I have this camera and I LOVE it. No HD on tape but if you have a firestore then you don't need tape. No BS with dropped frames during capturing etc. I do most web shoots still on DV tho.

I have shot some stuff in DVCPro HD and OMG.. anyone even considering a Canon should really play with this puppy first. This camera blows all the pro consumer Sony's out of the water no doubt.

I made a thread when I was about to purchase this camera. Maybe Tony remembers?.. He seems to have a real interest in these things as well.

The DVX-100 is a great camera also. Which one do you have Tony the a or b?

Sebs

dvxuser.com is a great place and some of the samples people post are unreal.

Sebs

Thanks I'm already a DV info User ..been reading up on the Cam for the last hour. BY Barry did you mean Barry Green? He does seem to know his stuff when it comes to HD formats ..

My Client did mention that he had 4 firestores ... Again .. I don't know if this is the perfect set up for my shoots ...

I need to finnish up some Edits... I will run a few tests .. like shooting in HD, record on Mini to see what the final edited product looks like .. Agian we are talking final product to be for web use ...

I have the a wish I waited 3 minutes for the b to come out lol . I remember the thread, your my savior eveyone wants to beat me up on these threads lol

Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes Barry Green ,he wrote the bible for the dvx100/100a , he also wrote one for your camera on the panny site.Here they are giving new buyers a free 8 gig card and barrys book .
http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp...odel=AG-HVX200
Panny is real good on their promos ,with mine I got barrys book, magic bullet, a 9hr battery and 10 of their master minidv tapes. Little did I know the reason was they were coming out with the new one :(

Hey Seb ...

I've used the DVx100 for my Pornstar academey shoots .. Loved the color rendition of this pana ...

Have you shot in Mindv with the Hvx? Can you still use a DV naitive Edit suite ?

My client also has FCP Dual G5 sitting in a box in his office. I might be able ot convince him to let me use it .. that would defentlity save the day.

I thought about just shooting on HDPro tape stock, only thing is your looking at close to 50$ for a 40 min tape ... it can get pretty pricey

Your thoughts please ...

They can beat you all they want, when you're right you're right. Simple as that.

My buddy bought the A also, and a month later the B came out. He was ready to kick himself in the nuts over and over. Now that I let him play with the HVX he is doing everything he can in his power to get himself one.

I used to shoot with a Canon XL1s and loved it at the time, then I shot with my buddy's dvx and became a Panny guy, then when the HVX came out I just had to have one..

Let me know if you guys are ever in Vegas Tony, maybe we can shoot some BBW's together.. :thumbsup

Sebs

BTW Dvxuser.com Awesome sites .. with some great links

Thanks

The true HD is a dream to edit compared to HDV which has to be converted to an intermediate format for frame accurate editing.[/QUOTE]

Mike, that Panasonic is a great camera, and the ability to shoot true HD to the P2 cards is nice, but for porn purposes it's way overkill for almost every conceivable purpose or client. Most of us are compressing this footage to wmv or quicktime anyway for the end user, so no one is going to notice the difference, put their cock away and say, "hey, I really appreciate that 4:2:2 colorspace!"

And according to the article the Panny does shoot hdv (but not HD) to mini-DV tape.

By the way, editing HDV footage using an intermediate format like I do with Premiere Pro 1.5.1 and the Aspect HD plugin is actually quite easy compared to uncompressed HD. It captures and edits almost exactly like DV. The only pain in the ass is the fact that in my case I have to deinterlace every clip (shot with the FX-1) which takes a long time and then the rendering out to the finished format(s) like wmv or mov takes FOREVER compared to DV! Instead of 25 minutes to 35 minutes to output a 35 minute scene to say, a 640 x 480 wmv at 1500 Kb bitrate, a 1440 x 1080 16x9 wmv at 4300 Kb bitrate, now takes up to 10 hours to encode if you add a watermark to it even with my dual core pc!

MiniDv is perfect on this camera also. it is like having a DVX - 100 AND a HD cam. I am not sure what you mean by "HDPro tape stock".. the camera does NOT shoot anything HD on tape. Only straight to the P2 cards or a FireStore.

