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Common Sense 01-31-2007 10:00 PM

GFY, Im ashamed with you. How did you guys not see this coming from the first time he started posting about his medical problems on the message board? Start with the illness, give updates, then come back and beg for money.

You live in Canada and even if you arent a citizen you can get insurance. Even if you cant, youve had how many years to get yourself covered? Time to grow up sparky and stop begging for money from people who dont know you. Get a real job like everyone else in the fucking world.

AllStar 01-31-2007 10:19 PM

How are they gonna collect on the bills? you need a Social Security Number for them to take this to a collection agency?

And if you have a SSN then you are eligible for medical.
I am sorry but this doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me??

Dagwolf 01-31-2007 10:43 PM

Quote:

http://www.healthservices.gov.bc.ca/...gible.html#who

Who is Eligible?

An individual must be a resident of B.C. in order to qualify for medical coverage under MSP. A resident is a person who meets all of the following conditions:

must be a citizen of Canada or be lawfully admitted to Canada for permanent residence;
must make his or her home in B.C.;
must be physically present in B.C. at least 6 months in a calendar year; and
dependents of MSP beneficiaries are eligible for coverage if they are residents of B.C.
Certain other individuals, such as some holders of study and/or work permits issued under the federal Immigration and Refugee Protection Act are deemed to be residents, but tourists or visitors to B.C. do not qualify. If you are uncertain about your eligibility status, contact MSP for assistance.

I was admitted under a Minister's Permit, which is now known as a Temporary Resident Permit. It has to be renewed every 6 months. I do not have medical coverage. I cannot get medical coverage.

I know it's hard for Canadians to understand; even my wife doesn't really get it. I am entitled to EMERGENCY medical care at the hospital, for which I get a bill. I make every attempt to pay my bills.

Regular doctor visits and prescriptions don't fall under the category of emergency medical care. Apparently neither does opthalmology; I repeatedly requested an eye doctor while in intensive care but was never examined by one.

Dagwolf 01-31-2007 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyldworx (Post 11829801)
please be aware that all three of those temporary meds they have given you are for blood presure, so too many of them can throw you deeper into an anxious state. I would be getting more oppinions and shopping around, even asking someone if they will claim it for you. It might be wrong, but overall, you will live, and that is probably more right in the long run...

It looks like I'm going to live; the jury's still out on my kidneys. I need more tests done.

My big problem.. besides needing money to pay for medical care... is my vision. I'm trying to do something about it before it's gone.

AllStar 01-31-2007 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf (Post 11829971)
I was admitted under a Minister's Permit, which is now known as a Temporary Resident Permit. It has to be renewed every 6 months. I do not have medical coverage. I cannot get medical coverage.

I know it's hard for Canadians to understand; even my wife doesn't really get it. I am entitled to EMERGENCY medical care at the hospital, for which I get a bill. I make every attempt to pay my bills.

Regular doctor visits and prescriptions don't fall under the category of emergency medical care. Apparently neither does opthalmology; I repeatedly requested an eye doctor while in intensive care but was never examined by one.

that is bs...Certain other individuals, such as some holders of study and/or work permits issued under the federal Immigration and Refugee Protection Act are deemed to be residents

whether or not you renewed your permit or not you were admitted under a work permit, you legally entered Canada as a worker. Also as a worker you are legally entitled to Medical Services. It is the law. Period. You had the choice at the time of being there to get medical and didn't...
either way better call MSP and get it sorted right away.

Medical Services can be backdated. It is simple. If you backdate it you will responsible for the past premiums, there is no freeride in life. Thats the way it is.
Either way do you have SSN?

Dagwolf 01-31-2007 10:52 PM

I didn't enter canada as a worker. I did not get a work permit.

AllStar 01-31-2007 10:54 PM

Your wife???
You are married to a Canadian?
You are entitled to medical.

Dagwolf 01-31-2007 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllStar (Post 11830031)
Your wife???
You are married to a Canadian?
You are entitled to medical.

Do you work for B.C. Medical? How sure are you of what you're saying?

Will you pay my bills yourself if you're wrong?

BigDeanEvans 01-31-2007 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Common Sense (Post 11829804)
GFY, Im ashamed with you. How did you guys not see this coming from the first time he started posting about his medical problems on the message board? Start with the illness, give updates, then come back and beg for money.

You live in Canada and even if you arent a citizen you can get insurance. Even if you cant, youve had how many years to get yourself covered? Time to grow up sparky and stop begging for money from people who dont know you. Get a real job like everyone else in the fucking world.


haha no shit, i saw it coming too. this thread needs to be locked

nastynun 01-31-2007 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf (Post 11828748)
No kidding! I'll be selling pencils soon enough. That should be nice and stable.

Did you go see a ophthalmologist? If so what was the diagnosis?

