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OMG I wish I would've not even clicked on that because I'm tears. That is the most horrible thing ever, other than Paris Hilton making porn. Terrible. How can someone even work there and be a part of that? Um, that was just fucked up.
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Horrible way to kill them. If you can't stop the killing, at least find a more decent way ot kill them. Hit them over the head or something like they do to cows.Comment
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Well stated.Thats just wrong plain and simple. Anytime you kill something and let it just suffer while it dies is wrong.
I'm not saying its wrong to hunt and kill. Thats nature to kill and eat. But to sit there and watch it suffer and sufficate and bleed to death is FUCKING WRONG.
Why don't they just chop the entire head off so the poor animal doesn't have to sit there in pain and dye a slow death?Comment
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Welcome to "civilization"....
The subject matter may be dolphins in Japan, but could be another species elsewhere - the effect remains the same.
We may not like sharks as much as dolphins (the "cuddly appeal" is absent), but regularly see the same with shark carcasses. Their fins are hacked off and they are dumped into the ocean again. By the time we see them, most are dead, but have come across a couple making last attempts to swim, but they have no chance in hell. The fins are used for sharkfin soup. Is it illegal? Sure, but that never stopped "civilization"... and this is not on the Japanese side of the Pacific ocean.
Tapirs? Despite being shy and harmless creatures, they get shot by rednecks exercising their macho tendencies and pretending to be "big game hunters" - with AK47's of course.
Monkeys? Sure, monkeys are an easy target for idiots with weapons. The irony is that monkey families have more clue of a social order than the idiots who shoot them. Last time we found three dead monkeys shot for fun - kinda sad seeing these lifeless bodies.
Maybe it's time to stick some lead in the ass of the next "big game hunters"
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my father is a brown bear guide in alaska and i grew up with "professional hunters" and big game hunters from all over the world. probably 1/2 of the hunters who went on brown bear hunts with them were europeans... of those, at least 1/2 were austrians and germans.
i used to hunt quite a bit... but one time my father went on a Buffalo hunt in Montana and ended up shooting a buffalo that was 3rd in the record books. basically they just chased it in a ford bronco across the prairy until it could't run anymore and shot it. i had to walk into our house everyday with this big fucking buffalo head mounted on the wall next to the door. its hard to imagine the size ... but imagine someone taking a huge refrigerator/freezer and mounting it to your wall lengthwise. that was the first time when i really stopped and gave serious thought to how totally retarded hunting was if you are not going to eat the animal. brown bears are shot for the hide only. i dont know what it costs today, but it used to be 15-20K just for the hunt itself ... not including all the other costs (transportation there, room and board, the taxidermy fees etc) .. and they were shot for no other reason than to just be able to say "yeah, i went to alaska and shot this. we were walking through the brush, i heard a noise and looked up and this huge brown bear was charging us, snorting and growling and trying to kill us.. i shot it and it died at my feet - we were so lucky" ... which is the standard story.
at about 21, i sold every single gun i had. 1000's of dollars worth of hand guns, shotguns, rifles, assault rifles etc because all of the sudden it all left a bad taste in my mouth.
it just seemed rediculous to kill something you don't intend to eat... even more rediculous to kill something with a rifle just to have the right to tell other people that you killed it. it really did kind of make me sick.
but killing a dolphin for food? sure, they are cute. but in this case, they are cute food. its not like they were tortured for 6 weeks and then slowly executed... for fun. being driven somewhere in a truck and having your throat slit so you blood is pumped out of your body in 5-6 heart beats isn't exactly "inhumane" in my opinion. there is no good way to die.
the very sad thing about fucking white people is that you care about a seal... you care about a dolphin. it just makes you sick to see one hurt. it makes you puke... you just can't watch.. you are angry... BUT you don't give a shit if 2,000,000 africans are butchered. you could care less if 300K people have died in Darfur. you don't give a fuck what other attrocities are being committed around the globe and how much people are suffering and how many die. You don't give a fuck if your 20,000.00 diamond engagement ring bought AK-47's for 10 year old child soldiers to keep fighting. That my friends is hypocrisy at its finest. its pathetic. its sick. its misguided and i think it can be safely argued that allowing 5 year old kids to get their arms and legs hacked off while their parents are tortured, raped and shot, is a lot fucking worse than what can happen to a stupid fucking fish.
