Not even Canada is safe from the US gambling ban - GoFuckYourself.com

Masterchief · 02-12-2007, 09:36 AM

http://www.pokerbandits.ca/

GO TEAM AMERICA!

pornguy · 02-12-2007, 09:38 AM

Some day people will learn that the LONG ARM of the US LAW is something that we all may deal with one day or another.

Antonio · 02-12-2007, 09:51 AM

lol, you give this thumbs up?????????

wait till the Chinese take over - that'll make you even happier, then you'll see similar message on all your adult sites (in Chinese though)

comeplay · 02-12-2007, 09:51 AM

with all the banners you would think they would make them links

comeplay · 02-12-2007, 09:52 AM

there is no money in online gambling also

Kimo · 02-12-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by comeplay

there is no money in online gambling also

FuqALot · 02-12-2007, 10:00 AM

usa = corrupt

Adultnet · 02-12-2007, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

Some day people will learn that the LONG ARM of the US LAW is something that we all may deal with one day or another.

lets hope that the law will be on the good side

Nysus · 02-12-2007, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

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wait till the Chinese take over - that'll make you even happier, then you'll see similar message on all your adult sites (in Chinese though)

That's a great comparison to wake people up to show them what the US doing this means.

Evil E · 02-12-2007, 10:33 AM

That page looks like it's a joke. My eyes are bleeding.

gigi · 02-12-2007, 10:41 AM

The implications go so much further than simply gambling sites.....truly a disturbing thread....

fris · 02-12-2007, 10:42 AM

http://www.starterupsteve.com/flash/...mericafy.shtml

billybathgate · 02-12-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by comeplay

there is no money in online gambling

I didnt think so either

Pleasurepays · 02-12-2007, 11:02 AM

its amazing that everyone thinks its crazy that a country would protect its own trillion dollar industry. right, wrong, moral, hypocritical etc etc... is irrelevant. every country does the same. granted, this seems to be quite a reach in terms of the law and violates WTO agreements but the stakes are also extremely high and from a purely economic perspective, worth the fight and fallout. if any country was bringing in and/or generating triillons of dollars from one industryand suddenly, it was threatened,.... just like any other country, they would fight to protect it... and as they did so, no one on the outside would think or agree that its fair. thats life. puppies die. little girls get cancer and the US Government tries to protect its own gaming industry.

MetaMan · 02-12-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

its amazing that everyone thinks its crazy that a country would protect its own trillion dollar industry. right, wrong, moral, hypocritical etc etc... is irrelevant. every country does the same. granted, this seems to be quite a reach in terms of the law and violates WTO agreements but the stakes are also extremely high and from a purely economic perspective, worth the fight and fallout. if any country was bringing in and/or generating triillons of dollars from one industryand suddenly, it was threatened,.... just like any other country, they would fight to protect it... and as they did so, no one on the outside would think or agree that its fair. thats life. puppies die. little girls get cancer and the US Government tries to protect its own gaming industry.

yes i think every country should sue vegas casinos for allowing their citizens to gamble there and not pay (if) any taxes on it.

it is the same deal with online gambling it is not the online casinos fault that the american citizens come to gamble, if they are based out of another country they should not be touched. it is the american citizens that are the ones breaking the law.

you cannot have a foreign country trying to strongarm other countries companies out of business.

Pleasurepays · 02-12-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

yes i think every country should sue vegas casinos for allowing their citizens to gamble there and not pay (if) any taxes on it.

it is the same deal with online gambling it is not the online casinos fault that the american citizens come to gamble, if they are based out of another country they should not be touched. it is the american citizens that are the ones breaking the law.

you cannot have a foreign country trying to strongarm other countries companies out of business.

again for the illiterate... i'm not saying its right or wrong or defening it. i am just saying that its logical. every nation on earth fights to protect its own political, security and economic interests. nothing new in that.

and maybe you are right. maybe foreign countries should sue US casinos. why not (besides the painfully obvious problem of tracking and indentifying money lost or won by patrons)? why is that any less unreasonable?

MetaMan · 02-12-2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

again for the illiterate... i'm not saying its right or wrong or defening it. i am just saying that its logical. every nation on earth fights to protect its own political, security and economic interests. nothing new in that.

and maybe you are right. maybe foreign countries should sue US casinos. why not (besides the painfully obvious problem of tracking and indentifying money lost or won by patrons)? why is that any less unreasonable?

