Is $10k enough to start a profitable program? - GoFuckYourself.com

who · 02-06-2007, 03:38 PM

See subj.

What would be a basic lower limit on how much it would cost to start up a new program with a couple of new sites?

polish_aristocrat · 02-06-2007, 03:41 PM

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96ukssob · 02-06-2007, 03:42 PM

i dont think $10k, unless you plan on buying super saturated content. probably like $25k or so imo

BoyAlley · 02-06-2007, 03:42 PM

I assume we'd be talking about a program whose sites were all licensed content? If that's the case, sure why not.

DirtyProfits · 02-06-2007, 03:43 PM

double up to $20k, then maybe yes

who · 02-06-2007, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

I assume we'd be talking about a program whose sites were all licensed content? If that's the case, sure why not.

It'd have to be, wouldn't it.

Violetta · 02-06-2007, 03:45 PM

I started out with a bit less, but slowly builded it up spitting in every dime I made over the last 1,5-2 years and counting...

But it hasn't been very profitable because of that. Always need more content and design. Hosting and reps

expensive stuff

Fizzgig · 02-06-2007, 03:45 PM

I think I can honestly say:

who's asking?

seeric · 02-06-2007, 03:49 PM

750k minimum to do it right and make something worth pushing. IMHO.

Sveindt Beindt · 02-06-2007, 03:50 PM

Good luck

shahab6 · 02-06-2007, 03:51 PM

more than a enought

xNetworx · 02-06-2007, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

750k minimum to do it right and make something worth pushing. IMHO.

I would love to see the breakdown of this figure

who · 02-06-2007, 03:53 PM

So people are basically saying that yes, you can do it on $10k and turn a profit, however it will be just another one of these cheap, annoying, and shitty little programs. Hmm. 'Worth pushing'... From what perspective do you mean?

BlackCrayon · 02-06-2007, 04:02 PM

i very much doubt you could do something that great with 10k, if you are talking about an affiliate program and everything. im looking into starting a couple paysites myself but no affiliate program. hoping i can pull it off for about 30-40k.

edgeprod · 02-06-2007, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpporn

I would love to see the breakdown of this figure

$700,000 to edgeprod for consulting
$49,000 content
$1,000 beer

The plan:

1) Cut me the check
2) ???
3) Huge success, go buy your Ferrari

DamageX · 02-06-2007, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpporn

I would love to see the breakdown of this figure

Me too.

Nismo · 02-06-2007, 04:14 PM

$10k to build a paysite = Yes.
$10k to build a successful paysite = Hell no.

alredy1 · 02-06-2007, 04:15 PM

i think x4-5

JD · 02-06-2007, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX

Me too.

same.

I've got 800k that I can spend so let's hear the break down

Nicky · 02-06-2007, 04:21 PM

Ofcourse it can be done. It depends on how much work you put into it, maybe start with 1 paysite, have it on ccbill or verotel, get a few affiliates, push it hard with your own traffic and tweak lots to make it convert and retain(good and regular members area content updates). Expand as the profit grows. No job for a lazy man thats for sure but it can be done....

collegeboobies · 02-06-2007, 04:22 PM

Depends on who you are

nico-t · 02-06-2007, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod

$700,000 to edgeprod for consulting
$49,000 content
$1,000 beer

The plan:

1) Cut me the check
2) ???
3) Huge success, go buy your Ferrari

hahaha sounds like a solid plan

the alchemist · 02-06-2007, 04:29 PM

Sure it's enough... if you want to start a copy/paste program like 99% of the other ones out there with paysites and ad tools that doesn't make any sense with overexposed content and no updates whatsoever.

How many paysites are you looking to build? Are you going to use NATS? Do you shoot your own content? Do you have to hire people to do everything for you because you have no clue (like 99% of the other ones out there)... There's many factors that comes into play here but remember, money doesn't mean anything at all without work, efforts and brains.

crockett · 02-06-2007, 04:29 PM

I'd say sure you could build a paysite but not a profitable one. If you're in the US you automatically lose $750 to visa just to get started. I would say it could be done in 1 of two ways.

Number 1 you get a really good deal on content.

Number 2 you happen to be fucking your content.. Meaning she's your G/F or wife.

Then there is always number 3 but I wouldn't go down that road but you could partner up with the content.

Rochard · 02-06-2007, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod

$700,000 to edgeprod for consulting
$49,000 content
$1,000 beer

The plan:

1) Cut me the check
2) ???
3) Huge success, go buy your Ferrari

This sounds like a great plan!

vvq · 02-06-2007, 04:38 PM

take the 10k and outsource some designers. you'll make more submitting galleries than trying to launch a program with 10k.

EscortBiz · 02-06-2007, 04:38 PM

you will lose your 10k guaranteed

Nubiles · 02-06-2007, 04:43 PM

I would say $100k - $200k

sharp · 02-06-2007, 04:48 PM

I think you can do much more profitable things with $10k. Even if you were just simply buying tgp submitters or buying traffic I think you'd make more doing that than with a $10k start up program.