people get so fucking emotional about an animal. how many people have you helped? how much actual suffering and pain have you alleived in your life? how many little girls who needed a new liver or heart did you help save or pay for an operation? how many starving children do you sponsor? ... NONE. but jesus... don't kill an animal... thats wrong. thats worth fighting for.
give me a fucking break. i have never understood why white people hate people and love animals... and then talk about "inhumane behaviors"Comment
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Are you retarded? One is a mammal. The other is a fish. They are not the same.So it's known as a dolphin thru-out the world but it's not a "dolphin" because it didn't get it's own american television series in the 60's called Flipper.
So since the TV show made all these mainland hoales fall in love with the "dolphin" nothing else that was a dolphin before can still be called that because nobody in Hawaii wants you to think you are eating Flipper.
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my father is a brown bear guide in alaska and i grew up with "professional hunters" and big game hunters from all over the world. probably 1/2 of the hunters who went on brown bear hunts with them were europeans... of those, at least 1/2 were austrians and germans.
i used to hunt quite a bit... but one time my father went on a Buffalo hunt in Montana and ended up shooting a buffalo that was 3rd in the record books. basically they just chased it in a ford bronco across the prairy until it could't run anymore and shot it. i had to walk into our house everyday with this big fucking buffalo head mounted on the wall next to the door. its hard to imagine the size ... but imagine someone taking a huge refrigerator/freezer and mounting it to your wall lengthwise. that was the first time when i really stopped and gave serious thought to how totally retarded hunting was if you are not going to eat the animal. brown bears are shot for the hide only. i dont know what it costs today, but it used to be 15-20K just for the hunt itself ... not including all the other costs (transportation there, room and board, the taxidermy fees etc) .. and they were shot for no other reason than to just be able to say "yeah, i went to alaska and shot this. we were walking through the brush, i heard a noise and looked up and this huge brown bear was charging us, snorting and growling and trying to kill us.. i shot it and it died at my feet - we were so lucky" ... which is the standard story.
at about 21, i sold every single gun i had. 1000's of dollars worth of hand guns, shotguns, rifles, assault rifles etc because all of the sudden it all left a bad taste in my mouth.
it just seemed rediculous to kill something you don't intend to eat... even more rediculous to kill something with a rifle just to have the right to tell other people that you killed it. it really did kind of make me sick.
but killing a dolphin for food? sure, they are cute. but in this case, they are cute food. its not like they were tortured for 6 weeks and then slowly executed... for fun. being driven somewhere in a truck and having your throat slit so you blood is pumped out of your body in 5-6 heart beats isn't exactly "inhumane" in my opinion. there is no good way to die.
the very sad thing about fucking white people is that you care about a seal... you care about a dolphin. it just makes you sick to see one hurt. it makes you puke... you just can't watch.. you are angry... BUT you don't give a shit if 2,000,000 africans are butchered. you could care less if 300K people have died in Darfur. you don't give a fuck what other attrocities are being committed around the globe and how much people are suffering and how many die. You don't give a fuck if your 20,000.00 diamond engagement ring bought AK-47's for 10 year old child soldiers to keep fighting. That my friends is hypocrisy at its finest. its pathetic. its sick. its misguided and i think it can be safely argued that allowing 5 year old kids to get their arms and legs hacked off while their parents are tortured, raped and shot, is a lot fucking worse than what can happen to a stupid fucking fish.
people get so fucking emotional about an animal. how many people have you helped? how much actual suffering and pain have you alleived in your life? how many little girls who needed a new liver or heart did you help save or pay for an operation? how many starving children do you sponsor? ... NONE. but jesus... don't kill an animal... thats wrong. thats worth fighting for.