Dagwolf 01-31-2007 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans (Post 11830056)
haha no shit, i saw it coming too. this thread needs to be locked

And I saw the hate coming. What you guys don't realize is that a few twists of fate could land you in my shoes.

uno 01-31-2007 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans (Post 11828795)
I agree. How old are you Dagwolf? 41? c'mon. They need to ban these fucking donation threads or ban the people Soliciting people for money. If you can't cut it in adult, get out and get a real job.

By donating money, you're just hurting these people more than you're helping them.

Wasn't posting for TCG his job?

Dagwolf 01-31-2007 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nastynun (Post 11830070)
Did you go see a ophthalmologist? If so what was the diagnosis?


I have an opthalmology appointment for March 8th. Opthalmologists are apparently scarce around here.

AllStar 01-31-2007 11:04 PM

Are you married to a Canadian?

Dagwolf 01-31-2007 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllStar (Post 11830092)
Are you married to a Canadian?

Yes, now show me where it says you get free medical care if you're married to a Canadian no matter what your immigration status is. I would love to have medical coverage.

baddog 01-31-2007 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf (Post 11829412)
I think I can safely mention that she suffers from a great deal of social anxiety though.

Social anxiety? :helpme

BigDeanEvans 01-31-2007 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno (Post 11830085)
Wasn't posting for TCG his job?

if you're 40 somthing yrs old and your "job" (using that term loosely here) is posting on GFY, do the world a favor and off yourself

seriously pull it together and go get a job. If i was brokeand had kids i'd be shoveling dog shit 16 hours a day if i had to.

utter laziness

AllStar 01-31-2007 11:13 PM

Ok well if you are married to a Canadian then you can apply for permanent residency.

You should have done that a long time ago, like when you got married.
So once you do that you can then you can get medical. Either way you better call Victoria and find out the actual loophole is.
Either way the way I look at is if you paid your MSP or if they back date it, you will have paid or will owe 6k. Which is about the same as you bills.
So you have broken even.
Anyways you better call Victoria.
Do you have a SSN? or have you been working illegally in Canada? and not paying any income taxes either?

Dagwolf 01-31-2007 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11830123)
Social anxiety? :helpme

She doesnt' like me discussing it.

uno 01-31-2007 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf (Post 11830087)
I have an opthalmology appointment for March 8th. Opthalmologists are apparently scarce around here.

I have tickets to The Colbert Report on March 8. Good luck.

BigDeanEvans 01-31-2007 11:15 PM

Actually that sounded a bit harsh...Dagwolf, looks like you were in the same predicament a few yrs ago..now if people were to donate a couple thousand for you what is that really going to do? Once that dries up you'll be right back where you started.

baddog 01-31-2007 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf (Post 11830150)
She doesnt' like me discussing it.

understandable

spunkmister 01-31-2007 11:20 PM

ok so now if people bail you out with your bills what then? Apparantly you cant get a job since you are going blind and didn't renew your permit...your wife has issues with working outside of the home...ummm so I guess we shall see another thread in a months time saying you need help again.

Dagwolf 01-31-2007 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllStar (Post 11830147)
Ok well if you are married to a Canadian then you can apply for permanent residency.

You should have done that a long time ago, like when you got married.
So once you do that you can then you can get medical. Either way you better call Victoria and find out the actual loophole is.
Either way the way I look at is if you paid your MSP or if they back date it, you will have paid or will owe 6k. Which is about the same as you bills.
So you have broken even.
Anyways you better call Victoria.
Do you have a SSN? or have you been working illegally in Canada? and not paying any income taxes either?

So if I just throw $6k at it my problems are solved? Gee, thanks for the advice!

Holly 01-31-2007 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf (Post 11830018)
I didn't enter canada as a worker.

Ain't that the fucking truth.

Dagwolf 01-31-2007 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkmister (Post 11830185)
ok so now if people bail you out with your bills what then? Apparantly you cant get a job since you are going blind and didn't renew your permit...your wife has issues with working outside of the home...ummm so I guess we shall see another thread in a months time saying you need help again.

Did I ask you to bail me out with my bills?

I asked people to link to my site and buy ad space if they felt like it. No one is forcing you to do anything.

Fap 01-31-2007 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf (Post 11828627)
I'm not going down without a fight. :thumbsup

way to be man

Dagwolf 01-31-2007 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly (Post 11830214)
Ain't that the fucking truth.

Nice to see you too.

Holly 01-31-2007 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11830123)
Social anxiety? :helpme

translation: She can only leave the house to party with the hepatitis people or meet up with people at a bar. Not to get a job.

kaori 01-31-2007 11:34 PM

Yup - time for you to make a lifestyle change...
That being said, if you're really concerned about your eyes, go to the emergency room, and complain about your loss of site..
They will at least look at you - there's lots of social programs here to help..

once you're a permanent resident, you can even get completely subsidized health insurance... won't take you more than 6 months for permanent residency considering the amount of time you've lived her, your Canadian wife, etc...

you won't have to back-pay your health insurance - it'll be completely subsidized.. and even if you don't pay it, you'll still be eligible for treatment.. and welfare...