Sosa · 02-06-2007, 04:54 PM

going to take alot more then that

Doctor Dre · 02-06-2007, 04:58 PM

You are competing with programs that spend 10x more then that... per site...

billybathgate · 02-06-2007, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod

$700,000 to edgeprod for consulting

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triumph · 02-06-2007, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpporn

I would love to see the breakdown of this figure

me too! thats a decent sized number.

King of Queens · 02-06-2007, 05:34 PM

Flip your 10k several times in the niche
your going into.

Sure there are plenty of sites already
to work with.

Hone your marketing skills. Document
every thing.

Track how long it take you to double
your 10k. Then beat that record.

See whats in your control from the
marketing side that trigger the response
rate your looking for.

Once you've doubled your 10k several
times I would consider investing starting
your own paysite.

Do you know the name of your first pay
site? Get it out there now.

Get tons of niche traffic coming in with
out doing link exchanges or using traffic
trade scripts.

Who you'll benefit from it later.

Just keep in mind that quality content,
retaining customers cost and that's not
even the beginning.

Take your time, flip your start up cap &
do it right the first time.

Boobzooka · 02-06-2007, 07:02 PM

DareRing started with 3 videos I made for less than $2K. Even if I add the cost of the camera, the VISA fee, the vbulletin licence, help wanted ads, etc, that's still less than half your suggested budget. Yeah, it took time to develop, but our forum grew, we picked up some affiliates, I reinvested what we made into more games ... now we're shooting regularly and averaging $1K/day in signups. That's a hell of a ROI.

edgeprod · 02-06-2007, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

same.

I've got 800k that I can spend so let's hear the break down

"k" means thousand.

reynold · 02-06-2007, 08:55 PM

If you ALREADY have a big pool of converting traffic and your program is optimized for your traffic source, $10K should be enough.

JD · 02-06-2007, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod

"k" means thousand.

lol yeah i know

edgeprod · 02-06-2007, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

lol yeah i know

That was a joke .. say "haha"

minusonebit · 02-06-2007, 09:47 PM

I think plenty of people started themselves off with far less...

tony286 · 02-06-2007, 09:51 PM

program I dont think so, a profitable website it can be done

nekrom · 02-06-2007, 09:54 PM

$10k sure. If you use EU billing that saves you $750 off the bat, enough for a decent 1 page reality style episode tour, make your own join page from that.

Content I got a quote the other day exclusive niche for $600 per set, do that and some non-exclusive for filler.

Chuck in your server cost into the mix as well, unless you are already bringing that to the table. Then there is stats software unless u use a 3rd party default setup.

I would push the site yourself, dun worry about buggering about with affs. Go invite and let a few of your mates in and your laughing.

-N

edgeprod · 02-06-2007, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

This sounds like a great plan!

Sell it to playboy, and we split it.

Evil E · 02-06-2007, 10:05 PM

Can someone please enlighten me on the 750$ visa fee?

Martin · 02-06-2007, 10:30 PM

You can, don't listen to them. 1 paysite start with some dvd content in a niche and promote it yourself. You'll make your money back.

Martin · 02-06-2007, 10:31 PM

This is of course if you're a hard worker and can drive your own traffic.

Martin · 02-06-2007, 10:34 PM

Sorry I miss read the thread...

To start a program? Hell no. To start a paysite that you can push yourself, then build from that. Yes.

Peace.

edgeprod · 02-06-2007, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin

Sorry I miss read the thread...

uh huh.

reynold · 02-06-2007, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

You are competing with programs that spend 10x more then that... per site...

That's one way to look at it. Ufnortunately, if everyone was easily discouraged, new businesses and sites won't be built. It's all about pursuing one's passion and vision on a shoestring budget and ramping up.

To the threadstarter: Don't let negativity and self-doubt be barriers to your success... prove the doubters WRONG, buddy. You can do it!

Evil E · 02-06-2007, 10:47 PM

If someone can point me to the 750$ VISA fee information it would be greatly appreciated.

02-06-2007, 03:38 PM	#1
who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	Is $10k enough to start a profitable program? See subj. What would be a basic lower limit on how much it would cost to start up a new program with a couple of new sites?

02-06-2007, 03:41 PM	#2
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02-06-2007, 03:42 PM	#3
96ukssob So Fucking Banananananas Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: If I was in your ass you'd know it Posts: 12,991	i dont think $10k, unless you plan on buying super saturated content. probably like $25k or so imo __________________ Email: Clicky on Me

02-06-2007, 03:45 PM	#7
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	I started out with a bit less, but slowly builded it up spitting in every dime I made over the last 1,5-2 years and counting... But it hasn't been very profitable because of that. Always need more content and design. Hosting and reps expensive stuff __________________ M&A Queen Last edited by Violetta; 02-06-2007 at 03:47 PM..