give me a fucking break. i have never understood why white people hate people and love animals... and then talk about "inhumane behaviors"
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black bear is great. i have shot and ate a lot of black bears. brown bear tastes like absolute shit. i have never thought much about why, basically their diets are the same in most areas... but in others, they do a lot of scavaging on beaches etc so that might be why. but my point was that people don't shoot them for meat or to take the meat or use them in any other way. they shoot them for the skin and leave it where it dies, taking only the skin (and gall bladder as much as any will deny it)Last edited by Pleasurepays; 01-26-2007, 09:00 PM.Comment
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You sir are an idiot !
So because i maybe haven't saved the life of some African person (fuck knows how i'm meant to do that), i'm not allowed to give a shit about watching animals getting slaughtered ??
Many people die every day in the world.
Many animals die every day in the world.
There's not much i can do about either. However, when someone posts a video of it, it pisses me off. And thats basically what we are saying on here.
There's idiots like you who always go off on these rants in these types of threads saying shit like you are saying now about not caring as much about humans as animals etc.
What gives humans the right to act like assholes, simply because we can ? And why should animals suffer because of this ??
Please stop posting in this one, because you clearly are full of shit...
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Are you serious? What the hell does any of that have to do with the video that was posted? I'll bet you $10K that if a video was posted showing a family in africa getting killed or raped or whatever, everyone here would post how disgusting that is and how fucked up our society is. The point is ITS ALL WRONG. You go in this rant for no reason. I get emotional everytime I see something that is in my opinion wrong. Whether its a cow getting its nexk sliced open and left to bleed to death, or a seal getting clubbed or innocent people getting gased by their government or whatever. This is about getting mad at the things that happen in our world that shouldn't happen in our world. Killing just to kill, whether its a human or an animal is wrong.my father is a brown bear guide in alaska and i grew up with "professional hunters" and big game hunters from all over the world. probably 1/2 of the hunters who went on brown bear hunts with them were europeans... of those, at least 1/2 were austrians and germans.
i used to hunt quite a bit... but one time my father went on a Buffalo hunt in Montana and ended up shooting a buffalo that was 3rd in the record books. basically they just chased it in a ford bronco across the prairy until it could't run anymore and shot it. i had to walk into our house everyday with this big fucking buffalo head mounted on the wall next to the door. its hard to imagine the size ... but imagine someone taking a huge refrigerator/freezer and mounting it to your wall lengthwise. that was the first time when i really stopped and gave serious thought to how totally retarded hunting was if you are not going to eat the animal. brown bears are shot for the hide only. i dont know what it costs today, but it used to be 15-20K just for the hunt itself ... not including all the other costs (transportation there, room and board, the taxidermy fees etc) .. and they were shot for no other reason than to just be able to say "yeah, i went to alaska and shot this. we were walking through the brush, i heard a noise and looked up and this huge brown bear was charging us, snorting and growling and trying to kill us.. i shot it and it died at my feet - we were so lucky" ... which is the standard story.
at about 21, i sold every single gun i had. 1000's of dollars worth of hand guns, shotguns, rifles, assault rifles etc because all of the sudden it all left a bad taste in my mouth.
it just seemed rediculous to kill something you don't intend to eat... even more rediculous to kill something with a rifle just to have the right to tell other people that you killed it. it really did kind of make me sick.
but killing a dolphin for food? sure, they are cute. but in this case, they are cute food. its not like they were tortured for 6 weeks and then slowly executed... for fun. being driven somewhere in a truck and having your throat slit so you blood is pumped out of your body in 5-6 heart beats isn't exactly "inhumane" in my opinion. there is no good way to die.
