100........

morning bump :thumbsup

Thanks, Tony, Dawn will appreciate that :)

No need to go "hmmmm" ? after Lloyd posted his thread at XBIZ, I received a phone call from one of my oldest friends in the biz and someone who's opinion and insights I trust. No, it wasn't Helmy, it was someone I've known longer. He's also a guy with a few more zeros on his bottom line than I have ? so when he talks about making money and inside deals, I listen.

He told me a lot of things (including the names I know, the traffic deals and plans for litigation) and asked me not to reveal the details. When I tell someone that yes "this is between us" I mean it ? and while I've probably alreaday said too much, the info did provide some new perspectives for me.

we knew those names, we wanna know the others. the cowards that are hiding that don't have the balls to own up to their "business" decisions.

Would the names by chance be the ASACP Board members? If memory serves me correctly the sold us out the first time and I bet they still get a kickback from every .xxx domain sold...maybe thats the 2 year old deal XBizStephen keeps talking about. HMMMM and we all know Alec sits atop that board...double hmmm is there no end to the chickens around here?

If yer for .XXX I have plenty of respect for you if you come out and say it, its all this slinking around bullshit that makes you look like a cabal of petty thieves.

I don't think Stephen knows anything. All he does is say "I can't tell you this.. I can't tell you that..." and makes new posts to say some other new mysterious character contacted him but he can't reveal anything.

Why make the posts in the first place then? Just shut up.

I am starting to agree.....he makes too many comments about how "in the know" he is, and about all these secret meetings and phone calls...why the fuck even say anything at all? most people that are "in the know" as much as he claims to be don't say anything, but the fact that he does say that he is in fact "in the know" about all these secrets leads me to believe he is just talking out of his ass to get attention

The names I was given are not ASACP Board members.

Joan's out of town, and I would rather have her address your concerns, but my feeling is that after the initial outcry over the "ICM supporting ASACP" deal, that the last thing she'll want is a cut of sales ? or the controversey surrounding that plan. Sure, ASACP can use all the donations it can get in order to continue its good work, but I doubt they need the money so badly that they have to alienate half the industry to do it. Still, Joan can tell you straight up the status of that deal.

No, the two year old deal was about how the type-in traffic to non-registered domains would be split up. For example, if nobody registered pussy.xxx, the type-ins of that name would be funneled to various players.

Follow THAT deal if you want to know who really stands to benefit from .xxx

For those that *really* look past the emotion and focus at the issue and the facts surrounding it (and I count myself among that group) ? the question of whether or not you support .xxx isn't as simple as "yes" or "no" as there are still a lot of unanswered questions.

In my next blog post (tomorrow or Friday) I'll delve into the reasons why .xxx could be the best thing to happen to the biz at this point ? and why it won't work and instead could be the worst thing to happen to us. After you read that, I'm certain that alot of folks will reconsider their stance, either for or against, .xxx, and realize some of the factors that don't get a lot of attention.

You're not the first person to say that.

Not "some other" ? most of the behind-the-scenes info I have came from one guy, a few days ago. I know that some of you can't wait to repost the things that are told to you in confidence, but I'm not one of them.

I was really wondering that myself, in reference to this thread...

One year from the day its passed please bookmark this thread to come back,it will be law. Im a political junkie I worked on campaigns as a kid my first I was 13 and thru my young adulthood(I was fat didnt get laid needed something to do lol ), I know the mind of those rotten scumbags we call public servants. Im sorry if you took my come on think like I was talking to you like you were a moron. That wasn't it and the problem with written exchange of ideas as opposed if we sitting across a table in a restaurant.It reads different then if it was spoken.

Fair enough

I think i'll leave my mark in this thread...

You're all right, Tony. It's the folks that would rather lower themselves to personal attacks, create fake drama, and basically stir things up without anyone questioning their agenda for doing so, that piss me off.

I'm off now. I'll be back to post a link to my blog, or repost it here, in an attempt to further the discussion for those interested in some of the issues.

I've known Stephen for a while, he knows more about whats going on in the industry than most. It's because of his position and he can't tell everything he knows because of it, I tell him things he can't repeat till the time is right.

MikeSouth, fuck you for personal attacks on your blog, come and visit me in Vegas this summer so we can settle it? That is if you can back up your mouth!

What the matter Vendzilla? Cant take it? I told you fuckers in yer little forum when you were taking shots at me that you best have thick skin as I do....seems ya don't

Whatcha gonna do? Shoot me? LOL

I live to make examples out of idiots.

You call me an idiot? Your the one calling out a GFY moderator on GFY, what kind of idiot does that?

A reply from Helmy
 

hey Mike South...Alec Helmy here...

As far as me somehow facilitating .XXX to get approved - heh, as if I have that kinda power - thanks, I'm flattered.

Believe it or not, no one within the adult industry has the power to get .XXX approved.

What XBIZ has done is facilitate an open dialogue with a TLD that may get approved and has the power to impact our industry.

We can either turn a blind eye or instead try to learn about its plans, ask questions and do whatever we can to influence its direction for the best interest of the industry - I along with many others prefer the latter, as is evident in the number of folks attending the event.

Alec

To me if your going to be a moderator then you got to neutral but if your not leave your mod hat at home. Now here your being meek but at the other place you guys were beating Mike up.So to come here first threaten to beat him up and then threaten to use your powers as mod.If you going to get into it then dont bring up the threat your a mod not cool. Most internet people dont realize the reach Mike has.

So - basically a number of good points and concern shown - a few feathers ruffled, the usual "good guys" portrayals and infantile labelling of the majority of this industry and nothing in the way of answers as to whether Helmy personally supports the introduction of .XXX TDS's or not, or if he, or any of the businesses in which he is involved are potential benficiaries.