Dagwolf 01-31-2007 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly (Post 11830235)
translation: She can only leave the house to party with the hepatitis people or meet up with people at a bar. Not to get a job.

Yes, when she's drinking she can handle being in public. I'll just get her drunk and send her looking for a job. :thumbsup

Dagwolf 01-31-2007 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaori (Post 11830243)
Yup - time for you to make a lifestyle change...
That being said, if you're really concerned about your eyes, go to the emergency room, and complain about your loss of site..
They will at least look at you - there's lots of social programs here to help..

once you're a permanent resident, you can even get completely subsidized health insurance... won't take you more than 6 months for permanent residency considering the amount of time you've lived her, your Canadian wife, etc...

you won't have to back-pay your health insurance - it'll be completely subsidized.. and even if you don't pay it, you'll still be eligible for treatment.. and welfare...

I went to the emergency room about my loss of vision. They treated me for high blood pressure.

You can't become a permanent resident if they feel you'll be a burden on the healthcare system.

Do you people really think I haven't looked into this?

Holly 01-31-2007 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf (Post 11830226)
Nice to see you too.

Apparently you won't have to worry about that much longer, now will you?


It's truly inspiring that a blind man can still find the dedication to stay on the internet night and day, reading and writing print and making begging sites. It's almost like a Christmas miracle. A month late.

Holly 01-31-2007 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf (Post 11830253)
I'll just get her drunk and send her looking for a job. :thumbsup

So far, this is the only significant thing you've written in this thread.

L-Pink 01-31-2007 11:43 PM

???

Are you flying under the radar?

Not a citizen ... not a tax payer?

spunkmister 01-31-2007 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly (Post 11830273)
Apparently you won't have to worry about that much longer, now will you?


It's truly inspiring that a blind man can still find the dedication to stay on the internet night and day, reading and writing print and making begging sites. It's almost like a Christmas miracle. A month late.

I think I like you....want to marry me?

jeffrey 01-31-2007 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf (Post 11828938)
By the way, I'm not really illegal. I just haven't renewed my permit yet.
:Oh crap

LAZY!!
Sorry to say it, but you have no excuse, and yes that really does make you an illegal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 11829204)
I didn't read all of your other threads, but can't your wife legally work in Canada? As I understand it, if she was Canadian, it would not be difficult for you to become a citizen. This begs the questions then, that she is also not a Canadian citizen, which makes me wonder why you and your wife are in Canada in the first place?

I agree with this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf (Post 11829971)
I was admitted under a Minister's Permit, which is now known as a Temporary Resident Permit. It has to be renewed every 6 months. I do not have medical coverage. I cannot get medical coverage.

I know it's hard for Canadians to understand; even my wife doesn't really get it. I am entitled to EMERGENCY medical care at the hospital, for which I get a bill. I make every attempt to pay my bills.

A visitors visa is good for 6 months, then it can sometimes be renewed for 6 more months, which after that would mean you would have to go back to the states for at least 6 months.
You do not get any government assistance with this visa, as its more or less jsut alowing your to have an extended vacation.

Being that your married to a Canadian all it would have taken back in 2002 when you moved here to get permanent res and medical coverage, or even citizenship is 20 minutes of talking with an imigration lawyer, or sitting down and filling out a few forms that the immigration office will help you fill out.

Being that your now and illegal you could probably still get citizenship, but its going to be much harder, and I wouldnt be all that surprised if you were deported while everything was being settled.


I cant say I feel sorry for you, I mean your being lazy is the only reason you dont qualify for medical.
Instead of begging for money why dont you try and do something about it. I would have grabbed the yellow pages and called one of the immigration lawyers LONG befor begging for help. Hell do that tomorrow morning bright and early and see what they say.

Dagwolf 01-31-2007 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 11830290)
???

Are you flying under the radar?

Not a citizen ... not a tax payer?

I pay taxes

I'm tired. I'm supposed to be avoiding stress. I've got to sleep now; can the haters (I don't mean you, L-Pink) save it for tomorrow?

Holly 01-31-2007 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkmister (Post 11830304)
I think I like you....want to marry me?

It depends. Are you employed or have some type of gainful income?

That's a very important trait in a man, you know.

Holly 01-31-2007 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf (Post 11830324)
I've got to sleep now; can the haters (I don't mean you, L-Pink) save it for tomorrow?

Actually, no. I'm hoping to god someone will just close this thread because I can already tell I'm not going to be able to stop.


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