the very sad thing about fucking white people is that you care about a seal... you care about a dolphin. it just makes you sick to see one hurt. it makes you puke... you just can't watch.. you are angry... BUT you don't give a shit if 2,000,000 africans are butchered. you could care less if 300K people have died in Darfur. you don't give a fuck what other attrocities are being committed around the globe and how much people are suffering and how many die. You don't give a fuck if your 20,000.00 diamond engagement ring bought AK-47's for 10 year old child soldiers to keep fighting. That my friends is hypocrisy at its finest. its pathetic. its sick. its misguided and i think it can be safely argued that allowing 5 year old kids to get their arms and legs hacked off while their parents are tortured, raped and shot, is a lot fucking worse than what can happen to a stupid fucking fish.
people get so fucking emotional about an animal. how many people have you helped? how much actual suffering and pain have you alleived in your life? how many little girls who needed a new liver or heart did you help save or pay for an operation? how many starving children do you sponsor? ... NONE. but jesus... don't kill an animal... thats wrong. thats worth fighting for.
give me a fucking break. i have never understood why white people hate people and love animals... and then talk about "inhumane behaviors"
When it comes to animals, one should kill only to eat. When it comes to humans, one should only kill in self defense.
P.S. I have sponsored a child before, I have donated money to WWF and no thats not wrestling. And I have done what I can to get hunters to see that what they are doing is not a sport but just murder.
Get off your political stand and start posting things that have to do with the thread.
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I missed your warning and now feel so bad!!!!!
This is horrable. I will search for a joke thread now.
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But in this day and age, meat is NOT an essential part of the human diet. We have developed foods that supply us the same minerals and vitamins that meats provide, just in vegetarian foods.
Sorry man... he's no hippy... he just made a choice about the foods he wishes to consume. I'm not a vegetarian but I think what you just said was out of order.
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I agree with you its like tortureThats just wrong plain and simple. Anytime you kill something and let it just suffer while it dies is wrong.
I'm not saying its wrong to hunt and kill. Thats nature to kill and eat. But to sit there and watch it suffer and sufficate and bleed to death is FUCKING WRONG.
Why don't they just chop the entire head off so the poor animal doesn't have to sit there in pain and dye a slow death?Comment
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people pretend to care. people pretend to be outraged and upset. they do it to feel better about themselves as they go on about their day eating Doritos, drinking pepsi, playing Halo and getting fatter. the world is full of bigger tragedy and suffering and more important problems than how animals are butchered for food.Are you serious? What the hell does any of that have to do with the video that was posted? I'll bet you $10K that if a video was posted showing a family in africa getting killed or raped or whatever, everyone here would post how disgusting that is and how fucked up our society is. The point is ITS ALL WRONG. You go in this rant for no reason. I get emotional everytime I see something that is in my opinion wrong. Whether its a cow getting its nexk sliced open and left to bleed to death, or a seal getting clubbed or innocent people getting gased by their government or whatever. This is about getting mad at the things that happen in our world that shouldn't happen in our world. Killing just to kill, whether its a human or an animal is wrong.
When it comes to animals, one should kill only to eat. When it comes to humans, one should only kill in self defense.
P.S. I have sponsored a child before, I have donated money to WWF and no thats not wrestling. And I have done what I can to get hunters to see that what they are doing is not a sport but just murder.
Get off your political stand and start posting things that have to do with the thread.
and your wrong. the world sees videos all the time on CNN and elsewhere of wholesale genocide. Rwanda was the best example... 2,000,000 men, women and children being butchered to death... piles of little kids arms and legs etc etc.. and it barely makes the news. The UN wouldn't even call it genocide because that would have meant getting involved by law. people don't give a fuck when its actual people suffering... people don't give a fuck when they are watching news reports of Darfur and people being raped and tortured and killed daily. people don't care when Somalians are starving to death, UN aid is going to warlords. people don't care when their engagement ring kills little kids in Sierra Leone... but god forbid... god forbid some dolphins get killed for food in Japan. now thats serious. thats a REAL problem. we need to get right on that. we need to boycott Japan because God knows... the Emporor will be forced to send letters like "dear gallery submitter, please buy more CD players.. your sadly pathetic and symbolic fake protest, feel good boycott is destroying one of the largest economies on the planet".Comment
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First problem is that you are generalizing everyone in one group. Sure there are people that don't give a fuck but there are plenty of people that do. Why do you think there are so many support groups and support aids? There are people all over the world that see these horrible events and DO something about it. Where do you get off mother fucking everyone? I don't sit around playing Halo and eating doritos and getting fat. I'm quite the opposite. I run marathons and eat healthy. I get just as upset when I see people suffering as I do when I see animals suffering.people pretend to care. people pretend to be outraged and upset. they do it to feel better about themselves as they go on about their day eating Doritos, drinking pepsi, playing Halo and getting fatter. the world is full of bigger tragedy and suffering and more important problems than how animals are butchered for food.
