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  • Paul Markham
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    • Jun 2001
    • 52942

    #1

    Why did so few sites not do this?

    About 9 months ago we opened the site so the surfer could see what he was buying. http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/memb...ll=1&orderby=7

    The response in sign ups was fantastic. The same traffic stated to produce better ratios. There are many other obvious benefits, generates customer trust, bookmarkers, affiliates see what the site has, see what's best to promote, targeting a particular girl or sub niche like "Blonde Teens" or "iPod Porn videos" more for search engine spiders to crawl over, ever changing site, etc.

    So why did so few sites do the same?



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  • Chio
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    • Oct 2002
    • 8002

    #2


    Even Phil thinks you are lame.

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    • LiveDose
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      • Feb 2002
      • 25792

      #3
      Originally posted by Chio


      Even Phil thinks you are lame.


      Stop man that's the second time I spit beer all over my keyboard....


      hahaha

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      • rowan
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        • Mar 2002
        • 17393

        #4
        Am I missing something or did you just link an updates page?

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        • Paul Markham
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          • Jun 2001
          • 52942

          #5
          Originally posted by Chio


          Even Phil thinks you are lame.
          So would you say it's a backward move to do this on your site or sites you send traffic to?

          Why is that?



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          • Paul Markham
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            • Jun 2001
            • 52942

            #6
            Originally posted by rowan
            Am I missing something or did you just link an updates page?
            No that's the members area, just all the links to content are disabled.



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            • DeadFidel
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              • Jul 2003
              • 6764

              #7
              I think that's pretty good service. With the competition being what it is, steps like that will profit.

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              • DeadFidel
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2003
                • 6764

                #8
                I've done the "Peek inside Anytime" button with screen shots of actual member area pages..got nice ratios.

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                • rowan
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 17393

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                  No that's the members area, just all the links to content are disabled.
                  Yeah, so it's an updates page.

                  BTW, if I were you I'd change the copyright to extend to the current year... showing 2004 makes the site seem a little stale. Just MHO.

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                  • Chio
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                    • Oct 2002
                    • 8002

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rowan
                    Yeah, so it's an updates page.

                    BTW, if I were you I'd change the copyright to extend to the current year... showing 2004 makes the site seem a little stale. Just MHO.
                    He doesn't want to mess with it. The magic join links may break.

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                    • DarkJedi
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                      • Feb 2001
                      • 28301

                      #11

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                      • cardinalvices
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                        • Dec 2006
                        • 2084

                        #12
                        Paul why is it you have so many haters? Or its just GFY and sigwhores?

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                        • reynold
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                          • Oct 2002
                          • 51271

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Chio


                          Even Phil thinks you are lame.
                          THat's a funky fro.

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                          • Agent 488
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                            • Feb 2006
                            • 22511

                            #14
                            ignore these bitches paul. you seem like a nice guy. lots of baa-baa around here.

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                            • Chio
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                              • Oct 2002
                              • 8002

                              #15
                              Originally posted by cardinalvices
                              Paul why is it you have so many haters? Or its just GFY and sigwhores?
                              I think this thread may help you: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...gic+join+links

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                              • DarkJedi
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                                • Feb 2001
                                • 28301

                                #16
                                Everything about that guy is fake.

                                His name isn't even Paul you morons.

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                                • Paul Markham
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                                  • Jun 2001
                                  • 52942

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by rowan
                                  Yeah, so it's an updates page.

                                  BTW, if I were you I'd change the copyright to extend to the current year... showing 2004 makes the site seem a little stale. Just MHO.
                                  Guess you did not look very close.

                                  Go read the other thread about understanding the product you sell. The surfer will be looking at the tiny writing at the bottom instead of the big

                                  Added: TODAY and

                                  Added: 12/21/2006
                                  Added: 01/28/2007
                                  Added: 02/05/2007
                                  Added: 02/19/2006
                                  Added: 12/14/2006

                                  Or hitting this link.

                                  http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/memb...l=1&;orderby=3

                                  No he's reading the tiny copyright notice at the bottom and deciding whether he should spend $30.



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                                  • JOP
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                                    • Apr 2001
                                    • 931

                                    #18
                                    You ask: "Why did so few sites not do this?" but you mean the opposite. Also it´s getting a bit old. Maybe you need to find a new sales pitch and you´ll get more love around here...
                                    JOP

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                                    • Roald
                                      SecretFriends.com
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 27910

                                      #19
                                      The main problem is why others don't do this is cause they don't have magic join links


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                                      • Chio
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                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 8002

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                        Guess you did not look very close.