Again for the illiterate... i never said you were saying it's right or wrong or that you were defending it. I was merely responding to your post to create disscussion.

Pleasurepays · 02-12-2007, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

you cannot have a foreign country trying to strongarm other countries companies out of business.

but its totally ok for the ENTIRE western world to strong arm the ENTIRE continent of Africa out of business and into starvation with unfair trade practices, illegal agriculture subsidies and discriminatory import duties. hypocrisy is everywhere. every nation protects its own interests under the guise of "doing the right thing".

MetaMan · 02-12-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

but its totally ok for the ENTIRE western world to strong arm the ENTIRE continent of Africa out of business and into starvation with unfair trade practices, illegal agriculture subsidies and discriminatory import duties. hypocrisy is everywhere. every nation protects its own interests under the guise of "doing the right thing".

OFF TOPIC

"not even Canada is safe from the US gambling ban"

for the illiterate... i never said it was ok, i dont know where you pulled this out of your ass, your post has nothing to do with the thread, if you feel the need to start your own inner discussion start your own thread.

Pleasurepays · 02-12-2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

OFF TOPIC

"not even Canada is safe from the US gambling ban"

for the illiterate... i never said it was ok, i dont know where you pulled this out of your ass, your post has nothing to do with the thread, if you feel the need to start your own inner discussion start your own thread.

i was responding to your remark. the one that was in quotes in my post. the quotes... being their to identify what the response was directed to.

you need to go to Vegas and thaw out and relax.

also, good luck in your pursuit of a career as a message board moderator. you're off to a strong start. you'll find the pay is shit... but apparently you will really enjoy the percieved sense of power and authority.

MetaMan · 02-12-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

i was responding to your remark. the one that was in quotes in my post. the quotes... being their to identify what the response was directed to.

you need to go to Vegas and thaw out and relax.

also, good luck in your pursuit of a career as a message board moderator. you're off to a strong start. you'll find the pay is shit... but apparently you will really enjoy the percieved sense of power and authority.

OFF TOPIC again, good job son.

Pleasurepays · 02-12-2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

OFF TOPIC again, good job son.

please don't ban me. i promise to respect your authority and follow your rules and swear to jesus christ and the canadian prime minister to be good.

Brad · 02-12-2007, 11:29 AM

America, Fuck ya!!! Coming to save the Mutherfucking day ya!!!

FuqALot · 02-12-2007, 11:31 AM

nothing really changed

there are still sites accepting usa players

usa people are still playing online poker for real money

there are still affiliates making 10,000+ a day from online gambling

MetaMan · 02-12-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

please don't ban me. i promise to respect your authority and follow your rules and swear to jesus christ and the canadian prime minister to be good.

i have no idea what you are talking about, why would i want you banned? i do not care if you respect me you have that right.

you made a good point, i feel i made a good point, then you totally strayed away from the topic.

i am just not going to go into a conversation with you that has nothing to do with the topic, which it seems you have me doing anyway by responding to your post.

Pleasurepays · 02-12-2007, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

i have no idea what you are talking about, why would i want you banned? i do not care if you respect me you have that right.

you made a good point, i feel i made a good point, then you totally strayed away from the topic.

i am just not going to go into a conversation with you that has nothing to do with the topic, which it seems you have me doing anyway by responding to your post.

dude... seriously. you are way off topic.

get a grip!

MetaMan · 02-12-2007, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

dude... seriously. you are way off topic.

get a grip!

i am just following your lead...

Slickster · 02-12-2007, 11:59 AM

This might have had something to do with it http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:Ishz43LjE1QJ:www.pokerbandits.ca/showthread.php%3Ft%3D16+pokerbandits.ca&hl=en&ct=c lnk&cd=2&gl=ca

FuqALot · 02-12-2007, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Slickster

This might have had something to do with it http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:Ishz43LjE1QJ:www.pokerbandits.ca/showthread.php%3Ft%3D16+pokerbandits.ca&hl=en&ct=c lnk&cd=2&gl=ca

nice find. who says the government isn't monitoring online forums?

they are definitely reading gfy too. hi fox

madawgz · 02-12-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Slickster

This might have had something to do with it http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:Ishz43LjE1QJ:www.pokerbandits.ca/showthread.php%3Ft%3D16+pokerbandits.ca&hl=en&ct=c lnk&cd=2&gl=ca

yeah thats probbly it...

