i just password protected it recently

I just bought a new puter that had this installed and it monitors my wireless network and a bunch of other stuff - freaking great stuff so far. I'm happy the guy who originally ordered the software paid for it till the year 2010!

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i could also light my kitchen on fire to test my smoke detectors, but i like doing things the easiest way possible.

I do, because if other are using it, it will slow down my connection.

You aren't suggesting that you only protect the router and not the actual workstations, are you?

I'm too lazy to read the entire ruling, but does it apply to all the US or strictly Oklahoma? Also, regardless of what the law may say, your ISP may think differently. For example, I'm sure ISPs in OK can still cut off your service (without legal action) if it's used against their terms (ie. spam, bandwidth abuse, file sharing, etc).

Also, the ruling appears to apply to copyright violation. I'd be surprised if the same ruling would be upheld when the crime is something decidedly more serious like CP or death threats. Imagine if the courts ruled that if someone used your open internet connection to commit serious crimes such as propagation of CP, that you couldn't be held responsible. OK would quickly become a hot bed of CP distribution.

I say almost because a lot of the same arguments apply. If you left your FTP server open, you'd be subject to people using your bandwidth, slowing down your sites and you'd be open to liability for what ends up on your server.

Forget any other argument. Even if my connection was uncapped and I had zero liability for what my connection was used for, I'd still lock it down. I'm the one paying for it. Why would I let anyone else use it for free? I don't let strangers nap in my bed, eat my food, watch my TV or take a shower when I'm not home. Why would I let someone use my internet connection?

no and never, i also have written my atm's secret key on the side of my car

It is a federal court ruling, published.


That is where reading the entire ruling comes into play

Because you have to pay to replace the food and water. Unless you have caps, this would not be the case if you let your neighbor use your Internet connection.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I am not going to mention names, but I was talking to a pretty well known company owner at the XBiz Show the other day. He was talking about how he could not remember the pin codes to all his bank cards, so had a list of them that he carried in his wallet.

Tell him to do what I do and have them all changed to one number he *can* remember.

Yep. 128Bit bish... :) I do it because I don't want everyone and their mother accessing my shit.

I told him that is what I do. May not be the most secure idea, but a lot more secure than carrying them around in his wallet.

If the ruling is federal and applies to anything, then your argument stands, but only in the US. Still, I'd love to see the ruling tested when a pedophile distributes a few terabytes of CP from his home and then simply claims it wasn't him. And, liable or not, how on earth would you feel if your open network was used to distribute CP?

I don't pay for my water consumption. I still don't want a stranger taking a dump in my toilet. I also don't want my neighbour sleeping in my bed when I'm not home.

ummm, simply saying "it wasn't me" probably wouldn't get you far.

There is some interesting info on a similar scenario on http://tor.eff.org

You have to dig around but its a similar cencept - letting someone else use your conection and how you stand if they misuse it.

I live in an apartment, and I used to leave my router open so that neighbors could use the webz from time to time, but I noticed one of them was using it too much, and they were lagging me from time to time, and since I download and upload shit a lot it got to be an annoyance so I put a password on my connection.

Because i've seen people parking their car around the houses using the connection. All the people used to not have security on around me. That was until I started noticing people just chilling in their parked cars using the wi-fi. Just a bit strange. locked that shit after you go to take out the trash and you see the glow screens from people in their cars using your wi fi or your neighbors wifi.

Yes I do password protect mine so that "unwanted" people cannot use it.. That being said I also have access to a couple of my neighbors routers and they have it to mine when needed since we are on different types of services in case one of us goes down.. Its not something we planned but its worked out well for us in the past. The "community internet access" idea is a great one but there are still some people who I might not want to slow me down or have the possibility to get into my system.

Which brings up another issue . . . does your town offer citywide wifi? If so, do you use it?

yes......

:1orglaugh


I have a password on mine yes. Too many neighbours!

No it does not.. Would be nice if it did so that I could get on anyplace at anytime (without an aircard). It would depend on the speed and dependablity on it before I could decide if I would use it as my primary.

I use my neighbours, he has a bigger pipe.. hehe

answer: YES!
reason: i don't like ppl sniffing on my network nor do i like ppl surfing over my bandwidth
extra reason: i like to be a hardass tech :P

course

WPA passwords and more - Im lookin at 8 different wifi points right now already, imagine if theyd surf on our bw and snoop on login details

no thanks

Well bad news is no matter even if your machine is password protected both with the machine password and the wireless internet password there is tool that will allow anyone to get your password in secs basically works by taking a memory and dumping it in a file and having all the words searched. Bad news is even when u have passwords they resides in memory until u shutdown and then once u start up again it goes back to ur memory. Also the thing with recycling bin is if u delete it still can be recovered form the computer in fact even if u format only 10 percent of data is gone so best way to hide thing sis to use shredder on recycling bin on ur pc and a hd wipe tools when wanting to reformat.

My wireless connection spans 10 miles. You bet I protect it.

I also have brute force protection etc to stop would be trespassers.

once again no metter wut protection you have there is always ppl who can get past it

Yet more deep thoughts by GotWebHost. :thumbsup

i protect everything i can .. when i am online

I'd rather not have the police show up on my doorstep accusing me of d/ling CP or something and have to explain my way out of it.

"I don't secure my router so it wasn't me, I swear!"

but in the end most of the ppl around us are dumbfounded when it comes to computer networking and what not so a basic password is good enough to keep ppl out.

no shit everyone knows that - but 0.000000001% knows how to get the dump and search and get the connection

and your sigs too big

Yes, ours is protected.

I love how you only reply to things you can argue and ignore everything else. :thumbsup

It was the only thing you said worth commenting on

yea I password protect. I dont want to share my bandwidth

Mine is encrypted