                                        Go read the other thread about understanding the product you sell. The surfer will be looking at the tiny writing at the bottom instead of the big

                                        SPAM SPAM RETARD IN ACTION SPAM SPAM

                                        No he's reading the tiny copyright notice at the bottom and deciding whether he should spend $30.
                                        Originally posted by Theo The Theologian
                                        Not only do you spam but you ask a question, then disagree with nearly every valid response simply because it conflicts with the answer you were *trying* to lead people to in the first place.
                                        Theo's got you pegged.

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                                        • Agent 488
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                                          • Feb 2006
                                          • 22511

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                          Everything about that guy is fake.

                                          His name isn't even Paul you morons.
                                          dude dont tell me steve lightspeed's last name isn't lightspeed!

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                                          • Paul Markham
                                            Too old to care
                                            • Jun 2001
                                            • 52942

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by cardinalvices
                                            Paul why is it you have so many haters? Or its just GFY and sigwhores?
                                            Did you notice that none of the haters can come up with any reason to knock the idea. So being GFY they knock me instead.

                                            And point to me losing sales because a surfer is reading the smallest, least obvious and most irrelevant thing on the page.

                                            Haters, come up with why your site does not do this or why you do not want sponsors, you send traffic to, to do it. Other than you would lose sales if the surfer had a clue what you were selling him.

                                            Or just carry on bumping please.



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                                            • Roald
                                              SecretFriends.com
                                              • May 2001
                                              • 27910

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by cardinalvices
                                              Paul why is it you have so many haters? Or its just GFY and sigwhores?
                                              Its not just GFY, trust me


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                                              • Chio
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                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 8002

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by JOP
                                                You ask: "Why did so few sites not do this?" but you mean the opposite. Also it´s getting a bit old. Maybe you need to find a new sales pitch and you´ll get more love around here...
                                                Paul just had an epiphany of sorts and was so excited to post it. He's so cutting edge.

                                                Hey Paul my AVS sites from 1996 called and said they want their Member's area previews back.

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                                                • Agent 488
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                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                  • 22511

                                                  #25
                                                  paul should have bought more drinks for the sheep at the shows or run more post bot contests.

                                                  then he would be a top notch stand up guy!

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                                                  • Chio
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                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 8002

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                    Did you notice that none of the haters can come up with any reason to knock the idea.
                                                    Knock the idea! Are you mental? Members area previews for someone selling access to a website with content isn't exactly a novel or new idea because *you* just thought of it.

                                                    I wonder. Did you have something going with Al Gore when he invented the internet?
                                                    Last edited by Chio; 02-08-2007, 01:09 AM.

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                                                    • wdforty
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                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                      • 1824

                                                      #27
                                                      I'm confused here.. Why don't so few sites not don't do this?
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                                                      • DarkJedi
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                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                        • 28301

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by budsbabes
                                                        dude dont tell me steve lightspeed's last name isn't lightspeed!
                                                        At least his first name is Steve.

                                                        Paul Markham is Charly in real life.

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                                                        • Agent 488
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                                                          • Feb 2006
                                                          • 22511

                                                          #29
                                                          fuck it must be robot night tonight.

                                                          time to relax tonight with gustav le bon.

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                                                          • Agent 488
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                                                            • Feb 2006
                                                            • 22511

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                            At least his first name is Steve.

                                                            Paul Markham is Charly in real life.
                                                            point is?

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                                                            • Chio
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                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 8002

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by budsbabes
                                                              point is?
                                                              He made his point up a few posts. Something to do with Paul Markham being *so* fake his name's not even Paul Markham.

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                                                              • Agent 488
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                                                                • Feb 2006
                                                                • 22511

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Chio
                                                                He made his point up a few posts. Something to do with Paul Markham being *so* fake his name's not even Paul Markham.
                                                                and this is coming from a 'pirate'??

                                                                thanks for the late nite comedy laffs.

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                                                                • Chio
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                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 8002

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by budsbabes
                                                                  and this is coming from a 'pirate'??
                                                                  thanks for the late nite comedy laffs.


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                                                                  • en21
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    I like his hairstyle.. very funky :-)
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                                                                    • cardinalvices
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                                                                      • Dec 2006
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Yeah, but is it a fake that showing visitors your members area really improves the signup ratio?

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                                                                      • Agent 488
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                                                                        • Feb 2006
                                                                        • 22511

                                                                        #36
                                                                        ehh. bored with the herd. nothing personal. like watching cows rush for feed.

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                                                                        • Paul Markham
                                                                          Too old to care
                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                          • 52942

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by JOP
                                                                          You ask: "Why did so few sites not do this?" but you mean the opposite. Also it´s getting a bit old. Maybe you need to find a new sales pitch and you´ll get more love around here...
                                                                          If this industry was converting at a better ratio I would say we have the surfers trust and respect. But from what I heard ratios are not so great.

                                                                          Do I want ALL sites to do this? No fucking way, it would negate my edge.

