HELMY

Are you going to make an effort (a public effort that is) to get an official statement from anyone other than XBIZ and I? hmm...i wonder...

Whatever transpires from this point on will speak volumes about you.

Btw, thanks for all the publicity. Priceless.

BoyAlley

Wow, Helmy starting a DRAMAS thread. Soo hawt.

gimo33

*edited* moving on...

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YARGH! I was below deck waxin' me carrot. What'd I miss?

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tony286

I think this whole thing speaks volumes to you, until this thing got ugly you felt it was beneath you to answer the little people as your friend put it. When its the little people that read your magazine and buy tickets to your show. A little common courtesy was too much to ask.

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Mike South has a way about him.

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tony286

Do you really think the guy from ICM is going to tell truth? IFFOR which is the governing body, they havent been created yet and there is only one adult industry person on that. 1 out of 7 so how impoartant do you think we are to them , not very. They know we will all have to run out to buy them to protect our domains in the event it becomes law. This lets understand and work with them, what work with them, they think we are scumbags that have to be babysit and they know if it goes thru they have us by the balls.

mikesouth

OK Alec why are you trying to bait me I have public statements from AV, The Free Speech Coalition, You.

I also have promises of support both up and down the ladder.

Many of those people are swearing that ASACP has entered into an agreement with with ICMR to get 7-8 dollars kickback on every domain sold.

pure speculation at this point as nobody has offered up solid proof yet, but it is on the record that ICMR tried this tactic with the FSC

other than that as far as I know only a few other non industry voices are supportive and their support is waning.

You wanna tell me whom else I should be asking...feel free.

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Hollywood Horwitz

If Helmy starts a drama thread, then he means business, and I personally would not want to be in Mike's shoe's.....

On a positive note, I can't wait till next week!!! Xbiz awards party and the pres suite party are going to F-ing rule!

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davecummings

Here's what Paul Fishbein told me this afternoon, and I posted to another thread; perhaps this is of interest? See Below:



Today, 04:46 PM #14
davecummings
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: San Diego
Posts: 966 Just moments ago, I just asked Paul Fishbein for a comment about about .xxx, and here's what he said:

"At the very beginning, some people pushed us toward the .xxx and I originally thought we would support it. But almost immediately, when we talked to people and realized the ramifications (censorship and other reasons), we withdrew any support. We want what's best for the industry and our customers and clearly .xxx is not."

Webby

Kinda sums it up *lol*

This supposed to be an attempted comeback and proof that Alec can actually speak for himself without his "spokesman"?? Sheesh... gimme a break - damned kids...

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tony286

I know why didnt he just come on and say no I dont support it lol

Webby

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RogerV

For the Record i do NOT support it... at all

Plus I cant see it happening for many reasons

Not like anyone cares what I think so continue

tony286

Thanks Roger we do care

HELMY

Free publicity - it really is effective - come check out our show next week!

tony286

Not really it makes you look very untruthful. I had high respect for you, your work creating asacp and creating the paper of record. All this has changed that,makes me a little sad. I think you have a real agenda,especially when we were told you consider us the little people.

Webby

That's a bold statement Roger The "industry spokesmen" took two days to word what you just wrote. Totally overwhelmed by the speed you can issue these statements man

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HELMY

False.

You may want to start looking for new 'trusted sources'.

I hope I haven't disappointed you with this bit of information.

tony286

Roger must not be as busy as him ,I mean that took a whole 10 secs to post. lol

HELMY

If I recall correctly a few years back I was a little person myself - you can rest assured that I'm as humble as they get in this business - just ask around.

HELMY

Once things get silly I step in.

HELMY

Wow good job on the FSC!

Not sure what AV is.

Is that all you got so far?

RogerV

Honestly i dont think Helmy supports it. I believe he's just trying to create an open platform for all voices and sides of the adult industry.

I dont think they will be able to force a world wide industy into .xxx. if anything it will just be another .TV

Webby

This thread is getting damned funny - the hypocrisy is beginning to seep thru the pores

I'm gotta start an organization for the religous conversion of "porn addicts" and another to protect the world's children from swamplife and hypocrites.

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tony286

Well Your friend Stephen said he is your voice your Bush and he is Tony Snow and the president doesnt have time to deal with idiots and then there was this gem:
Although I've been there since day one, I'm not "an employee" of XBIZ and Alec is not my "leader" he's my friend. I invest in him because I believe in his vision, drive and capability. If he asks me to do something like answer a question that he's too busy making money to deal with, then I'm more than happy to do that for him.

