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  • HELMY
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    • Aug 2002
    • 494

    #1

    hey Mike South...Alec Helmy here...

    RE: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=701086

    As far as me somehow facilitating .XXX to get approved - heh, as if I have that kinda power - thanks, I'm flattered.

    Believe it or not, no one within the adult industry has the power to get .XXX approved.

    What XBIZ has done is facilitate an open dialogue with a TLD that may get approved and has the power to impact our industry.

    We can either turn a blind eye or instead try to learn about its plans, ask questions and do whatever we can to influence its direction for the best interest of the industry - I along with many others prefer the latter, as is evident in the number of folks attending the event.



    Alec
    XBIZ™ | The Industry Source
  • xclusive
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    • Apr 2004
    • 35218

    #2
    .xxx sucks ass and so does anybody that supports it. Just hope you aren't getting in bed with the devil so to speak on this one.

    I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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    • OMG Jim
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      • Oct 2005
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      #3
      Popcorn is ready. This looks like a great seat!
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      • devilspost
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        • Feb 2004
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        #4
        porn is free speech and will never be taken off .com anyway

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        • D-Money
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          sig placement!
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          • Juicy D. Links
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            • Apr 2001
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            #6
            I just left dentist I have novacaine in me I can't feel left side of face

            I will be ok don't worry ewveryone

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            • Nikki_Licks
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              • May 2005
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              #7
              Getting a seat in here while there is still room
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              • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                • Jul 2004
                • 38323

                #8
                So, tell us Alec, do you support .xxx or not, and why?

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                • Juicy D. Links
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                  • Apr 2001
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                  #9
                  Some bitch almost hit the juicymobile

                  Fucking a. I gavee her the NY salute

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                  • Brujah
                    Beer Money Baron
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 22157

                    #10
                    Alec, if .XXX is approved how much money will you receive per domain registration?

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                    • OY
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                      • Oct 2002
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                      #11
                      Go get him Alec :-))
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                      • Mr. Jim
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                        #12

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                        • D-Money
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                          • Feb 2002
                          • 9716

                          #13
                          I had Acacia on my live talk show a while back, d-moneyshow.com.

                          Lot's of people were pissed that I gave them a platform to explain themselves and take questions prepared by our industry.

                          In the end, it turned out to be a very good thing. I got them to state on the record a bunch of things, which they've never stated before that time.

                          It benefited the industry that I had them speak on my live show. I'm sure if you ask Homegrown and the rest of the people fighting the fight, they'd agree that was a good move too.
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                          • Screaming
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                            • Feb 2004
                            • 18972

                            #14
                            can you awnser if you are in support of .xxx?

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                            • edgeprod
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                              • Mar 2004
                              • 10019

                              #15
                              For everyone asking me in ICQ who Mike South is, you'll get the same reply as I'm giving everyone else: "Who cares?"

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                              • tony299
                                lurker
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 57021

                                #16
                                Originally posted by HELMY
                                RE: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=701086

                                As far as me somehow facilitating .XXX to get approved - heh, as if I have that kinda power - thanks, I'm flattered.

                                Believe it or not, no one within the adult industry has the power to get .XXX approved.

                                What XBIZ has done is facilitate an open dialogue with a TLD that may get approved and has the power to impact our industry.

                                We can either turn a blind eye or instead try to learn about its plans, ask questions and do whatever we can to influence its direction for the best interest of the industry - I along with many others prefer the latter, as is evident in the number of folks attending the event.



                                Alec
                                You still havent given a yes or no, why the fancy dancing yes or no?

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                                • tony299
                                  lurker
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 57021

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by edgeprod
                                  For everyone asking me in ICQ who Mike South is, you'll get the same reply as I'm giving everyone else: "Who cares?"
                                  Your wrong on that one he has won two avns and his site is the most read in the porn industry. If he is no one you think Alec would be running here to make nice nice lol

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                                  • RawAlex
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                                    • Oct 2003
                                    • 9465

                                    #18
                                    Alec, while I appreciate your comments and feedback, let's cut ot he chase:

                                    Do you personally support the .XXX deal? In your own words, why or why not?

                                    I think that was the point, no?

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                                    • mikesouth
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jun 2003
                                      • 6334

                                      #19
                                      OK Guys Alec doesnt want to answer this because he can do one of two things

                                      He can lie and hope nobody knows the truth or he can be honest and take his licks.

                                      Thats why he wont answer. I have a very trusted source who has told me

                                      "I don't care what Alec tells you financially he is heavily vested in .XXX" this source is in a very unique position to know.

                                      If I were advertisinf on xbiz...I would stop personally.

                                      LOL who is Mike South....who cares... It appears to me that XBiz cares very much
                                      Mike South

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                                      • Deej
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                                        • Jun 2005
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                                        #20
                                        hrmmm...something is going on here....

                                        and it dosnt look good...

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                                        • xclusive
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                                          • Apr 2004
                                          • 35218

                                          #21
                                          Bump for some more answers

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                                          • Nikki_Licks
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                                            • May 2005
                                            • 6323

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Deej
                                            hrmmm...something is going on here....