DaddyHalbucks · 02-12-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Slickster

This might have had something to do with it http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:Ishz43LjE1QJ:www.pokerbandits.ca/showthread.php%3Ft%3D16+pokerbandits.ca&hl=en&ct=c lnk&cd=2&gl=ca

That explains alot.

It appears that the former site was a tutorial for breaking the law.

Of course it was shut down. Duh.

comeplay · 02-12-2007, 01:11 PM

The house always wins.

gigi · 02-12-2007, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

That explains alot.

It appears that the former site was a tutorial for breaking the law.

Of course it was shut down. Duh.

Ermm ....a foreign law....

Not to mention the umpteen websites featuring the making of illegal bombs and such, how to make meth in your own home etc..... it's called free speech ....

Not to mention the contents of that forum don't change the fact that the FBI has infiltrated Canadian jurisdiction.....

needlive · 02-12-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FuqALot

nice find. who says the government isn't monitoring online forums?

they are definitely reading gfy too.

now I doubt that one

interracialtoons · 02-12-2007, 02:32 PM

The war on gambling will go the route of the war on drugs.
The gamblers will just find a differrent way to do it.
The US will have wasted billions of dollars before we finally give up on it.

Masterchief · 02-12-2007, 02:33 PM

Canada has always been the 51th US State, dunno why everyone is surprised.

gigi · 02-12-2007, 02:33 PM

After doing some digging, the general consensus in online gambling circles is that the site is a fake. Canadian authorities are saying it's a hoax, and FBI sources say the same.

Still looking/waiting for confirmation on this.

gigi · 02-12-2007, 04:41 PM

From Casino City

Pokerbandits.ca shut down a hoax

February 12, 2007
by Aaron Todd

It appears that the Internet rumors that pokerbandits.ca was shut down by the U.S. Department of Justice, the FBI and the Canadian government were just that: Internet rumors.

Officials from all three authorities had not heard of the Web site and denied any part in the removal of content from the site.

Pokerbandits.ca, which until recently offered advice on how Americans could get around Internet gambling restrictions, announced this morning that it had been shut down.

"This site has been shut down by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Department of Justice in conjunction with Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada," read bold black text over a brick red background.

"Normally we don't comment on ongoing cases," said Justice Department spokeswoman Jaclyn Lesch. "But I'm not getting any indication that we're involved in this whatsoever."

An FBI spokesman also knew nothing about the site.

"I checked the cyber division, the Department of Justice, and no one seems to know anything about it," said FBI agent Paul Bresson.

The domain was registered at Namespro.ca on Oct. 23, 2006, just weeks after the UIGEA was passed in Congress. This morning, a "WHOIS" search revealed that the registration information had been changed Sunday and the "Government of Canada" in "Gatineau, Quebec," was listed as the site's administrative mailing address.

"Jack Chow" was listed as the administrative and technical contact for the site, but the phone number led instead to Michael Gee, the contact person for the Public Works and Government Services Web site.

"This information is totally false," Gee said of the WHOIS information. "This person must have seen that I have a Chinese name and made up a different (Chinese name)."

Gee also pointed out that the e-mail address points to a domain that does not exist, and that the phone number listed includes an extension, despite the fact that the department's phone numbers have no extensions and can be directly dialed.

"If someone wants to falsify something, there's not much we can do about that," said David Hicks, a spokesman for the Canadian Internet Registration Authority. "In regards to CIRA, when people provide false information, we can remove the domain, but we really don't do that very often."

Hicks added that CIRA also removes sites with illegal information on occasion, but that wasn't the case with pokerbandits.ca.

Shortly after Casino City contacted CIRA, visitors to pokerbandits.ca were greeted by a "Forbidden" error message, announcing the user did not have access to the server. A second WHOIS search revealed that the contact information was changed, listing Arif Khan as the Administrative and Technical contact, and all references to the Canadian government had been removed.

Pokerbandits.ca had offered information on one of its message boards how American citizens could get around the UIGEA.

The step-by-step guide suggested Americans could use Canadian mailing addresses and IP masking technology to sign up for Internet gambling accounts.

Casino City was unable to contact Khan, and e-mails and phone calls to "Raven Corp," which published a press release announcing pokerbandits.ca's guide to getting around the UIGEA in January, were unanswered.