All that was asked for was a two or three character response - Yes or No. One can only assume, based on the track record.

Sheesh.. Not a good idea Vendzilla and not exactly of the level expected of any moderator. :disgust

He still didnt give a yes or no. Man this industry is so fucked up lol

I never threatened him on GFY, I told him to meet me in Vegas to settle this, he's attacking me on his blog, I don't care who or what the fuck he is, it don't fly with me!

What, so personal attacks are OK with you? He's attacking me on his blog, I want that down, what the fuck is your problem with that?

hahahAHAHAhahahahAHAHAHa :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I would like everyone to note that he still doesn't say whether he is for or against .xxx

Heres a quote from a very trusted source "I don't care what Alec may say to you, financially he is heavily vested in .xxx"

He won't answer that because he knows the truth...

and he knows I know

I dont have a problem with that, it was throwing in your a mod.

As for Vendzilla...I dont want him rebukled as a mod here or anything, I simply ask that he be man enough to take what he dishes out.

I even gave him a heads up...and if he asks I will remove his photos same as I did for Stephen but I wont remove the part where I called him out.

Nor will I stop calling him out whenever I see fit.

Interesting, to say the least......
I really doubt anyone who backs it or is heavily vested in the .xxx movement will admit it. If I was for it I would at least have the balls to own up to my decision, even if it was wrong

To me if you think its so right and all the other "big fish " want it too and we the small people dont matter. Why not say it ? It leads me to believe one of two things not as many big fish are for it or the small people have alot more power then they realize.

Don't matter what I think man - I'm not acting in the role of a moderator. And also know there are two sides to every story, but wearing one hat and trying to wear others at the same time looks kinda stupid. There are more relevant things worth addressing - stay cool, constructive and poke a finger in the pie if it can serve a useful purpose :pimp

That was a Lame comment.

Bottom line as affiliates you are supporting the very same people in many facets that are selling you down the river as we type this stuff.

wonder how many BIG FISH you all are promoting at this very moment that are fucking you in the ass laughing about it.

things that make you go...............

yep, the 'big fish' who got to the top largely on the backs of affiliates are now walking all over them (moreso) because they feel its all a part of the adult industry food chain. pathetic.

You never contacted me about your blog, Stephen told me

I'm calling you out, let's meet in Vegas and we can talk about your slander!

I told ya you better have thick skin....apparently you dont...all you want to do is shoot it out best I can figure.

See what happens when ya get yerself caught with yer hand in the cookie jar?

and for the record...I have not yet BEGUN to shine the light on you in ways that will piss you off. Remember Satire is protected free speech. I aint quite ready to go there with you, I mean in all of this you are little more than one of Helmy's lovers or houseboy or whatever...in other other words not worth the effort....yet.

GFY rules
3. Anything goes, except do not post people's personal information, or attack people personally, stick to the issues. Also don't post links to illegal sites. And WHOIS information is public info, it is not considered personal information. So don't bitch at us if you put your home address as your personal info on WHOIS. Calling someone a Pedo, Refferring to them as a Pedo, post Pedo links, and Death Threats are now grounds for immediate banning.

I havent attacked you personally here matter of fact i stepped up and said I didnt want you rebuked as a mod...my attacks will come on my site where they are more relevant

Now what are the GFY rules on threats of violence?

all this aside this is getting off topic...its about .xxx not you and I

lets get it back there

where on GFY do you see threats of violence?

This sounds like a threat!

For those that missed Alec's reply on the other thread,

"I do not support .XXX because of the various concerns and unknowns already discussed on the boards.

Should it get approved, it'll be best to try to influence its direction - and not for financial gains."

Alecs Reply rings hollow

I have very good evidence that he is accepting money from ICMRegistry

Time will tell. If he is being honest I would urge him to help block its passage, which isn't nearly as imminent as he proclaims.

Matter of fact things are shaping up to make it a very costly battle for supporters.

I have had LOTS of support on this including from big advertisers who claim to be pulling ads from XBiz or not renewing ads...thats the way to go, hit them where it hurts, it's also why Alec has finally stepped forward.

Remember y'all actions speak louder than words.

Well, as XBiz has refused to accept advertising dollars from Lawley, doesn't that speak pretty loud?

I hope so.

Ya know what puzzles me the most....why did it come to this? This could have been settled 2 days ago with a simple honest answer.

Because according to Stephen, Alec is too busy making money to be bothered by us little people (im paraphrasing) I guess typing 3 letters into a board is too much work lol Why should he have to answer,they have forgotten the little people read their magazine, buy tickets to their shows. Fuckin A he should of been the first to answer.

if anyone wants to follow stephen's rabbit hole:
http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/000056.html

http://news.com.com/2100-1032_3-5086101.html

http://www.eff.org/Infrastructure/DN..._gone_wild.php

SiteFinder is the service that Network Solutions brought out and took down that does exactly this.


Fight the light at the end of the tunnel!

It came to this because your an impatient asshole that calls names, stomps your feet and rags to everyone until you get what you want. Well you got Alec to answer, but we're not done yet!

At least your threats here arent direct...yawn.

So... is there a date set to take a deposition from Alec yet? :1orglaugh

We can start at age four and work thru all medical conditions, financial transactions, business career, associations with any/all organizations, personal relationships and call 400 character witnesses and, of course, get a sperm count and DNA sample.

After that, three months worth of intensive investigatory work should establish at least some fact that will hopefully kill a few suspicions :winkwink:

I aint stompin my feet...Im standing my ground....big diff remember I told you not to dish it out if you cant take it...so stop stomping your feet and whining and suck it up buttercup

Once again, all for greed and money. Kinda sounds like the same scam this lawley asshole is pulling.

Like I said earlier it seems to be all horse shit and window dressing!