                                            and it dosnt look good...
                                            I agree, I think some horse shit and window dressing is going on here. It's really not a hard question to answer.
                                            If you are convinced that what you believe in is that great, you would be proud to admit it and talk about why you feel this way.
                                            The same for the flipside, If you are convinced that what you believe in is not that great, you would be proud to admit it and talk about why you feel this way.

                                            It seems we have only seen one side and that is the side of the people opposing .xxx.
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                                            • JD
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                                              • Sep 2003
                                              • 22651

                                              #23
                                              oh shit first page siggus maximus!

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                                              • Nookster
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                                                #24
                                                wtf, still no answer?
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                                                • HELMY
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                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 494

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                  Alec, while I appreciate your comments and feedback, let's cut ot he chase:

                                                  Do you personally support the .XXX deal? In your own words, why or why not?

                                                  I think that was the point, no?

                                                  I do not support .XXX because of the various concerns and unknowns already discussed on the boards.

                                                  Should it get approved, it'll be best to try to influence its direction - and not for financial gains.
                                                  XBIZ™ | The Industry Source

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                                                  • Snake Doctor
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                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                    • 13449

                                                    #26
                                                    This might get interesting
                                                    sig too big

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                                                    • Webby
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                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 14956

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by HELMY
                                                      RE: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=701086

                                                      As far as me somehow facilitating .XXX to get approved - heh, as if I have that kinda power - thanks, I'm flattered.

                                                      Believe it or not, no one within the adult industry has the power to get .XXX approved.

                                                      What XBIZ has done is facilitate an open dialogue with a TLD that may get approved and has the power to impact our industry.

                                                      We can either turn a blind eye or instead try to learn about its plans, ask questions and do whatever we can to influence its direction for the best interest of the industry - I along with many others prefer the latter, as is evident in the number of folks attending the event.



                                                      Alec

                                                      Gawd you sound like a political statement Alec...

                                                      Your concern for the adult industry is awesome, together with your assumptions that a .XXX TLD will get approved, - but, that was not the question which was raised.

                                                      The question was whether you personally support the proposal for .XXX TLD's and whether any businesses which you own, or have any interest in, are possibly going to recieve funds from the sale of the proposed new .XXX TLD's.

                                                      Regarding the courtesy XBiz has extended to Lawley, an individual who is not even in this industry, by giving him a platform to spew his views is most gracious. I'm sure Stuart will be appreciative of the credence kindly granted by XBiz and that he will, like always, be an open book and explain all his "plans" and expound his moral values and concerns for the children of this planet. XBiz have excelled themselves and the only saving grace is that XBiz do not represent the adult industry.

                                                      On the topic of "turning a blind eye" - this does appear to fall more within your province when you are unable to state whether you support the introduction of .XXX TLD's or not. It must be a hard decision.
                                                      XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                      • Anthony
                                                        Keyboard Warrior
                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                        • 9653

                                                        #28
                                                        Bump for an answer.

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                                                        • Webby
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                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 14956

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by HELMY
                                                          I do not support .XXX because of the various concerns and unknowns already discussed on the boards.

                                                          Should it get approved, it'll be best to try to influence its direction - and not for financial gains.
                                                          Well... that's a start!
                                                          XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                          • xclusive
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                                                            • Apr 2004
                                                            • 35218

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by HELMY
                                                            I do not support .XXX because of the various concerns and unknowns already discussed on the boards.

                                                            Should it get approved, it'll be best to try to influence its direction - and not for financial gains.
                                                            Thanks for finally coming forward with a few things that make your stance a little more concrete. But do you or companies your associated with get any piece of the money from any or all .xxx domains registered. Yes or no will do.

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                                                            • XPays
                                                              Team Player
                                                              • May 2004
                                                              • 13002

                                                              #31
                                                              like d$ said, excluding the acacia's and icm registry's of the world from discussions is an isolationist reflexive mentality. .xxx is a stupid concept for the health of the industry and XPays is totally against the .xxx extension; but, why is it so difficult to grasp the concept of companies hedging their bets?

                                                              when stephen from xbiz was mentioning yesterday here that there were some industry players with a stake in .xxx domains- he should have named the names. Other than that, these stake-holders are just hedging. .xxx disappears and they win, .xxx appears and they win. there is no conspiracy and it is just business. the leap that .xxx will be the standard and the industry will be forced to migrate is some chicken-little doomsday shit and highly irrational imho.
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                                                              • XPays
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                                                                #32
                                                                and keep in mind icm/hendeles were seeking strategic partners early on and they were rumoured to be offering stock to some toronto-based big-whigs and others. xbiz should name the names since they apparently know who the industry players are that hold stock in .xxx.
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                                                                • seeric
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  I am not attending this seminar to let them tell me how to proceed with anything. I am attending this event to potentially confront him on his shady way of attempting to make money. None of his "reasons" are holding water. The reason he is doing this is money and money only.

