fiddy an eigth:pimp

i have an eating disorder. does that count?

I smoke 2 much ...

Buncha disfunctional losers up in here. Criminy. :eek7

nowadays just caffeine and internet

yeah try going cold turkey with paxil and see what happens

evil drug

Caffiene all the way baby.

Agree. Being an alcoholic is much worse than being weed addicted.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Well its the truth. Laughing at it without even giving the possibility of rational thought only makes you out to look like a dumbass, no offence.

Its what we call a "fanatic". Not accepting the possibility of being wrong.

Addiction is addiction. No OFFENSE.

Im hardly a fanatic

an adiction is an adiction. the "drug of choice" does not matter

some may be more detrimental to your health or property but all can take some people to the same place weither its alcohol heroin weed pill ect ect

I know plenty of people who have had a harder time getting off weed then quiting other substances

:2 cents:

what he said

:thumbsup

At least the person is happy and positive under weed.

man you are really clueless on SOO many levels

Even cold turkey with Oxy's isn't pretty. ;)

I smoke but that's about it.. I'm more addicted to Call of Duty 3 than any substance lol.

depending on your level of dependence on oxy's cold turkey can be verry dangerous

cold turkey from ANY opiod dependence is dangerous

Of course it does. You eat to escape the reality of your pathetic life. That is why you are a fat fuck. Now put down the big mac and go to a 12 step meeting.

I can just FEEL the love.

sorry, but i had examples to judge after, so i am not clueless.
And i am not talking about taking weed everyday in big amounts.
Having an alcoholic in the familly is the worse thing ever!
Taking weed sometimes is nothing bad. Weed is not a strong drug that you can't quit.

I agree, but being addicted to turning the doorknob isnt as destructive to yourself as being addicted to smashing your fingers with a hammer.

And since the argument in questions isnt "is addiction an addiction?", but rather "could it possibly be true that cannabis is less harmful than alcohol?" your point is semi-irrelevant. I agree though.

Oh yes, as do I. And I have seen people that only drink during the weekends and only once a month do a lot dumber, destructive and regrettable things than people that smoke up on a daily basis. We werent really discussing wheter or not cannabis or alcohol is easier to shake off in case you get fully addicted.

I should state that its impossible to have your body become physically addicted to cannabis however, so any addiction is purely mentally, whereas you get both physically and mentally addicted to alcohol. That goes hand in hand with how much harsher alcohol degenerates your body btw.

What was being said, however, was that being addicted to cannabis is less destructive than being addicted to alcohol. Both to yourself, but especially to your surroundings. And i stand by that.

Yes, there are the wild stories of one person doing X and Y under the effects of Z, those stories are irrelevant as we are not discussing absolutes. If i had said "NOTHING bad ever happened on cannabis" and you said "once something bad happened on cannabis", then it would have had merit.

Think of the 95% percentile payment system we pay bandwith under and filter out the 'wild' and 'unheard of' stories.

I really must protest, one example of the one kind of addiction compared with the other type of addiction done in a completely different way is just not a valid comparison.

If you must compare, you must do it with a large group and with likewise parameters.

I know you argue my case, i just dont agree with how you do it. Having a few examples is not a valid basis of reasoning.

That's what i meant. The damage that brings addictions to surroundings.

we are taling about adicts NOT the weekend smoker or drinker

so your General comment about a person being happy and positive on weed was a clueless statement

:2 cents:

It IS possible for your body to become physically additced to grass. The symptoms of withdrwal may not be as sever as other drugs but it does happen. Your body becomes use to the effects of having thc in your system. I am talking from EXPERIENCE here not some study.

as far as addiction to cannibis being less destructive then alcohol or any other drug that is not a correct statement. Weed can take some people to lows and self destructive behaviors just as bad as any other drug. AGAIN im speaking from experince

I thought i was argueing with Forest. :1orglaugh

Those are not few examples of smoking weed that i have. I have many people around me that smoke weed. they grow it themselves, so it is pure without any acids or chemicals involved in it. It is their lifestyle and they are not some drug addicted people. Absolutely normal and intelligent.
I am just trying to say that i have never seen anyone who would become some kind of garbage after smoking weed for years.

Yes, i got it.

so because its "Natrual" thaty makes it a non addictive non harmful drug

your cluelessness is reaching new levels

:1orglaugh

well your looking at one

Bud took me to lows I never thought I would ever get to or get up from

AND I was a daily 24/7 smoker for 20+ years. One day it just stpped working for me the way it did for so many years. AND i was a equal oppotunnity drug adict. I did it all including alcohol since i was 11 years old.

I was able to quit doing ALL drugs and alcohol on my own with no program EXCEPT for marijuana. That was the drug that broght me to my knees

NOW with that said I am speaking about MY OWN experince and dont and wont judge anyone who partakes in any drug as that is their choice.

This is just my story

Im sorry but you are simply wrong. Yes, a heavily addicted abuser that goes cold turkey will experience psychosomatic "withdrawals" and often these symptoms of withdrawal are way more severe than drugs that actually yield a physical addiction.

Actually its your mind that gets used to the mind-altering effects that THC provides and when you are suddendly no longer having these mind-altering effects and you know fully why you are not, you will create the psychological effects yourself and experience 'withdrawals'.

Its purely psychological, its not physical. There have been an enormous amount of tests testing this, it was one of the major controversies when holland was legalising cannabis.

Ofcource its a correct statement. If a person can go to the same low from cannabis as they could from fx heroin, then its the person and the surroundings from where they obtain/use the drugs, not the drug in question.

And you need to stop being so focused on your term "self destructive" and realize that most damage done by abusers are damage done to their surroundings.

Take a look at countries where cannabis is (basically or entirely) as legal as alcohol. You are arguing against accepted medical fact, history and common sense.

When i said "natural", i meant that you may smoke weed that contains chemicals that give you extra drug adddiction.

Well, you are probably the first person that i know who has weed addiction...
Sorry.

Obviously never lived with an alcoholic. I grew up with one for a father, and have known countless others since. Weed addiction isn't a good thing, but it certainly doesn't have AS many adverse effects on the individual (physical and mental health), the people around them or society in general.