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  • Choker
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2001
    • 9024

    #1

    Charge backs with eppassporte? OMFG

    I have always defended eppassporte when people bashed them. What made them great was the fact that buyers could not charge back. And lets face it webmasters are not the most honest bunch of people. So a couple days ago a guy icqed me said he sent me $600 by accident, that if I sent him $550 he would be happy. So I sent him his entire $600 back. So today my eppassporte account gets debited a $600 chargeback. Thanks for contacting me before you took the money out eppassporte. So now I'm out not just $600, but $1200. Yeah I know contact them and they will fix it. Well a few months back my account had over $1000 in quote "errors" and they never got back to me. When I call them all I get is a busy signal. Eppassporte I love you but this chargeback policy is bullshit. Things are just not the same without Rand and Esther there. I have been one of your biggest supporters since you guys came on the scene. To be treated like this is insulting at best. Sigh
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  • Twisted Dave
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    • Mar 2006
    • 3635

    #2
    Wow ... that sucks. I don't do the same kind of business but I assume I'm at risk too ... I hope things get sorted and this problem is fixed ... Some kind of system of warning or discussion should surely be in place?


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    • Michael O
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      • Jul 2001
      • 10607

      #3
      Originally posted by Choker
      I have always defended eppassporte when people bashed them. What made them great was the fact that buyers could not charge back. And lets face it webmasters are not the most honest bunch of people. So a couple days ago a guy icqed me said he sent me $600 by accident, that if I sent him $550 he would be happy. So I sent him his entire $600 back. So today my eppassporte account gets debited a $600 chargeback. Thanks for contacting me before you took the money out eppassporte. So now I'm out not just $600, but $1200. Yeah I know contact them and they will fix it. Well a few months back my account had over $1000 in quote "errors" and they never got back to me. When I call them all I get is a busy signal. Eppassporte I love you but this chargeback policy is bullshit. Things are just not the same without Rand and Esther there. I have been one of your biggest supporters since you guys came on the scene. To be treated like this is insulting at best. Sigh
      Choker I am sorry to hear about your troubles can you please email me your account name and either add a screen shot of your statement with the transactions circled or copy and paste them into the email, then I will look into it.
      Please also include your ICQ number and I will contact you Wednesday when I have more information about it.
      My email is [email protected]

      Thanks
      Truth Teller

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      • Choker
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2001
        • 9024

        #4
        Originally posted by Michael O
        Choker I am sorry to hear about your troubles can you please email me your account name and either add a screen shot of your statement with the transactions circled or copy and paste them into the email, then I will look into it.
        Please also include your ICQ number and I will contact you Wednesday when I have more information about it.
        My email is [email protected]

        Thanks
        thanks man I will do that now.
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        • Big_Red
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          • Jun 2006
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          #5
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          • WarChild
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            • Jan 2003
            • 17263

            #6
            Originally posted by Choker
            So now I'm out not just $600, but $1200.
            Whoa, that's some fuzzy math right there.

            The transactions in your epass account look like this:

            +$600 (Transfered in from scammer)
            -$600 (Transfered out to scammer)
            -$600 (Charge back)

            Add them together for your actual loss.
            .

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            • madawgz
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              • Mar 2006
              • 30509

              #7
              i hope you get that money back...

              first time ive heard about chargebacks
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              • Choker
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2001
                • 9024

                #8
                Originally posted by madawgz
                i hope you get that money back...

                first time ive heard about chargebacks
                Yah first time I have heard of chargebacks with epass also. If this is a new policy it's only a matter of time...............
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                • Choker
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                  • Apr 2001
                  • 9024

                  #9
                  Originally posted by WarChild
                  Whoa, that's some fuzzy math right there.

                  The transactions in your epass account look like this:

                  +$600 (Transfered in from scammer)
                  -$600 (Transfered out to scammer)
                  -$600 (Charge back)

                  Add them together for your actual loss.