He didn't "fail" he provided a clear and specific response that I posted for him.

This whole "issue" is the same as a telemarketer being pissed off because when he called at dinner time to sell some aluminum siding, he got hung up on...
Maybe let your people know, how humble you are.

The reason you were asked was it is your show you invited the ICM to speak and its based on it happening. We both know we are not going to get a straight answer,so it leads many to believe you want this to happen.
Also if you want to have the paper of record and the show of record you have a responsibility to answer questions. If you dont like it find something else to do.

tony286

no its based on it happening and once again iffor makes the rules 7 people only one from the adult industry.Not much to talk about, what is he going to say if it happens I got you all by the balls? I think not and webmasters at shows traditionally lose their balls at the door. So its easy to have a softball seminar

Webby

Don't you think they were more than silly thanks to you inability to respond Alec?? Now you instigate this thread attempting to do exactly what your "spokesman" attempted to decry others for - drama.

As already said - kid behavior.

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Jace

HELMY, I am trying to stay out of all this because I feel it will get settled in time, but I am just curious as to why you won't say yes or no whether you support .xxx?

it is like a 21 year old virgin that can't lie, ask him if he is a virgin, if he says no then he obviously isn't, but if he doesn't say anything and then tried to deflect attention, then we obviously know the answer there

it is really seriously beginning to start looking like you support .xxx, and if that is the case, can you let me know where the unsubscribe form is for xbiz world?

Jace

actually, things were dying down a bit until you got silly and started this thread

polish_aristocrat

not sure if you already did it, but since you seem to care so much about .xxx, then you could perhaps voice your opinion to ICANN as well?

reminder: emails should be sent to [email protected] (they need to be confirmed by clicking a link from the auto-responder)

this applies to anyone who says how anti-.xxx he is, but hasnt taken their time email ICANN yet

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baddog

Pay closer attention, he has stated several times that he doesn't support it.

HELMY

This question was answered already in a previous thread:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=701468

baddog

I love all the people that say they don't support it, yet don't bother taking a few minutes to compose an email.

Anyone that needs help constructing an intelligent comment can approach me, and I will assist you.

Jace

wierd, I haven't seen him come out personally against it...I have seen stephen speak on his behalf though and make a general statement for xbiz

seeric

tell the truth? what truth is there to tell. all he needs to do is just fess up and say he is doing this for money. this guy cares less about little kids than an abusive dead beat gone MIA dad.

HELMY

seeric

people still have until the 5th of feb.

i think.

thats what they were tossing around earlier.

Jace

nevermind, I see his response, I missed it in that thread

ug...too many threads to keep up with, back to work

Jace

yes, they do, and I have a document on my desktop that has been worked on for a while now, I just need to finish it up and submit it

mikesouth

I actually hope they are wrong. Time will tell I suppose. Glad you finally stood up and took some responsibility.

Theres still an issue...Im awaiting a return email on it but it doesn't involve you quite as much

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tony286

it was how he did it , first having someone else do it and very vaguely at that ,then he came and it was vague .The third try was a straight answer, that seems fishy. If he was against and he invited them to a show, people pay him to go to. What effort would of it took to say no I dont support it .Instead of playing games,

tony286

you really think he is going to say that? lol

HELMY

I certainly respect that.

But in our opinion open dialogue is better than no dialogue at all - I hope you respect that.

baddog

It is the end of Feb 1, how much procrastination do you need?

HELMY

What you think of me doesn't matter at this point.

So tell me, these sources of yours, did they only bring up XBIZ and myself? if so, what's their motive!?

tony286

Once again it wont be open, only 1 out of 7 on the rule making board. Why is that so hard to understand?
He has a low opinion of us and it shows in their plan to ICANN, we are scumbags that need to be kept in line..He hasnt given a straight answer yet, all of a sudden he is going to be forth coming,its all been trust us. If it gets passed he has us by the balls there really isnt much to talk about.Thats why the people who are looking longterm want beat this,nothing good will come from except some people will line their pockets with quick cash. I also think you inviting him to speak like its going to happen sends a message to ICANN we accept this and most dont.
I have no doubt you have a agenda and you are hurting not helping the industry that has supported you.