and your wrong. the world sees videos all the time on CNN and elsewhere of wholesale genocide. Rwanda was the best example... 2,000,000 men, women and children being butchered to death... piles of little kids arms and legs etc etc.. and it barely makes the news. The UN wouldn't even call it genocide because that would have meant getting involved by law. people don't give a fuck when its actual people suffering... people don't give a fuck when they are watching news reports of Darfur and people being raped and tortured and killed daily. people don't care when Somalians are starving to death, UN aid is going to warlords. people don't care when their engagement ring kills little kids in Sierra Leone... but god forbid... god forbid some dolphins get killed for food in Japan. now thats serious. thats a REAL problem. we need to get right on that. we need to boycott Japan because God knows... the Emporor will be forced to send letters like "dear gallery submitter, please buy more CD players.. your sadly pathetic and symbolic fake protest, feel good boycott is destroying one of the largest economies on the planet".
The point is that there are some things that shouldn't be done or they should be done differently. I'll get pissed off all day when I see videos like this. Just like I get pissed off when I see seals being clubbed or cattle getting their necks sliced open. I don't care if its cute or ugly. I don't even kill bugs in my house, I catch them and put them outside. So stop assuming that I am one of those people that don't give a fuck about the other problems in our world. I have a heart and I do care and I do things about it.
What do you do? Besides rant on a chatboard about how everyone is a fat dorito eater?
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where did i say "you" do anything?
i am generalizing, because in general, its true. in general, white people care less about people than they do animals. in general, white people don't mind seeing people suffer and can't stand seeing an animal suffer - even when its being killed for food. in general, its hypocritical to use words like "humane" and "civilized" when talking about killing an animal for food... when people are dying all over the place, all day long... day in and day out and they can be helped.Comment
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You want to know why "most" people care more about animals than people? Its because animals are helpless, they keep to themselves and they don't destroy rainforests, or slutter other animals for fun, or torture or any of the other cruel things that "humans" do. Animals just want to live their own lives and they don't fuck with others the way people do.where did i say "you" do anything?
i am generalizing, because in general, its true. in general, white people care less about people than they do animals. in general, white people don't mind seeing people suffer and can't stand seeing an animal suffer - even when its being killed for food. in general, its hypocritical to use words like "humane" and "civilized" when talking about killing an animal for food... when people are dying all over the place, all day long... day in and day out and they can be helped.
And there is a humane way of hunting and killing for food. Slicing open their neck and letting them bleed to death is just WRONG and so is raping women and killing children. Anyone that does these types of things is wrong and should pay for it.
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Call me stupid, but really don't care about the people the way i am worried about the animals, that can not defend themselves.my father is a brown bear guide in alaska and i grew up with "professional hunters" and big game hunters from all over the world. probably 1/2 of the hunters who went on brown bear hunts with them were europeans... of those, at least 1/2 were austrians and germans.