                  I'm a old fucker, I'm allowed occasional brain farts. LOL
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                  • Chio
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                    • Oct 2002
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                    #10
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                    • CaptainHowdy
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                      • Dec 2004
                      • 94741

                      #11
                      Michael O right on top !!

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                      • ridikuloz
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 2080

                        #12
                        I would of just kept that $600. Fuck sending it back.
                        Each persons' level of stupidity makes us different.

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                        • FreeHugeMovies
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                          • Dec 2001
                          • 14141

                          #13
                          What a cock sucker, you need to tell us who this is Choker

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                          • mattz
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 7697

                            #14
                            good luck getting support from epassorte, your only hope is Michael

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Choker
                              I'm a old fucker, I'm allowed occasional brain farts. LOL
                              it doesn't matter if your math was correct or not, what matters is you were charged back and lost your own $$$

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                              • interracialtoons
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2006
                                • 1910

                                #16
                                Originally posted by WarChild
                                Whoa, that's some fuzzy math right there.

                                The transactions in your epass account look like this:

                                +$600 (Transfered in from scammer)
                                -$600 (Transfered out to scammer)
                                -$600 (Charge back)

                                Add them together for your actual loss.
                                He's adding in the fact that he had $600 profit when the money was sent.
                                So he not only lost his profit but the charge back also.

                                That would be the way to report it on your taxes.
                                Done.

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                                  #17
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                                  • woj
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
                                    What a cock sucker, you need to tell us who this is Choker
                                    good call
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                                    • GTS Mark
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                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 20912

                                      #19
                                      Please out them so the same person doesn;t try to screw us too.

                                      DH

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                                      • riddler
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2004
                                        • 3726

                                        #20
                                        epassporte has always had charge backs, just had to email them to get the pdf form to proceed with it.

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                                        • PHP-CODER-FOR-HIRE
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                                          • Nov 2006
                                          • 1090

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Choker
                                          I'm a old fucker, I'm allowed occasional brain farts. LOL
                                          heheh how true

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                                          • DWB
                                            Registered User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 31779

                                            #22
                                            Well then chargeback the $600 you sent to the guy.

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                                            • Valoon
                                              Registered User
                                              • Nov 2006
                                              • 52

                                              #23
                                              similar case

                                              I had similar case with EP.there were no problem.I asked that guy to request EP for a refund.That's all.
                                              The matter is you mixed up EP's succession.They handle with such cases easily.
                                              pure misunderstanding...

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                                              • Fizzgig
                                                Registered User
                                                • Feb 2004
                                                • 9649

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                Well then chargeback the $600 you sent to the guy.
                                                Now that would be interesting.
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                                                • gecko
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                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                  • 21846

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by riddler
                                                  epassporte has always had charge backs, just had to email them to get the pdf form to proceed with it.
                                                  never knew, I'll keep that in mind
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                                                    #26
                                                    is the 600 related to that guy or maybe its a chargeback of 600 about another sale
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                                                    • Nookster
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                                                      #27
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                                                      • Choker
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                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                        • 9024

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST
                                                        Please out them so the same person doesn;t try to screw us too.

                                                        DH
                                                        I'm waiting on him to icq me first, want to make sure this is a mistake before I out him. Gotta give him the benifit here
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                                                        • KingK7
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                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                          • 6372

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Choker
                                                          So a couple days ago a guy icqed me said he sent me $600 by accident, that if I sent him $550 he would be happy. So I sent him his entire $600 back.

                                                          Whoa, that almost sounds like a Nigeria scam...

                                                          Hope you get your money back man...

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                                                          • Choker
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                            • 9024

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST
                                                            Please out them so the same person doesn;t try to screw us too.

