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How the fuck would i know? I dont watch that shit. I think Al Gore is an idiot. Al Gore is to the environment what Al Sharpton is to racism. They need a boogeyman or they become irrelevant.
Making fun of you and your backwards arguments and commentary has nothing to do with supporting Al Gore or watching his movieComment
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No, I assume the ice is in the water. Just because the "sea level" in the glass goes down, does not mean the volume is not going up. The area that the Ice is displacing in the water is not part of the water's volume, that's why it's called displaced, when the ice melts, the ice loses part of it's volume displaces less, and the water gains volume.Comment
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I wasn't talking about volume, god I give up. Since you haven't seen the movie, I'll give you the run down.
There is ice sitting ON TOP of iceland, not in the water. That ice that is not in the water is doing something that some other ice did just before it all slid into the ocean. According to Al Gore, when that Ice that is not yet in the water, slides off of Iceland and into the ocean, it will displace so much of the ocean that it will raise the sea level.
Has nothing to do with the volume of water.Comment
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The only concern of the melting ice that is already in the water is the addition of too much fresh water to the delicate balance between fresh and salt water that create the North Atlantic Current. It has absolutely nothing to do with the rising sea level.
The sea level problem is the ice that sits on top of Iceland. That ice is starting to do something very similar to another body of land based ice that slid into the ocean. Water is melting down and thru, and running underneath the ice. If it breaks off and goes into the ocean, it will raise the sea level.
Stickyretards argument is combining the two into one, which they are not. But, what do you expect from a guy who obviously failed Science & Geology.Last edited by aico; 01-23-2007, 07:01 PM.Comment
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Ignorance is believing that melting ice would not require any rise in temperature on the planet. Or that the rise in temperature would only be in regards to the part of the planet that houses the icecaps.
If ice melts, it means the temperature of our planet has risen. This means that all the water on the planet rises in temperature (even if it's small). That rise will expand the water, thus causing the sea levels to rise. I don't see how this is hard to comprehend.Comment
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dude... seriously... you should stop.
melting ice obviously requires a temperature above freezing. thats hardly the same thing as making a wrong argument that "heated sea water" can eventually increase in volume to offset the difference between the density of fresh water ice and density of sea water to result in a positive net change in sea levels.
fresh water is at its maximum density at just above freezing anyway, i believe. salt water depends on salinityComment
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It's called thermal expansion. It's agreed upon by virtually every major scientist in the world. When the planet increases in temperature, water expands, the sea levels rise. I don't know of any scientist in the world that doesn't believe that. The argument is whether humans are causing the rise in temperatures or whether it's a natural progression of the planet.Comment
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congrats on your google skills. i know what thermal expansion is... oddly and not to my suprise, you were supposedly smart enough to look that up with google.. and yet apparently not smart enough to do the very obvious and look up a table to compare water density at varying temperatures and the density of fresh water ice/sea water to see how retarded your argument is... that argument being that the density of fresh water ice and density of sea water are both less than "heated" (your word) sea water, to explain that melting ice will actually cause sea water levels to rise using the obviously flawed reasoning that to be "melted" it must be "heated".Comment
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Has absolutely nothing to do with it. Just some less intelligent person (and that's putting it mildly) who can't seem to see the movies different points, so he's putting them all together as if they are one. I mean come on, with a mininum of 12 years of schooling and he doesn't know that there is land under the ice in Antartica, you can't really expect him to grasp much of anything from a 2 hour movie.Comment
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No I believe I was trying to point out that the ice shelves have no land under them. You think I was asking questions cause I didnt know the answers already? lol. I asked them to see what all you global environment sheep would respond. So do the ice sheets in the arctic and antarctic work like a normal glacier that expands and extracts during the season? You think if an ice shelf expands far enough from the land base into the ocean that it might split away under its own weight?Comment
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Oh ya, you fooled us all, funny how that's always the reasoning behind your obvious stupidity "I was just trying to fool you"...
Keep pointing out that they don't have land under them, so I can keep pointing out how much of a fucking idiot you are for being 100% wrong.Comment
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You're not arguing with me man, you're arguing with almost every scientist in the world. Have you thought about publishing your findings? Most of these scientists seem to think that thermal expansion is a reason for the rise in sea levels. You should set the record straight with them and their silly lives dedicated to science.
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