still say that 20% of your affs would send 80% of your total aff sales. -N __________________ Free Traffic

02-14-2007, 08:59 PM	#10
clickclickclick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,227	well i am calculating that webmaster payout, processing and other cost would hover 65% (assuming 50% revshare, processing at 9-10% mainstream merchant) and 5% for misc. and then 10% would go to overhead and hosting the remaining 25% would be net profit or for reinvestment into marketing and distribution. __________________ if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;) p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

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After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	30 to 100 sales a day for a new program, unlikely though feasable. Most of my sites sales are inhouse and about 15% from affiliates. Typical affiliate break downs will be this though: 10% of your affiliates will bring in 80% of all affiliate sales and 10% of those will account for about 50% of those. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

02-14-2007, 09:17 PM	#13
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,727	The answer is yes. As for the percentage sold by affiliates... 90% of affiliates are clueless and are just gonna load up FHG's into their TGP's and waste bandwidth. Think about in house traffic first. However you may find one or two affiliates who know what they are doing, you never know.

02-15-2007, 06:29 AM	#14
clickclickclick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,227	well 30 sales if its without webmaster commission is very good. with it, 50% just goes out the window which is a big chunk of change __________________ if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;) p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

02-15-2007, 06:31 AM	#15
mufas Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 1,054	Yes no problem. 2500 SU / month __________________

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Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,462	i would say most programs never go over 100 joins a day the mgp crowd can get some good guys pushing for them thogh so that can add up __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

02-15-2007, 06:52 AM	#17
clickclickclick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,227	would it be safe to say that 100 sales + recurring per day realistic? __________________ if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;) p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

02-15-2007, 06:57 AM	#18
Yanks_Todd Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Valencia Posts: 2,490	We do 90% in house and 10% affiliate. I always look to pull in a higher affiliate percentages. But realistically I do like the control I have now. __________________ Todd Spaits - Co-founder -YanksCash Premium ad-packages available - Skype for details - tmspaits

02-15-2007, 07:17 AM	#19
clickclickclick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,227	damn, at 10% affiliates.. i would love to get upto 40% for me.. hmm i do offer an attractive revshare + other income tho.. __________________ if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;) p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

02-15-2007, 07:48 AM	#21
clickclickclick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,227	interesting, well getting affiliates aboard is always a good thing. __________________ if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;) p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

02-15-2007, 07:56 AM	#22
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	Depends in allot of things, first are you are off base if you think you will have many 5 month rebills, those days are gone. As for the number of sign ups it boils down to: - what you offer - how you offer it - what are you willing to spend to achieve it You need to put allot more info into the equation before trying to think "can I do this and that"

02-15-2007, 08:14 AM	#23
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	For small program this will be even more then great.A lot of small programs barely made any sale.

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Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	keep it 10-20 affilate traffic 80-90 in house __________________ [email protected]

02-15-2007, 08:36 AM	#25
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	Realistic for a new program, probably not unless it was run by a well known experienced program owner... Most programs would kill for 50 signups a day, but it is possible as we do WELL over that each and every day... We even have a number of affiliates that single handily can make those numbers each day. __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

02-15-2007, 11:16 AM	#27
clickclickclick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,227	i know inhouse i can generate anywhere from 10-20 a day of full sales but i was expecting more along the lines of 40-50. i really want to push for affiliates since i am willing to pay them ALOT of revshare (like depending on members, i can pull in 90%+ in revshare) . so much so that it would sound stupid to program owners but it makes sense to me to growing this type of site. __________________ if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;) p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

02-15-2007, 11:19 AM	#28
kristin GOO! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Back Home : ) Posts: 9,768	Yes, I've seen a few do it ... one I've seen pull in 100-200 sales/day on full memberships. __________________ Vacares rules. "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

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MrChips Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,504	Nastydollars would probably laugh.