                                                            DH
                                                            his epass user name is gntmidnight, http://www.xpornfree.com/ is his site which is a se now, I'm sure he has quit the biz. I got the email from eppassporte yesterday at 1:58 pm saying they will be reversing the charge within 48 hours. After looking in my admin just now I see they cleared his chargeback. So by the time they discover this fraud I am sure he will have withdrawn the money from his account and I will be told it's too late, he already took the $600 out. If your gonna let people do chargebacks, at least give the person being charged back a opportuinty to dispute it. I sent a email right away to eppassporte. This is just plain bad business all the way around.
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                                                            • Doctor Dre
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                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 51692

                                                              #31
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                                                              • Juilan
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                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                • 15141

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Choker
                                                                If your gonna let people do chargebacks, at least give the person being charged back a opportuinty to dispute it. I sent a email right away to eppassporte. This is just plain bad business all the way around.
                                                                A dispute period would be fair on Epassporte's part.
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                                                                • avalanche
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                                                                  • Feb 2005
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Sorry to hear about that.....sucks.....just sent you a msg on an issue that might actually be related.
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                                                                  • split_joel
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                                                                    • Jan 2005
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                                                                    #34
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                                                                    • DeanCapture
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                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                      • 9275

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Choker
                                                                      If your gonna let people do chargebacks, at least give the person being charged back a opportuinty to dispute it. I sent a email right away to eppassporte. This is just plain bad business all the way around.
                                                                      Epass did the chargeback without even contacting you first? That's unbelievable
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                                                                      • studiocritic
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                                                                        • Jun 2005
                                                                        • 2442

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by DeanCapture
                                                                        Epass did the chargeback without even contacting you first? That's unbelievable
                                                                        No it's not. It's completely believable, unfortunately.

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                                                                        • rowan
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                          • 17393

                                                                          #37
                                                                          It's the old overpayment scam...

                                                                          You invoice someone for $500 and they "accidentally" send you $2k. They ask you to return the difference. Shortly afterwards the original payment bounces, and you're $1500 out of pocket.

                                                                          Epass should set up a refund feature so that if this happens again you can simply refund the transaction (as opposed to you SENDING them funds) and get them to send the correct amount.

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                                                                          • rowan
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                            • 17393

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Perhaps epass could also implement a short cooling off period where you have the option to outright reject a payment - thus removing all liability - if you believe it's going to be fraudulent.

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                                                                            • $5 submissions
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                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                              • 32195

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Damn...... I didn't know epass allowed chargebacks.... Thanks for the headsup.

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                                                                              • rowan
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                • 17393

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                                Damn...... I didn't know epass allowed chargebacks.... Thanks for the headsup.
                                                                                I don't think it's a "sender initiated" chargeback like with a credit card, it is more like epass recovering funds from a CC load transaction that has been reversed due to fraud. Paypal does the same thing.

                                                                                It pays to remember that when you receive funds from another member they are NOT necessarily fully cleared, even though the CC transaction succeeded...

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                                                                                • SleazyDream
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                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                  • 41470

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Choker
                                                                                  ........Yeah I know contact them and they will fix it. .........Sigh

                                                                                  ummm, let me get this straight.

                                                                                  you're bitching at epassport and havn't even contacted them yet?
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                                                                                  • Michael O
                                                                                    More Cowbell
                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                    • 10607

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    This issue was solved last night.
                                                                                    Truth Teller

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                                                                                    • Choker
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                      • 9024

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Michael O
                                                                                      This issue was solved last night.
                                                                                      Thank you Michael
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                                                                                      • Choker
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                                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                                        • 9024

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                        ummm, let me get this straight.

                                                                                        you're bitching at epassport and havn't even contacted them yet?
                                                                                        Umm, I said I tried to call them but got a busy signal. I also replied to the email they sent me about the chargeback but never got a response. Michael took care of it anyway.
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                                                                                        • Michael O
                                                                                          More Cowbell
                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                          • 10607

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Choker
                                                                                          Thank you Michael
                                                                                          Any time if there is anything else you are always welcome to contact me via email or ICQ.
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                                                                                          • xxxfeetxxx
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                                                                                            • Sep 2005
                                                                                            • 4218

                                                                                            #46
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                                                                                            • 26MLR
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                                                                                              • Dec 2005
                                                                                              • 401

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Get your money. Quick.

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                                                                                              • Klen
                                                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                                                • 32235

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Chargebacks sucks ! ! !

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