If your client is giving you a Panny HVX to use and he has a G5 just sitting in a box then he will only benefit if he lets you use it.

Sebs

You will be the first to know,it would be great to meet you.

Your very welcome:) Now on dvx go to the Red section and download a clip be prepared to be blown away. The files are way too big for porn but for film out would be amazing.

Mike, that Panasonic is a great camera, and the ability to shoot true HD to the P2 cards is nice, but for porn purposes it's way overkill for almost every conceivable purpose or client. Most of us are compressing this footage to wmv or quicktime anyway for the end user, so no one is going to notice the difference, put their cock away and say, "hey, I really appreciate that 4:2:2 colorspace!"

And according to the article the Panny does shoot hdv (but not HD) to mini-DV tape.

By the way, editing HDV footage using an intermediate format like I do with Premiere Pro 1.5.1 and the Aspect HD plugin is actually quite easy compared to uncompressed HD. It captures and edits almost exactly like DV. The only pain in the ass is the fact that in my case I have to deinterlace every clip (shot with the FX-1) which takes a long time and then the rendering out to the finished format(s) like wmv or mov takes FOREVER compared to DV! Instead of 25 minutes to 35 minutes to output a 35 minute scene to say, a 640 x 480 wmv at 1500 Kb bitrate, a 1440 x 1080 16x9 wmv at 4300 Kb bitrate, now takes up to 10 hours to encode if you add a watermark to it even with my dual core pc![/QUOTE]


Amen I thought I was the only one that went thru that ...

Three weeks ago I shot with the Z1U and yes it took 8 hours to capture, cut and render a 25 min piece!!!! To top it all off my client had to go out and buy the Cineform Codec just to view the F%$# thing !

Hense my reason for trying out different cameras.

I totally agree this camera would be over kill .. However the client in questionthat bought this gear, wants me shooting for DVD release and isn't conserned with web .. With that said, My main client base is Web.

My Bad I meant DVCpro

Mike, that Panasonic is a great camera, and the ability to shoot true HD to the P2 cards is nice, but for porn purposes it's way overkill for almost every conceivable purpose or client. Most of us are compressing this footage to wmv or quicktime anyway for the end user, so no one is going to notice the difference, put their cock away and say, "hey, I really appreciate that 4:2:2 colorspace!"

And according to the article the Panny does shoot hdv (but not HD) to mini-DV tape.

By the way, editing HDV footage using an intermediate format like I do with Premiere Pro 1.5.1 and the Aspect HD plugin is actually quite easy compared to uncompressed HD. It captures and edits almost exactly like DV. The only pain in the ass is the fact that in my case I have to deinterlace every clip (shot with the FX-1) which takes a long time and then the rendering out to the finished format(s) like wmv or mov takes FOREVER compared to DV! Instead of 25 minutes to 35 minutes to output a 35 minute scene to say, a 640 x 480 wmv at 1500 Kb bitrate, a 1440 x 1080 16x9 wmv at 4300 Kb bitrate, now takes up to 10 hours to encode if you add a watermark to it even with my dual core pc![/QUOTE]

Try exporting your final cut to Mpeg 2 Jim. I do that, then use sorenson to compress to my desired final. Mpeg 2 you can de interlace then also. I use adobe premiere pro 2.0 not sure if 1.5 to 2.0 had any differences, but thats been the fastest way for me. I rarely render any of my effects or transistions as I use ones normally I already know what they will look like, or I can get a good idea right from the timeline. Export to mpeg 2 is very quick too. Sorrenson is much faster than the adobe encoder too, and compresses better and gives a better final product. I normally edit and export and compress a full 60 minute tape within 4 hours encoding and all. Oh when I export the mpeg 2 I do it to the full size that way its very little compressing done by adobe encoder.

To clairify, When I'll be shooting for DVD release the Firestore and FCP will be used ... RIght now I'm trying to see if I still need an HDV camera for my web HDV clients

I read the article twice no where does it say the hvx200 shoots hdv,that was the big thing when it came out.Closer to the 100k camera but at the hdv price point:
Recording format:
The Sony FX1 and Z1 use HDV at 1080i. The JVC uses ProHD at 720p. ProHD is basically HDV, except with an extension to allow 24p recording. The Panasonic uses DVCPRO-HD. HDV is a brand new format, whereas DVCPRO-HD has been around for at least four years. ProHD is even newer than HDV.

