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02-01-2007, 05:17 PM | #1 |
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hey Mike South, are you going to...
Are you going to make an effort (a public effort that is) to get an official statement from anyone other than XBIZ and I? hmm...i wonder...
Whatever transpires from this point on will speak volumes about you. Btw, thanks for all the publicity. Priceless. |
02-01-2007, 05:19 PM | #2 |
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Wow, Helmy starting a DRAMAS thread. Soo hawt.
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02-01-2007, 05:21 PM | #4 |
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YARGH! I was below deck waxin' me carrot. What'd I miss?
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02-01-2007, 05:22 PM | #5 |
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I think this whole thing speaks volumes to you, until this thing got ugly you felt it was beneath you to answer the little people as your friend put it. When its the little people that read your magazine and buy tickets to your show. A little common courtesy was too much to ask.
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02-01-2007, 05:28 PM | #6 |
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Mike South has a way about him.
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It should definitely be an interesting discussion to sit in on next week
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02-01-2007, 05:38 PM | #9 |
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Do you really think the guy from ICM is going to tell truth? IFFOR which is the governing body, they havent been created yet and there is only one adult industry person on that. 1 out of 7 so how impoartant do you think we are to them , not very. They know we will all have to run out to buy them to protect our domains in the event it becomes law. This lets understand and work with them, what work with them, they think we are scumbags that have to be babysit and they know if it goes thru they have us by the balls.
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OK Alec why are you trying to bait me I have public statements from AV, The Free Speech Coalition, You.
I also have promises of support both up and down the ladder. Many of those people are swearing that ASACP has entered into an agreement with with ICMR to get 7-8 dollars kickback on every domain sold. pure speculation at this point as nobody has offered up solid proof yet, but it is on the record that ICMR tried this tactic with the FSC other than that as far as I know only a few other non industry voices are supportive and their support is waning. You wanna tell me whom else I should be asking...feel free.
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02-01-2007, 05:50 PM | #12 |
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If Helmy starts a drama thread, then he means business, and I personally would not want to be in Mike's shoe's.....
On a positive note, I can't wait till next week!!! Xbiz awards party and the pres suite party are going to F-ing rule!
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Here's what Paul Fishbein told me this afternoon, and I posted to another thread; perhaps this is of interest? See Below:
Today, 04:46 PM #14 davecummings Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 966 Just moments ago, I just asked Paul Fishbein for a comment about about .xxx, and here's what he said: "At the very beginning, some people pushed us toward the .xxx and I originally thought we would support it. But almost immediately, when we talked to people and realized the ramifications (censorship and other reasons), we withdrew any support. We want what's best for the industry and our customers and clearly .xxx is not." |
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Kinda sums it up *lol* This supposed to be an attempted comeback and proof that Alec can actually speak for himself without his "spokesman"?? Sheesh... gimme a break - damned kids...
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For the Record i do NOT support it... at all
Plus I cant see it happening for many reasons Not like anyone cares what I think so continue |
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Not really it makes you look very untruthful. I had high respect for you, your work creating asacp and creating the paper of record. All this has changed that,makes me a little sad. I think you have a real agenda,especially when we were told you consider us the little people.
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That's a bold statement Roger The "industry spokesmen" took two days to word what you just wrote. Totally overwhelmed by the speed you can issue these statements man
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False. You may want to start looking for new 'trusted sources'. I hope I haven't disappointed you with this bit of information. |
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I dont think they will be able to force a world wide industy into .xxx. if anything it will just be another .TV |
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This thread is getting damned funny - the hypocrisy is beginning to seep thru the pores
I'm gotta start an organization for the religous conversion of "porn addicts" and another to protect the world's children from swamplife and hypocrites.
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Although I've been there since day one, I'm not "an employee" of XBIZ and Alec is not my "leader" he's my friend. I invest in him because I believe in his vision, drive and capability. If he asks me to do something like answer a question that he's too busy making money to deal with, then I'm more than happy to do that for him. He didn't "fail" he provided a clear and specific response that I posted for him. This whole "issue" is the same as a telemarketer being pissed off because when he called at dinner time to sell some aluminum siding, he got hung up on... Maybe let your people know, how humble you are. The reason you were asked was it is your show you invited the ICM to speak and its based on it happening. We both know we are not going to get a straight answer,so it leads many to believe you want this to happen. Also if you want to have the paper of record and the show of record you have a responsibility to answer questions. If you dont like it find something else to do. |
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no its based on it happening and once again iffor makes the rules 7 people only one from the adult industry.Not much to talk about, what is he going to say if it happens I got you all by the balls? I think not and webmasters at shows traditionally lose their balls at the door. So its easy to have a softball seminar
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Don't you think they were more than silly thanks to you inability to respond Alec?? Now you instigate this thread attempting to do exactly what your "spokesman" attempted to decry others for - drama.
As already said - kid behavior.
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HELMY, I am trying to stay out of all this because I feel it will get settled in time, but I am just curious as to why you won't say yes or no whether you support .xxx?
it is like a 21 year old virgin that can't lie, ask him if he is a virgin, if he says no then he obviously isn't, but if he doesn't say anything and then tried to deflect attention, then we obviously know the answer there it is really seriously beginning to start looking like you support .xxx, and if that is the case, can you let me know where the unsubscribe form is for xbiz world? |
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reminder: emails should be sent to [email protected] (they need to be confirmed by clicking a link from the auto-responder) this applies to anyone who says how anti-.xxx he is, but hasnt taken their time email ICANN yet
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nevermind, I see his response, I missed it in that thread
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Theres still an issue...Im awaiting a return email on it but it doesn't involve you quite as much
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it was how he did it , first having someone else do it and very vaguely at that ,then he came and it was vague .The third try was a straight answer, that seems fishy. If he was against and he invited them to a show, people pay him to go to. What effort would of it took to say no I dont support it .Instead of playing games,
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I certainly respect that. But in our opinion open dialogue is better than no dialogue at all - I hope you respect that. |
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What you think of me doesn't matter at this point. So tell me, these sources of yours, did they only bring up XBIZ and myself? if so, what's their motive!? |
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He has a low opinion of us and it shows in their plan to ICANN, we are scumbags that need to be kept in line..He hasnt given a straight answer yet, all of a sudden he is going to be forth coming,its all been trust us. If it gets passed he has us by the balls there really isnt much to talk about.Thats why the people who are looking longterm want beat this,nothing good will come from except some people will line their pockets with quick cash. I also think you inviting him to speak like its going to happen sends a message to ICANN we accept this and most dont. I have no doubt you have a agenda and you are hurting not helping the industry that has supported you. |
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