                                                                          Do I want more sites doing this so the surfers who buy memberships expect it? Too FUCKING right I do. Because it would really cut into the sales of the site sites who dare not do it. And it would make my affiliates jobs even easier.

                                                                          Those who say sites do it are welcome to show us them.

                                                                          Any surfer who joins from this thread can email me and I will double his membership length for the same price.



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                                                                          • rotterdammer
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                                                                            • Feb 2006
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Good idea, but not original though!

                                                                            Why others are not doing this as well? Well, it could be you know the answer your self. Let me quote your sig on another forum:

                                                                            Originally posted by Paulus / Charly Markham
                                                                            What works for me works for me, what works for you works for you, what works for him, works for him. None of us are right and none of us are wrong.
                                                                            The problem is when we think what works for us will work for them.
                                                                            Thats the most common answer to your question, lol! What works for you doesnt need to work for a different paysite ;)

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                                                                            • georgeyw
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                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                              • 9865

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by budsbabes
                                                                              point is?
                                                                              Its because the way the code the sidebar.php files to work with categories, ect. They don't use the default coded options - so you will have to replace them
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                                                                              • he-fox
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                                                                                • Jun 2006
                                                                                • 2884

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by georgeyw
                                                                                Its because the way the code the sidebar.php files to work with categories, ect. They don't use the default coded options - so you will have to replace them

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                                                                                • VicD
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                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                  • 13245

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by rotterdammer
                                                                                  Good idea, but not original though!

                                                                                  Why others are not doing this as well? Well, it could be you know the answer your self. Let me quote your sig on another forum:



                                                                                  Thats the most common answer to your question, lol! What works for you doesnt need to work for a different paysite ;)

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                                                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                                                    Too old to care
                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                    • 52942

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Chio
                                                                                    Knock the idea! Are you mental? Members area previews for someone selling access to a website with content isn't exactly a novel or new idea because *you* just thought of it.

                                                                                    I wonder. Did you have something going with Al Gore when he invented the internet?
                                                                                    When did I say I thought of it or that it was unique or exclusive to me. In fact my text and title shows some others do use this idea.

                                                                                    Few means others are doing it.

                                                                                    We all know the answer, but why doesn't someone stand up and say it?

                                                                                    Most sites would lose sales if they followed this route.

                                                                                    Unless you're going to say they would gain sales and decided not to do it because of the BW charges. Can't think of another reason.

                                                                                    rotterdammer you are dead right, what works for me, and some others, would not work for a lot of people.



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                                                                                    • rotterdammer
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                                                                                      • Feb 2006
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                      rotterdammer you are dead right, what works for me, and some others, would not work for a lot of people.
                                                                                      And the other way around also! Dont forget that! There are many ways that lead to Rome!

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                                                                                      • HighSociety
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                                                                                        • Jun 2005
                                                                                        • 1786

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        well we tried it on our site about a month ago. Not because of Paul but someone from a review site said it would probably help if they saw how many videos they could download since real amateur sites normally did not have that many videos. So we just took the members video page and took the links off. On avg it went from 1:388 to 1:240. Not sure if it was from doing that because I found two very nice ways to get some very good traffic. Also We do not get enough traffic to come up with a good answer anyway.
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                                                                                        • Onixia
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Chio


                                                                                          Even Phil thinks you are lame.

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                                                                                          • sumphatpimp
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                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                            • 5235

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Why did so few sites not do this?

                                                                                            Language like that could only be understood or composed by only two people on the entire planet.
                                                                                            Paul Markham or George Bush.
                                                                                            Fuxored!
                                                                                            End of story.

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                                                                                            • Screaming
                                                                                              I can change this!!!!!
                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                              • 18972

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              why not do this..

                                                                                              spam your program on gfy yet again..

                                                                                              surely you can do it

                                                                                              you know.. all the spam in the world isnt going to change the fact that your program eats ass

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                                                                                              • CyberHustler
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                                                                                                • Feb 2006
                                                                                                • 28750

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Chio
                                                                                                that thread is a classic
                                                                                                “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                                                                                • Paul Markham
                                                                                                  Too old to care
                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                  • 52942

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by rotterdammer
                                                                                                  And the other way around also! Dont forget that! There are many ways that lead to Rome!
                                                                                                  So you're saying some sites convert better by not showing the surfer what he's getting.

                                                                                                  Want to explain why that is?

                                                                                                  Would that include any of the sites you promote?



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                                                                                                  • Screaming
                                                                                                    I can change this!!!!!
                                                                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                                                                    • 18972

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    care to explain why you dont add anything to the board besides your useless spam?

                                                                                                    before you put together this program of yours it was nothing but your content.

                                                                                                    now its nothing but PMT

                                                                                                    your a fuckin clown..

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