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Fizzgig Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: In Your Dreams Posts: 9,649	I think I can honestly say: who's asking? __________________ ---'-,-{@ Sassy Grrrl @}-'-,---

02-06-2007, 03:42 PM	#4
BoyAlley So Fucking Gay Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,714	I assume we'd be talking about a program whose sites were all licensed content? If that's the case, sure why not.

02-06-2007, 03:43 PM	#5
DirtyProfits Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,885	double up to $20k, then maybe yes

02-06-2007, 03:49 PM	#9
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	750k minimum to do it right and make something worth pushing. IMHO.

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02-06-2007, 03:53 PM	#13
who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	So people are basically saying that yes, you can do it on $10k and turn a profit, however it will be just another one of these cheap, annoying, and shitty little programs. Hmm. 'Worth pushing'... From what perspective do you mean?

02-06-2007, 04:02 PM	#14
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	i very much doubt you could do something that great with 10k, if you are talking about an affiliate program and everything. im looking into starting a couple paysites myself but no affiliate program. hoping i can pull it off for about 30-40k. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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02-06-2007, 04:21 PM	#20
Nicky Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,070	Ofcourse it can be done. It depends on how much work you put into it, maybe start with 1 paysite, have it on ccbill or verotel, get a few affiliates, push it hard with your own traffic and tweak lots to make it convert and retain(good and regular members area content updates). Expand as the profit grows. No job for a lazy man thats for sure but it can be done.... __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

02-06-2007, 04:22 PM	#21
collegeboobies So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,644	Depends on who you are

02-06-2007, 04:29 PM	#23
the alchemist Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 3,271	Sure it's enough... if you want to start a copy/paste program like 99% of the other ones out there with paysites and ad tools that doesn't make any sense with overexposed content and no updates whatsoever. How many paysites are you looking to build? Are you going to use NATS? Do you shoot your own content? Do you have to hire people to do everything for you because you have no clue (like 99% of the other ones out there)... There's many factors that comes into play here but remember, money doesn't mean anything at all without work, efforts and brains. __________________ 264 349 400

02-06-2007, 04:29 PM	#24
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	I'd say sure you could build a paysite but not a profitable one. If you're in the US you automatically lose $750 to visa just to get started. I would say it could be done in 1 of two ways. Number 1 you get a really good deal on content. Number 2 you happen to be fucking your content.. Meaning she's your G/F or wife. Then there is always number 3 but I wouldn't go down that road but you could partner up with the content. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

02-06-2007, 04:38 PM	#26
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02-06-2007, 04:48 PM	#29
sharp Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,006	I think you can do much more profitable things with $10k. Even if you were just simply buying tgp submitters or buying traffic I think you'd make more doing that than with a $10k start up program.

02-06-2007, 04:54 PM	#30
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	going to take alot more then that

02-06-2007, 05:34 PM	#34
King of Queens Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia ICQ 276-218-214 Posts: 1,288	Flip your 10k several times in the niche your going into. Sure there are plenty of sites already to work with. Hone your marketing skills. Document every thing. Track how long it take you to double your 10k. Then beat that record. See whats in your control from the marketing side that trigger the response rate your looking for. Once you've doubled your 10k several times I would consider investing starting your own paysite. Do you know the name of your first pay site? Get it out there now. Get tons of niche traffic coming in with out doing link exchanges or using traffic trade scripts. Who you'll benefit from it later. Just keep in mind that quality content, retaining customers cost and that's not even the beginning. Take your time, flip your start up cap & do it right the first time. __________________ Emails = $3.50 each \| girls gone wild \| Big Booty \| Big Booty Videos

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02-06-2007, 08:55 PM	#37
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	If you ALREADY have a big pool of converting traffic and your program is optimized for your traffic source, $10K should be enough.

02-06-2007, 09:47 PM	#40
minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	I think plenty of people started themselves off with far less...

02-06-2007, 09:51 PM	#41
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	program I dont think so, a profitable website it can be done

02-06-2007, 09:54 PM	#42
nekrom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Australia/Asia Posts: 921	$10k sure. If you use EU billing that saves you $750 off the bat, enough for a decent 1 page reality style episode tour, make your own join page from that. Content I got a quote the other day exclusive niche for $600 per set, do that and some non-exclusive for filler. Chuck in your server cost into the mix as well, unless you are already bringing that to the table. Then there is stats software unless u use a 3rd party default setup. I would push the site yourself, dun worry about buggering about with affs. Go invite and let a few of your mates in and your laughing. -N __________________ Free Traffic

02-06-2007, 10:05 PM	#44
Evil E Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lazyness is a lifestyle Posts: 3,201	Can someone please enlighten me on the 750$ visa fee?

02-06-2007, 10:30 PM	#45
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	You can, don't listen to them. 1 paysite start with some dvd content in a niche and promote it yourself. You'll make your money back.

02-06-2007, 10:31 PM	#46
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	This is of course if you're a hard worker and can drive your own traffic.

02-06-2007, 10:34 PM	#47
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	Sorry I miss read the thread... To start a program? Hell no. To start a paysite that you can push yourself, then build from that. Yes. Peace.

02-06-2007, 10:47 PM	#50
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