johnpr0n

Well i wasnt giong to bother diong anything about this, as i seem to be scammed on a daily basis, but well fuck it here i am.

I would like to share with everyone my experience in dealing with this guy, the owner of hahahahahahahahahahaha.com - thebutcher.

Now before i go on im sure lots of people are gonna try to defend him.

I would like to point out the last 2 people i called out like this have since disapeared, and i get fucked over all the time but rarley bother diong something about it, so i do not post here lightly.

But well this guy is just too much-

First of all, he swaps me links on 80 of my blogger blogs, for a sticky thread or spot in his forum. So here i spend 2 or 3 hours putting up links for him.

Second he asks me to send him some traffic on credit, so i send him around 30-40k, around 100 bucks worth.

Then last but not least, he asks me to sign up some of my sites to his toplist, so i signed up about 5 to get him giong.

No here is where the good part comes in-

I ask him for the advertising spot which he is supposed to give me, and he tells me its too expensive a spot, so he doesnt want to do that anymore.

Then next i ask for the money for the traffic, im not sure what his answer was but basicly he didnt want to pay for that either.

And then to top it all off, he decides to redirect the toplist to his crappy wm forum.

And just now, i go to his forum, post this message up - he doesnt reply or anything no, he just deletes it. I contacted him a few times and got ignored.

I spent many hours working on this with him, and then get palmed off like its nothing. His tactic is to hide from the problem, ignore it.

What a fucking chump.

johnpr0n

I'm about as bright as a 3-watt bulb. ;)

Juilan

Wow I just checked a link trade with his toplist, and yeah it's redirecting. Seemed like a decent guy.

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Silly Guy

he does seem rather desperate to fuck you over like that

tenderobject

sorry to hear that bro. but he seem to be an ok guy.. well, hope he gets here and defend himself.. goodluck man.

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StuBradley

sounds like a fucking loser.

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baddog

you do realize that posting URL's to other boards is a bannable offense . . right?

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SmokeyTheBear

the first rule of the gfy club is not to post urls of other clubs

I realise your just trying to help/vent but you dont go to burger king to explain how shitty mc'donalds has been treating you.

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JimBarnett

He has not been able to defend himself against the 6000 fake members we found. Nor the bogus contests where one of his fake names wins, fake traffic numbers and countless other scamming techniques he has used.

His site being listed as an xbizaward nominee was the reason we and medium pimpin demanded to be removed from the nomination list.

The guy has been scamming people since day one. I just can't believe anyone still attempts to do business with him and expects not to be scammed. The "real" members he does have are there because he either spammed them on icq, through another board's PM system or email.

And if case you wonder, I do have proof of everything I have mentioned. I just don't want the "other board URL" Nazi's to jump on me for posting the links

TheButcher

Okay listen big boy, this is going to be my one and only reply in this thread so read my post carefully.

We did a link trade, you had your button and hard link on my board and toplist for 5 weeks, I contacted you many times on icq to tekk you after the 4th week I don't want to trade links with you, I left them up for another week. You never replied, when you did it was some story about icq not working or some story.

You even posted that on my board, but unlike you I'm not goingt o put the thread url here. I play by the terms of memebrship on gfy. No posting other boards here. Anyone wants the link icq me.

You have been badgering me for a free banner on my board forever, I told you on many occassions I don't do any free banner deals. Every banner is paid for.

I never asked to buy traffic dude, I did a link trade, yes you joined the toplist, sent in some hits and got back some. There never was a traffic purchase don't make up stories.

I always answe my messages unlike you, you came to me in November asking for some cash I tld you then that what was I paying for? You said you sent some traffic to the toplist , I told you then good, but where you dreamed up the traffic was a purchase beats me. You started again this morning harrassing me on icq if I could pay you $100 then it was $80 I told you what am I supposed to be paying for. You never did reply.

You came to my board wrote a bunch of profanities and a link to this thread. I don't allow links to other boards and it's clearly on the FAQ page, I deleted the link, you decided to repost the message over and over again, so I decided to ban you and stop the childish behaviour.

I suggest you stop the kids stuff, stop making up fairy tales, get a life and not imagine deals that never existed. On all your posts on my board you use a yahoo email address and no url to your "traffic" business. That's not very proffessional, I don't think you'll grow your busienss with a free email addy and no home page. If you have one I never saw it. But creating fake drama on gfy is not the best way to attract attention to your biz.

calmlikeabomb

He has also fucked me over on a software sticky I purchased in the past.

However, I was able to get half of my money back.

That dude is a jackass. I'll never buy another ad spot on his forum.

dig420

yeah so cool of them, that unpaid rentacop work lol

nico-t

jesus christ he exposes a scammer which is useful info for everyone on here, and all some can do is whine about posting the board link.... fucking lame

dig420

you just going to leave greenguy's post unanswered?

JimBarnett

Jim's post Dig And, he knows that I have proof so he usually does leave my posts unanswered. At least he doesn't claim to be the number 1 board behind GFY anymore.

Notice his board has important things hidden. Whois, Members, Member's Birthdays, The Calender...etc. He is a scammer, just not very good at it.

