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Old 01-17-2007, 11:48 PM   #1
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Is a design business worth anything without the designer?

Is a design business worth anything without the designer?

Lets say you have a well established adult design company with a good portfolio, good URL and is consistently in the top 3 spots for some nice search engine terms.

Would that be worth anything?
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Old 01-18-2007, 12:33 AM   #2
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That's tough. It's a design business, right?
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Old 01-18-2007, 12:36 AM   #3
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It's worth something, but I would imagine not much....
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Old 01-18-2007, 12:36 AM   #4
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probably not since the designer(s) took off. The portfolio wasn't done by the website, it was done by the now gone designer(s)
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it would be worth at least a referral commission to a firm that could perform at the level of the portfolio
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Old 01-18-2007, 01:13 AM   #6
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throw it up for sale and see what sort of reaction you get
i mean shit ppl will buy anything , just look at ebay for that
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Old 01-18-2007, 01:14 AM   #7
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Are you asking if the domain name would have value, yes.
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Old 01-18-2007, 02:55 AM   #8
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you mean kind of like ss-art.net and how the designer took off with all our money and closed the doors?

no, i would say its not worth much if you can no longer take orders and provide the service.
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Old 01-18-2007, 04:20 AM   #9
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Designers know their job so they are very important for the biz...
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:34 AM   #10
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you mean kind of like ss-art.net and how the designer took off with all our money and closed the doors?

no, i would say its not worth much if you can no longer take orders and provide the service.
Not exactly what I meant. The site gets several requests weekly which I am unable to fullfill.
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:44 AM   #11
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Not exactly what I meant. The site gets several requests weekly which I am unable to fullfill.
If that's the problem then outsource some work. Hit me up on ICQ if you need help filling orders. I have plenty on samples.
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:54 AM   #12
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send us the work, we will take care of you...
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:57 AM   #13
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If that's the problem then outsource some work. Hit me up on ICQ if you need help filling orders. I have plenty on samples.
I have tried this too many times and have ALWAYS ended up having to redo the work in the end for 1/2 the cost. No offense to you or your work, but the guys that provide good work for a reasonable price are probably getting as much work as they can handle.

Other than a select few adult clients I'm considering concentrating most of my time and effort on mainstream
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:03 AM   #14
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we may able to help you. contact me if our portfolio interest you. ICQ's messin up for me right now though..
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:25 AM   #15
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portfolio purchase option is also on the table, hit me up....
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:44 AM   #16
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portfolio purchase option is also on the table, hit me up....
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Old 01-18-2007, 06:36 PM   #17
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portfolio purchase option is also on the table, hit me up....
how can you purchase someone else's portfolio?

its meant to be an example of what a specific designer is capable of ... a portfolio belongs to the individual designer, not to a design firm, unless they make a big effort to hire designers with the exact same style every time.

Verbal, it *might* be something you could work out referrals for with someone who has a similar style, but when a client is looking for a designer they want the person who designed the samples ... so you could refer that client but the chances of them using the company you refer them to is low because they may as well just go and look for their own design company.

The domain & seo sounds like its got some value though ... might be better to sell it now while its got some cred left ....
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Old 01-18-2007, 06:47 PM   #18
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Old 01-18-2007, 08:53 PM   #19
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Is a design business worth anything without the designer?

Lets say you have a well established adult design company with a good portfolio, good URL and is consistently in the top 3 spots for some nice search engine terms.

Would that be worth anything?
Yes it would be worth something. Quite a bit if you have a real good reputation and the designers buying your site can match your quality or exceed it.

I run an outsourcing company. While some staffers leave, the overall quality guidelines and expectations do not erode. Preserve your brand, your goodwill, and client base. Whoever will buy from you won't have to start from scratch.

So yes...it's worth something. Quite a bit if your company experience is extensive and has a long client list.

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Old 01-18-2007, 08:58 PM   #20
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how can you purchase someone else's portfolio?

its meant to be an example of what a specific designer is capable of ... a portfolio belongs to the individual designer, not to a design firm, unless they make a big effort to hire designers with the exact same style every time.

Verbal, it *might* be something you could work out referrals for with someone who has a similar style, but when a client is looking for a designer they want the person who designed the samples ... so you could refer that client but the chances of them using the company you refer them to is low because they may as well just go and look for their own design company.

The domain & seo sounds like its got some value though ... might be better to sell it now while its got some cred left ....
You raise some good points. My point above was regarding the goodwill of the business and client base value.
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:25 PM   #21
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probably not since the designer(s) took off. The portfolio wasn't done by the website, it was done by the now gone designer(s)
My thoughts exactly.
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:29 AM   #22
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You can always find additional (quality) designers if the work is there...

The site from a business point of view is still worth money (it generated "x" amount of revenue for "x" amount of time)... from a surfers point of view ... I guess it isn't worth much .
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:36 AM   #24
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exactly.

can you run a car repair shop without mechanics?
a hospital without doctors?
lawn service without mexicans?

what good is a google hit if you can't sell what you advertise?
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:42 AM   #25
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Traffic and reputation have inherent value, but unless you want a lot of work, I'd sell it to an existing design company.

Building a design business just because you've got the traffic and (currently) good reputation seems like lots of work for little return.
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The value comes from the work, the reputation and the credibility. You have branded yourself and the company. If the new company can keep the same customer service, same quality of work and the same reasonable prices. Plus they are getting work from your search engine hits, then your company is worth some pretty good bucks.
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Old 01-24-2007, 01:22 AM   #27
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The value comes from the work, the reputation and the credibility. You have branded yourself and the company. If the new company can keep the same customer service, same quality of work and the same reasonable prices. Plus they are getting work from your search engine hits, then your company is worth some pretty good bucks.
What he said
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