Yeah, I'm coming in on thursday, gonna be a 10 hour flightfrom Amsterdam, plus a couple of hours from Copenhagen :(
Looking forward to seeing you guys :glugglug

Thats cause Letterman and Leno were both competing for carsons show and leno got it..

chicks driving around in a car picking up and fucking guys.

guys driving around in a bus picking up and fucking girls.

hmm.

Hey come on.

I cannot tell the difference between Pepsi and Coke.

But I sure can see the difference between Bitchmobile and Bangbus.

No big deal

Pipecrew, why don't you take your dumb negative ass back to the high school and get some education?

You are about the most negative person I have ever seen, it's no wonder you don't make any money.

As for the bangbus/bitchmobile comparisons, the last time I checked Sanchez was a guy, picking up girls. There is no guy in Bitchmobile, picking up girls.

As to the comments about ripping off site designs, that's interesting. We had 4 different people make the 5 sites, so no one copied anything. One's a MikeW, two are Zayne E, one is Fletch and one was done in house. And all are very good.

Last but not least, let's not forget the fact that there's always going to be competition.

Otherwise there would be one paysite, one pay per join sponsor, one partnership sponsor, one tgp, one link list, one avs site, since NO ONE COULD MAKE ANOTHER WITHOUT "STEALING" FROM SOMEONE ELSE.

Very Good then, I think we can send you around 100 signups per month, I will have my leader boneprone look at your site to approve it and we will add it to our list of sites to promote. Thank you very much, you make me very happy.

haha, if Boneprone is your leader you are in trouble ;)

And while I have your attention I guess I'll mention that we are serving lunch in our booth at Internext every day, and should have wireless internet access for you laptop users that want to take advantage of it.

I'm sure other people have served lunch in their booths before (as a matter of fact we have) and that someone's had wireless access available to webmasters who want it, but hey, we're doing it anyway...

;)

Is that the big difference I hardly Noticed? I guess it was only time for some moron company that was probably in the Red to have to come out with that idea....... bangbus gets more signups from typeins then all the copying sites alone....... I guess imitation is the best type of flattery, just in your case, you copied all there sites, soo sad...... As for me making no money and needing to go back to highschool I find that funny... I dont need to get in a pissing match with you because Frankly I'd win... Maybee Pimpdog was right, you are very unprofessional for your age, I will have long retired before I reach your age and wont be known as a laughing stock or a hasbeen

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Is there some tings that I should no ?? He has very many posts, so he is very big in porn no ?? We are going to make many dollars together I think. If he is a trouble starter I will try and stay out of it, I just want to make monies to come into usa!!! No more prison for me, me could not sit down for the first month I was there last time :(

Yeah I'm 33, you're maybe 18, you will definitely be retired before you reach my age, probably in prison I'd guess. Or dead on the side of the road after someone gets tired of your whiny ass bitching.

As for being in the red, of course we're broke, we live on credit.

I will retire by 25 trust me, I have one of those good qualities, not whining like you say, but Creativity! I have 13 years before I can compare myself to you, and I sure as well wont be piggy backing some company that gets off by blatent copying.

Blah blah blah blah, can I get you some cheese to go with that whine?
Oh wait, someone else served wine and cheese together, I guess I can't do that.

HAHAHA That was actually pretty funny. :)

I swear I remember reading that Ox just released a PPS program as well, will have to double check. But nonetheless, if a reality site is halfway decent, I would much rather have recurring.

And about the whole TV show copying theory... yeh, they do copy ideas a lot. But the copies never last. Who here seriously thinks the Gene Simmons reality show will take off? Come on!

Instead of getting all pissy about what everyone here is saying about your sites, why don't you listen and take note of it. Consider changing some things to make it better. YOU came here asking for opinions and help. Now you're getting it, DEAL with it instead of whining that nobody is kissing your ass like the lackeys at the office.

Somebody said "it's all about the money". Damn straight. Now tell everyone here why we should start sending you, a bunch of new reality sites, traffic instead of sending it to sites that are already branded and we know will convert/retain.

testify my young African brotha,testify

Sly, we've paid per join on trials since the last century lol, so if Ox starts paying per join I am going to tell them they cannot do that since they are copying us ;)

shawcutie -- Laura -- is still really new to this business, so you guys give her a break for a change. But the threads going now, so maybe if we can get mrthumbs in here and a few other people it'll beat Cheshires thread and Laura can win a dvd...

Last but not least, no one's making you send traffic. If you want to try the sites, then try them, if not, vote with your traffic.

SIC has paid per join as I said since 98 -- obviously we must not be too far in the red ;)

Yes, I know you have. :winkwink: That wasn't what I was getting at. Greg sounded like he was saying SIC has a jump up on Ox because you have PPS for the sites, maybe I understood wrong.

I don't remember anybody attacking shawcutie, I'll have to read through again. They were more attacking the sites. Come on Laura, get some tough skin hun! You know these guys are bitches...

