fuck they should do that too like they do with mult. dui offenders in cali. if you are getting welfare you are not allowed anything

volunteer work, rehab and drug testing for welfare. makes sense, but perhaps a little idealist.

I think its a very good idea

i am against drug tests across the board.

i think it is ridiculous that something you do in your free time could cause you to lose your job.

if i go home after a long day of work, smoke a joint, and then come in the next day to get drug tested, and get fired, that is just bullshit.

if they are going to do that, they should start firing everyone who has beers after they get off work.

now if the drugs interfere with your ability to work i don't see a problem with testing, the potentially firing them, but randomly is just bullshit. if it is not effecting your job performance i don't think it is neccesary.

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i don't think drug tests are the answer to helping reform our welfare system, it is a much more complex problem than that.

I agree with you 100%, smack, but going to the mailbox once a month and saying "Hello, check!" ain't a job.

All this would do is turn all welfare drug addicts into alcoholics or homeless. just what we need..

Facts are i'm sure alot more people spend cash on drugs who ARENT on welfare..

They should drug test me when i pay my taxes and if i'm high on drugs they should refuse to take my taxes..

why doesn't the government do that? seriously. make these people work the 15 or whatever hours a week they're pretty much getting paid for.
Unless they're physically disabled. then make them work for the money in some way.

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If they want privacy rights they can get a job.

How so??

The beauty of it is that they get to vote too. I know I'm going to be hated on this, but IMO, if you don't pay taxes, you don't get to vote into office those who decide how tax revenue is going to be spent.

Now they have debit cards in GA, but when I was working in a small store in college that took food stamps, we always had people who would come in and buy 10 cents worth of stuff, you have to give anything less than $1 back in change in real money, so they'd do it several times a day, then just happen to have $$$ for beer and cigarettes - all in coins of course ;)

smoking joints is illegal, drinking beers is not.

with that said, if someone is too lazy to work and wants free money from the government, they shouldnt be allowed to drink OR smoke weed.

a loan is not a free hand out, and it also says "hey, I'm a productive member of society"

welfare is a hand out, plain and simple.

also, they stopped giving gov't college loans to kids who have drugs violations on their records

If you can afford drugs, you can afford to not be on welfare.

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Yeah, the main reason many of them get high is to ease the depression from being poor. :(

See, buy a $20 bag of weed from the dealer who is not on welfare and you role a joint from the bag. Then you sell the bag for $20 to some middle class dude in a red cammaro who don't know any drug dealers.
Repeat the cycle for the next joint. After you cycle 10 times the dealer will like you and give you a free bag when you buy the next $20.

You never make any money or actually spend any, but you're always high.

This is correct. Either that or they suffer from health issues they self-medicate with drugs and alcohol. Who can blame them.

As much as people don't want to hear it, the answer to welfare is sterilization or at least long term birth control. You can't collect welfare or other government programs unless you have children in most cases.

Very few of the children being raised in poverty actually grow up to lift themselves out of poverty and this exponentially creates even more miserable people who can't take care of themselves; population grows exponentially.

Drug tests are not going to solve the problem, sex without birth control is not a drug addiction that can be "tested" for. :1orglaugh

How do I get this "welfare" you speak of?

After all, what I do is not work. I should be subsidized.

that right there is a job, people on welfare dont like jobs.

A job would be a much better remedy.

Sure would be better.

I'm amazed that people believe there are enough jobs to go around.

The guy who was selling "Help Wanted" signs went out of business a few years back; sales were way down.

Absolutely. Especially when it goes like "enter a no-bid contract and get billions of tax dollars for doing virtually nothing"

Wait many farmers would pass piss tests and still get money for shit that does not need to be grown.

agreed, but drug tests aren't going to stop that. there needs to be a comprehensive welfare reform movement. that program ABSOLUTELY must be there to help those who need it. they just need to figure out a better way to rid the system of abuse.

the only reason beer isn't illegal is because it is socially acceptable. but that is a whole other thread.

and you have a very skewed view of welfare. most people who recieve welfare are not too lazy to work, they just need some help when they are down on their luck. nothing wrong with that at all. that is why the system is there to being with.

and i still maintain that what people do behind closed doors is their own buisness as long as it doesn't effect their employer.

not all people have to pay for their drugs. many times they are offered for free at parties or from friends. ;)

oh don't even get me started on the farming subsidies in this country. :winkwink:

there is always money for drugs/smokes/booze no matter how broke you are

Reminds me of an old expression:

Times with weed and no money are easier than times with money and no weed.

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