***********

gigi · 02-12-2007, 04:46 PM

And by the way...what a brilliant plan..... think about how many 1way links that domain got today on webmaster boards.....in a couple of days the content is replaced with a gambling portal and will kick ass in google .....brilliant I tell ya....

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Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	its amazing that everyone thinks its crazy that a country would protect its own trillion dollar industry. right, wrong, moral, hypocritical etc etc... is irrelevant. every country does the same. granted, this seems to be quite a reach in terms of the law and violates WTO agreements but the stakes are also extremely high and from a purely economic perspective, worth the fight and fallout. if any country was bringing in and/or generating triillons of dollars from one industryand suddenly, it was threatened,.... just like any other country, they would fight to protect it... and as they did so, no one on the outside would think or agree that its fair. thats life. puppies die. little girls get cancer and the US Government tries to protect its own gaming industry.

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FuqALot Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Malibu Posts: 3,817	nothing really changed there are still sites accepting usa players usa people are still playing online poker for real money there are still affiliates making 10,000+ a day from online gambling

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interracialtoons Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,910	The war on gambling will go the route of the war on drugs. The gamblers will just find a differrent way to do it. The US will have wasted billions of dollars before we finally give up on it. __________________ Done.

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Masterchief Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 530	Canada has always been the 51th US State, dunno why everyone is surprised.

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gigi Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 691	From Casino City Pokerbandits.ca shut down a hoax February 12, 2007 by Aaron Todd It appears that the Internet rumors that pokerbandits.ca was shut down by the U.S. Department of Justice, the FBI and the Canadian government were just that: Internet rumors. Officials from all three authorities had not heard of the Web site and denied any part in the removal of content from the site. Pokerbandits.ca, which until recently offered advice on how Americans could get around Internet gambling restrictions, announced this morning that it had been shut down. "This site has been shut down by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Department of Justice in conjunction with Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada," read bold black text over a brick red background. "Normally we don't comment on ongoing cases," said Justice Department spokeswoman Jaclyn Lesch. "But I'm not getting any indication that we're involved in this whatsoever." An FBI spokesman also knew nothing about the site. "I checked the cyber division, the Department of Justice, and no one seems to know anything about it," said FBI agent Paul Bresson. The domain was registered at Namespro.ca on Oct. 23, 2006, just weeks after the UIGEA was passed in Congress. This morning, a "WHOIS" search revealed that the registration information had been changed Sunday and the "Government of Canada" in "Gatineau, Quebec," was listed as the site's administrative mailing address. "Jack Chow" was listed as the administrative and technical contact for the site, but the phone number led instead to Michael Gee, the contact person for the Public Works and Government Services Web site. "This information is totally false," Gee said of the WHOIS information. "This person must have seen that I have a Chinese name and made up a different (Chinese name)." Gee also pointed out that the e-mail address points to a domain that does not exist, and that the phone number listed includes an extension, despite the fact that the department's phone numbers have no extensions and can be directly dialed. "If someone wants to falsify something, there's not much we can do about that," said David Hicks, a spokesman for the Canadian Internet Registration Authority. "In regards to CIRA, when people provide false information, we can remove the domain, but we really don't do that very often." Hicks added that CIRA also removes sites with illegal information on occasion, but that wasn't the case with pokerbandits.ca. Shortly after Casino City contacted CIRA, visitors to pokerbandits.ca were greeted by a "Forbidden" error message, announcing the user did not have access to the server. A second WHOIS search revealed that the contact information was changed, listing Arif Khan as the Administrative and Technical contact, and all references to the Canadian government had been removed. Pokerbandits.ca had offered information on one of its message boards how American citizens could get around the UIGEA. The step-by-step guide suggested Americans could use Canadian mailing addresses and IP masking technology to sign up for Internet gambling accounts. Casino City was unable to contact Khan, and e-mails and phone calls to "Raven Corp," which published a press release announcing pokerbandits.ca's guide to getting around the UIGEA in January, were unanswered. *********** __________________ eMail ICQ: 32862272

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gigi Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 691	And by the way...what a brilliant plan..... think about how many 1way links that domain got today on webmaster boards.....in a couple of days the content is replaced with a gambling portal and will kick ass in google .....brilliant I tell ya.... __________________ eMail ICQ: 32862272