i used to hunt quite a bit... but one time my father went on a Buffalo hunt in Montana and ended up shooting a buffalo that was 3rd in the record books. basically they just chased it in a ford bronco across the prairy until it could't run anymore and shot it. i had to walk into our house everyday with this big fucking buffalo head mounted on the wall next to the door. its hard to imagine the size ... but imagine someone taking a huge refrigerator/freezer and mounting it to your wall lengthwise. that was the first time when i really stopped and gave serious thought to how totally retarded hunting was if you are not going to eat the animal. brown bears are shot for the hide only. i dont know what it costs today, but it used to be 15-20K just for the hunt itself ... not including all the other costs (transportation there, room and board, the taxidermy fees etc) .. and they were shot for no other reason than to just be able to say "yeah, i went to alaska and shot this. we were walking through the brush, i heard a noise and looked up and this huge brown bear was charging us, snorting and growling and trying to kill us.. i shot it and it died at my feet - we were so lucky" ... which is the standard story.
at about 21, i sold every single gun i had. 1000's of dollars worth of hand guns, shotguns, rifles, assault rifles etc because all of the sudden it all left a bad taste in my mouth.
it just seemed rediculous to kill something you don't intend to eat... even more rediculous to kill something with a rifle just to have the right to tell other people that you killed it. it really did kind of make me sick.
but killing a dolphin for food? sure, they are cute. but in this case, they are cute food. its not like they were tortured for 6 weeks and then slowly executed... for fun. being driven somewhere in a truck and having your throat slit so you blood is pumped out of your body in 5-6 heart beats isn't exactly "inhumane" in my opinion. there is no good way to die.
the very sad thing about fucking white people is that you care about a seal... you care about a dolphin. it just makes you sick to see one hurt. it makes you puke... you just can't watch.. you are angry... BUT you don't give a shit if 2,000,000 africans are butchered. you could care less if 300K people have died in Darfur. you don't give a fuck what other attrocities are being committed around the globe and how much people are suffering and how many die. You don't give a fuck if your 20,000.00 diamond engagement ring bought AK-47's for 10 year old child soldiers to keep fighting. That my friends is hypocrisy at its finest. its pathetic. its sick. its misguided and i think it can be safely argued that allowing 5 year old kids to get their arms and legs hacked off while their parents are tortured, raped and shot, is a lot fucking worse than what can happen to a stupid fucking fish.
people get so fucking emotional about an animal. how many people have you helped? how much actual suffering and pain have you alleived in your life? how many little girls who needed a new liver or heart did you help save or pay for an operation? how many starving children do you sponsor? ... NONE. but jesus... don't kill an animal... thats wrong. thats worth fighting for.
give me a fucking break. i have never understood why white people hate people and love animals... and then talk about "inhumane behaviors"Comment
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your views on animals are simply a wrong and utopianistic view that contradicts reality. plenty of animals kill for fun, for territory, for food. plenty of animals will eat their own offspring. even a beloved cat will torture a mouse for hours before killing it... often without eating it or intent of eating it. animals are animals. but thats ok. cats are cute and we give them a little leaway... and the mice, well... lets be honest, not so cute really when they are hiding under your refrigerator.You want to know why "most" people care more about animals than people? Its because animals are helpless, they keep to themselves and they don't destroy rainforests, or slutter other animals for fun, or torture or any of the other cruel things that "humans" do. Animals just want to live their own lives and they don't fuck with others the way people do.
And there is a humane way of hunting and killing for food. Slicing open their neck and letting them bleed to death is just WRONG and so is raping women and killing children. Anyone that does these types of things is wrong and should pay for it.
although you might find it distasteful to see a dolphins throat slit... causing it to lose consciousness and die in seconds.. what would you suggest as being the perfect way to kill a dolphin? play some soft music, feed it herring, pet it telling it everything will be fine while someone sneaks up behind it with a shotgun and blow its brains out? dead is dead. as was already and quite logically pointed out... there is no good way to die. the end result is always undesirable to the one being processed for food. the means are never appealing to anyone.Comment
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So i take it you won't mind how you die then, and how much you suffer during this ?? You know, since dead is dead...although you might find it distasteful to see a dolphins throat slit... causing it to lose consciousness and die in seconds.. what would you suggest as being the perfect way to kill a dolphin?
dead is dead. as was already and quite logically pointed out... there is no good way to die.
Yeah right...
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