Gotcha Sly :)

The new sites are in the same system as the old ones, they pay the exact same way.

There will be some novel promo material coming in the next two weeks, as we see what types of traffic are converting the best on these sites.

Just so Pipecrew understands what novel means, no one else will have had it before.

Ox is quite secure in their sites and their traffic I'm sure, and if they did start paying per join, we'd be happy to send them a nice chunk of our exit traffic, the same with several other programs that have vid sites.

Thanks for addressing some of the above-mentioned issues. So, some of these new sites are of a similar theme, but with a different twist, correct? I suppose it's like the "girls gone wild" videos. Other companies are producing and distributing similar types of videos under different names, and they can do so because "girls gone wild" holds copyright on the name only (as does oxcash for "bangbus"), but they don't own the concept of videos depicting real girls flashing in public. Neither does ox hold copyright for the <i>concept</i> of videos depicting people cruising in a vehicle looking for random sex partners, at least as far as I know.


But I can certainly see where some people would be raising eyebrows at these 5 new sites, because all 5 seem to be knock-offs of others. Not one, not a couple, but all five. That's pretty.... incredible, no? And, when bangbus came out, it was an original. There has to be other as yet unexplored *themes* for paysites that would be equally original? I know I have a few in mind, and the ideas are of course for sale :D

gary's new reality site looks pretty dope.

solid

Good questions CD, and I will be happy to address them for you --
Bitchmobile is a copy of nothing I know of, unless having sex in a car is now someone's exclusive property.

DeepOralGirls and DeepOralGuys have belonged to us all along -- they are popular feeds that MANY paysite owners use, we simply decided to add tours and build around them. If you have seen them before, it's because of that -- currently even the bios are the same as what is in the paysite feeds.

Now on to the rest of it -- you may or may not be aware that we also own FreshPhotos, and the rest of its parts -- bruce3x came to work for us in that division, and shawcutie works there as well -- selling content, not building sites or running a webmaster program btw.

Since we own video production studios and we already create backend products from there, it makes more than good sense that we use that Vancouver office to every possible advantage we can for SIC Cash. If that means we have a copy of every FP, FWC, PCI image and video in our members area, that is one way we take advantage of that office.

We are currently producing 4 more video sites, which are currently unique, though someone else could launch something similar tomorrow and then we'd be 'copying' on Sept 1 when we launch them.

Now, to clear the air before anyone says we are stealing peoples models, you will notice the same models in at least a couple of other peoples new sites. These are our models, our video shoots, and our post production.

Last but not least, there is the fact that content is limited by two things -- availability and profitability.

If I can produce a vid IN our studios, or IN a convenient and safe location, it makes PERFECT SENSE that I would do that and use it to make our resellers and ultimately us, more money.

IF I have to pay exhorbitant location fees, put my models or my videographers at risk from the law or worse, or spend so much money on production, I no longer have a profitable project. IF I don't have a profitable project, I am not interested.

I'll be copying that shortly. Gary didn't want to pay us to shoot that for him when he heard the price, so I'll be paying him back the favor shortly.

Damn right, i got a local homeless guy and gave him an old 8mm camera my dad gave me when i was a kid. He does good work as long as he's drunk.

I thought va2k was your friend.

Doesnt mean he's not a homeless drunk. Some of my best friends are homeless drunks.

If you backpedal any harder you're going to break your bicycle chain.

Excellent Kimmy. Thank you for shedding light on where sic is coming from on these new projects. I certainly jumped in with both feet when bangbus was launched, and made a tidy fortune if I may say so, timing is/was everything. But that fire has cooled off for me severely, so I find myself looking for a new winning main sponsor.

I'll look closely at your new stuff, and also the old stuff.

Like i could afford a bicycle. I should be so lucky. Maybe after i release my next site, BitchBus i'll be able to get one.

Yeah well maybe you can afford us for that one.

I dont know, you guys do things a little weird for me. That whole "professional quality" thing you got going on. Not sure if thats for me. Can you guys maybe dunk the tape in water before encoding it?

Sure, but we charge extra for that.

Ok, first hour sending traffic. So far so good.

http://www.detroithardcore.com/cp.jpg

Actually less than an hour I think.

But I bet its a trick. Now my ratio will shoot up to 1:7500

No doubt!

ROFL, if I knew who you were the ratio'd be the same and the payout would be 0.

Actually if I knew who you were you ass, I'd pay you more, just for that.

Sorry Sly_RJ

I wasn't making any pokes at ox in anyway or form... I regard them and their products highly... they had one of the first sites I actually wanted to join!!! I believe even pipecrew said.. imitating is the best form of flattery... but we were careful to add a new twist to each product...

one difference in our program is... we pay per signup.. I wanted to be sure everyone knew that... as it was a question from the beginning of the thread...

Thanks Lebret.. glad to see you're off to a great start...

peace

greg
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Bitchmobile looks great, i'll be sending some traffic for sure

rofl, you can tell Trevor he's got email. It was sent a couple hours ago maybe.