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                                                                  • Mr. Jim
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                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                    • 4372

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Starting to feel like this...

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                                                                    • edgeprod
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                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                      • 10019

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                                                      Your wrong on that one he has won two avns and his site is the most read in the porn industry. If he is no one you think Alec would be running here to make nice nice lol
                                                                      What part is wrong? I am giving an opinion, and that opinion is: "who gives a fuck?"

                                                                      Are you the thought police now, or just his girlfriend?

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                                                                      • xclusive
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Apr 2004
                                                                        • 35218

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Mr. Jim
                                                                        Starting to feel like this...

                                                                        Or a little "I'm not a crook" - Tricky Dick action


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                                                                        • baddog
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                          • 107089

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by HELMY
                                                                          I do not support .XXX because of the various concerns and unknowns already discussed on the boards.

                                                                          Should it get approved, it'll be best to try to influence its direction - and not for financial gains.
                                                                          Thank you.

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                                                                          • tony299
                                                                            lurker
                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                            • 57021

                                                                            #38
                                                                            lets see iffor decides alot of our fate 7 board spots if im correct and only one goes to adult and we are going to influence the way they go,giving him a platform to throw bullshit at us.A man who really considers us a bunch of scumbags that need a babysitter. god thanks for a good laugh lol
                                                                            I would bet Mike is probably right on his info is wrong on tips rarely.

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                                                                            • HomeFry
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                                                                              • 1062

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Come on people! They've been pushing .XXX for nearly a decade, and nothing has happened with it.
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                                                                              • bonkerz2007
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                                                                                • Sep 2005
                                                                                • 794

                                                                                #40
                                                                                OK...I'm sure i'm the only one that had no idea what Acacia is/was but just in case here's a link with some info:

                                                                                http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...,767313,00.asp

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                                                                                • Mark_E4A
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                                                                                  #41
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                                                                                  • FightThisPatent
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                                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                                    • 4090

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by D-Money
                                                                                    I had Acacia on my live talk show a while back, d-moneyshow.com.

                                                                                    Lot's of people were pissed that I gave them a platform to explain themselves and take questions prepared by our industry.

                                                                                    In the end, it turned out to be a very good thing. I got them to state on the record a bunch of things, which they've never stated before that time.

                                                                                    It benefited the industry that I had them speak on my live show. I'm sure if you ask Homegrown and the rest of the people fighting the fight, they'd agree that was a good move too.


                                                                                    absolutely! right on your show, he called the adult biz "low hanging fruit"....

                                                                                    priceless.


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                                                                                    • FightThisPatent
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                                                                                      • 4090

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by bonkerz2007
                                                                                      OK...I'm sure i'm the only one that had no idea what Acacia is/was but just in case here's a link with some info:
                                                                                      oh my....

                                                                                      http://www.FightThePatent.com



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                                                                                      • HELMY
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                                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                                        • 494

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by xclusive
                                                                                        Thanks for finally coming forward with a few things that make your stance a little more concrete. But do you or companies your associated with get any piece of the money from any or all .xxx domains registered. Yes or no will do.


                                                                                        No.


                                                                                        Now I look fwd to seeing Mike South post my comments on his highly controversial blog.
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                                                                                        • edgeprod
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                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                          • 10019

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by HELMY
                                                                                          Now I look fwd to seeing Mike South post my comments on his highly controversial blog.
                                                                                          How can a blog filled with so much ranting, raving, profanity, and general "what-the-fuckedness" be controversial? He's mainstream, I'd argue. I think my grandmother reads it.

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                                                                                          • J.R.
                                                                                            WantBoobs.com
                                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                                            • 3478

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Interesting..

                                                                                            Maybe I am missing something, what is the big deal if .xxx exists ?
                                                                                            Somebody, fill me in on this. I must have missed that day of .xxx 101

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                                                                                            • Kenny B!
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                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                              • 5718

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Wow some of you guys amaze me. Helmy has done more in and for this industry then most of you can even dream of. Fucking keyboard wariors.
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                                                                                              • bonkerz2007
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by J.R.
                                                                                                Interesting..

                                                                                                Maybe I am missing something, what is the big deal if .xxx exists ?
                                                                                                Somebody, fill me in on this. I must have missed that day of .xxx 101
                                                                                                I just had to google it myself. Wikipedia had some info on it.

                                                                                                My guess is everyone will have to register their domains again and it may end up being first come first serve.

                                                                                                Anyone one want to back that up or correct it?

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                                                                                                • kmanrox
                                                                                                  aka K-Man
                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                  • 29295

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  This owning is courtesy of HELMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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                                                                                                  • edgeprod
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                                                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                                                    • 10019

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by kmanrox
                                                                                                    This owning is courtesy of HELMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
                                                                                                    South will be VERY lucky if the only owning he gets is on the boards, and not in the court for libel. I'd laugh my ass off as the stood there and said, "But I thought I *knew* what satire was! You mean, that isn't what I did, and I can't hide behind it?"

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