Barefootsies

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?!??!

You can NOT mention the term, "scam", without mentioning Howard Cohen of iMonde...

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JimBarnett

Here we go...his members list until we made it public

http://www.adwaresucks.com/members.html

SmokeyTheBear

You dont complain about mcdonalds at burger king..

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Silly Guy

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Pleasurepays

jesus ... people in this biz are retarded... "help, this known scammer scammed me"

dig420

you don't tell the teacher that Jimmy farted either.

Or are you a silent owner in GFY and nobody knows about it?

tenderobject

man, can you hit me up on icq please

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tenderobject

oh my... im a member there but rarely posts...

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nico-t

that's a really bad comparison that makes absolutely no sense.

kilotoons

I know that guy, and dealt with him business-wise, and I didn't trust him farther than I could throw him.

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Nice to see you Jim!

And good link - what a fucking scammer!

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thebuther sig links to his forum

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BillyHoe

I'm glad someone finally exposed this ass. He makes me ashamed to say I live in Montreal. I've heard so many stories of him screwing people, and he screwed us over too on some traffic scam he going. I've also heard he's got about 20 or 24 aliases on his board so people think it's busy.

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tenderobject

i first thought he is from the UK?

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bjlover

This scamming old pervert has always been a scammer. He has been exposed more times than anyone else I know.

He recently ran a competition, for best poster, got all his members to contribute money and then the competition was won by his fake nick.

He used his fake nick that he uses to fight on his forum, so that he doesnt use his own name, so people think he's a nice guy.

Sad thing is the loosers on there, that gave the money didnt realise.

PS his only real poster is Lawrence conner!

He is a lying, scamming, dirty old piece of shit. Do a search on every real forum out there and see all his stupid theiving lying bullshit.

Fuck even do a search on google for "butcher scammer" and see 100's of links

bjlover

No thats bullshit. He is Canadian. Check out GG & Jim they have the lying old scammer on their radio show. Where he claims all the fake nick on his fake forum were put there by hackers

bjlover

You are a dirty old scamming retard. The sad thing is you old scammer is that you get caught every time.

You are the joke of the adult webmaster world. The only people left posting on your shitty fake forum is Lawrence conner and your own fake nicks

bjlover

What about the butchers own sig. Its being re directed to his own fake shitty forum!

TheButcher

Jim are you mentally retarded or do you have a problem reading English?

I explained the sp called "fake users on my board on your peice of shit board many times, it was a vbulletin issue that I even asked how to fix on the official vbulletin support forum. Here's the thread http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130527
That's not a link to an adult webmaster forum so I assume GFY won't have a problem.

And your bullshit crap about numbers?Do you realize I don't even show how many members, posts, threads I have on my board and who is logged in or not?

I don't need to impress anyone, I run a webmaster business board not an ego trip game.

Now go back to being so desperate as to having to impersonate me on your radio show.

Don't start with your kid shit Jimbo.

bjlover

You dont run anything, apart from a fake forum where all you do is speak to your own fake nicks and where everyone laughs at you. Your only real poster is Lawrence conner and a hand full of newbs.

You are to stupid to scam and should give up. Even google knows you are a scammer you old retard. Go to google and search "thebutcher scammer" and get start at least

I see you have taken off your sig. I hope the mods saw it was linked to your own fake shitty forum and ban you. This is a real webmasters forum, not a home for filthy old retarded scammers

Klen

I just want to say LC is only real poster there.

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bjlover

yes. UK Porn, Richard, Miss Parker, Magix, growers... Infact as many as 6,000. He uses them to win his own fake competitions for anyone stupid enough to donate prizes and to try and scam advertisers that he has a real forum.

BUT EVERY REAL WEBMASTER KNOWS!

SmokeyTheBear

your post was really bad and makes no sense ( 2 can play at this game )

Shouldnt take a genius to figure out the example..



Thus complaining about how crappy you were treated at a different unrelated store makes no sense.

When you have awful service at a restaurant , whom do you/would you complain to ? a different restaurant ?

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pornpf69

I have been warning people about this fucker for about 2 years.....

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Klen

And also what is funny thing he charge advertising with almost same prize as gfy.

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bjlover

The filthy old retard, relies on newbs comming to his forum. He sits on other real forums and sees any new posters and the ICQ's them and begs them to post at his fake shit.

So newbies dont realise what all real webmasters know. That he's a filthy old scamming old retard

bjlover

He has no real advertisers. All those figures are bullshit. He begs people to pay his hosting bill and gives them permanant banners. The rest are made up of affiliate programs and maybe one or two sponsors who dont realise they are being scammed by all his fake users.

georgeyw

oh but you missed the funniest part, the domain is in the guys freakin profile lmao!

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bjlover

Yep, the mods missed that

He had his own shitty fake forum in his sig and just removed it when it was pointed out.

Dirty old theiving retard

lazycash

He's in cahoots with LC, all you need to know about his character.

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bjlover

yep, most people say the butcher is lawrence conner. But I think he is to stupid to be lawrence conner. even lawrence conner wouldnt get caught every time he scams like this dirty old retard