:winkwink:

what are you nerds speaking about :(



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Yah .. Only for us purchases :mad:

Sticky, I should have been more precise above, I actually have a similar workflow and that was what I was describing. I export my edited movies from Premiere Pro to a full frame size Cineform AVI file which doesn't take that long like you said, similar to when I used to export my finished vids to DV AVI with standard def.

Then I use my aging version of Cleaner XL to batch encode overnight to wmvs or quicktime files, at different bitrates, both with and without .png watermarks if necessary (and deinterlacing as it goes like you said rather than doing it in the timeline in Premiere) and THAT is the step that takes forever. Ten hours for a single 1440 x 1080 4300 Kb bitrate wmv with a 3.0 Ghz dual core pc!

I just ordered the relatively new Cleaner 1.5 upgrade to see if it works any faster. Maybe it takes advantage of the modern dual processors. I hope! Otherwise I have to maybe download the Sorenson or Procoder trials to see if that will work faster as batch encoding apps.

Where are you not in the US?

Ya I have both Sorenson and procoder 2. Main reason for procoder 2 is it is able to convert .vob files to whatever I need. But if Sorenson was capable of that I would use just it. Though it tends to be a bit of a problem when batching files :( Btw Sorenson doesnt really take advantage of the duo core. It will use most of one side, but not much of the other. Right now Im doing a 4 minute clip that was a 1920x1080 mpeg 2 clip at 750mb and encoding it to flv @ 640x360 at 1600kbs and its taking about 7 minutes. Not bad.

He's in Vancouver area Iirc.

You made a funny!
 

Haha MaDalton your too funny sweetie!

Wow a friend!! hehe
 

Now that I see a photo of you VidViscious I remember you! Wow so cool so you are on Webdreams 2! That is so cool! I feel like I have someone to talk to now! Do you have icq? Email me your number if you do at angelique at angeliquexxx dot com? Thanks!

LOL .. Montreal Quebec .. some might even say Canada :1orglaugh

Have you tryed Deinterlacing before you render to Avi ?
That's what I do with my Dv Avi's, since my Clients pull screen caps from the finished Avi edit

For the $1,200+ savings, I would have a U.S. friend/client do the order and then have them ship it to you, or you can just go pick it up...

BTW, since some of you know Cleaner, are you able to do a double pass when creating .flv videos? I can only get a single pass, and then the application crashes. I still get output that works, but I would like to be able to do two passes and not have the software crash.

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Yeah Vid, to deinterlace in Premiere Pro the best way is to right click each clip in the timeline and select "always deinterlace", then hit enter to render. That process alone takes a few hours, maybe three or four hours for a 35 minute video.

Then the encoding to wmv in the third party app also takes many hours as I described above. Or lately I tried to combine the deinterlace step with the encoding. Either way it takes way too long!

Do you use the Mac version of Cleaner? I'm a pc guy, and I just purchased the Cleaner XL 1.5 upgrade that allows export to flash. When I receive it in a few days I will try it and let you know.

oops my bad hehe. I cant keep all that Canadia shit straight.. :disgust :winkwink: :1orglaugh

YAh I never use the right click .. when you export your file (ctrl + M) go in advance settings (sorry my adobe copy is in $#@$ french) under video and rendering .. chose De interlace .. that'll save you from right clicking everytime

I dont even see that as an option in 2.0 the right click and always deinterlace thing.

That's cus it's under feild options on the right click

I see it. Seems like an extra step since it does it on export.

I use Cleaner 6.5 for Mac...

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It is an extra step but, somehow I think the deinterlace looks better done that way. Maybe I am looking too closely and it is identical as doing it on export but I am getting bleary eyed from all the tests I am running so I will try again another day.

I hear that. Ill mess around with two clips and see. There is a setting Ive found before and cant now that eliminates the interlaced look in the timeline video monitor thingy. Its kind of weird for me sometimes it seems it auto deinterlaces the monitor, and other times I cant figure out how to get it to do what I want lol. Video work can be fickle. hehe.