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Old 01-19-2007, 08:21 PM   #51
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Old 01-19-2007, 09:04 PM   #52
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This was posted on the (adult forum url removed) board by Howard, the agent who is said to know the identity of this alleged model:

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OK everyone.. I just got wind of all of this......2 issues... #1 there are only a few studios that test....#2 I am NOT associated with Cash Models and #3 I supplied NO models for ANY shoots in Vegas at all...My guys were there to DANCE at ChiChi;s party and at Hustlaball which they did........and did a VERY good job of. I am not sure of who Mike South is or what his association to any of my competitors or studios I dont deal with (CSH and CV), but everyone that knows me, knows I deal FAIR AND SQUARE... this is too small of a community to play games and MY GUYS are more importamt to me than a few buck here or there.. I am hurt and saddened by this bit of BS...but the guys on the boards that know me, and the studios that know me, know I wouldnt risk my guys in ANY of the Unsafe crap... Wow...deep stuff whoever this Mike South guy is,,,,,,, I handle GAY models, yes every now and then a Straight one.. but all testing is done by BioCollections on my Straight Models.

Whoever started this thread of the GFY board is obviously someone who is very upset


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Seems odd that Howard is so defensive with the above statement. Who knows maybe he told his dancers not fuck for money and one did; thus the warning from Mike South

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Old 01-19-2007, 09:28 PM   #53
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like I said my details are sketchy this would all be MUCH simpler if the identity of this person was simply released so that anyone who may have worked with him can take measures and anyone who didn't can rest easy. If Howard knows who this is he can end all of this with one name, its the responsible thing to do.

Till then nobody knows who has been exposed and who hasn't, if I knew or if I find out I will make that info public.
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Old 01-19-2007, 09:52 PM   #54
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wow.. better be safe than sorry.. blood testing should be done atleast twice a year imo.
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Old 01-19-2007, 10:52 PM   #55
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like I said my details are sketchy this would all be MUCH simpler if the identity of this person was simply released so that anyone who may have worked with him can take measures and anyone who didn't can rest easy. If Howard knows who this is he can end all of this with one name, its the responsible thing to do.

Till then nobody knows who has been exposed and who hasn't, if I knew or if I find out I will make that info public.

Better to tell the truth now.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:46 PM   #56
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Till then nobody knows who has been exposed and who hasn't, if I knew or if I find out I will make that info public.
But that would be the responsible thing to do, and we both know that "responsible" and this industry do not go hand in hand.

Could it be that they are waiting on a confirmation with a Western Blot before they make it public, to avoid the embarrassment of a false positive?
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:56 PM   #57
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I asked that and was told that the Western Blot had already confirmed the positive result, I would never have run the story otherwise.

See I tries to do da right thing
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Old 01-20-2007, 12:24 AM   #58
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ouch. that sucks...
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Old 01-20-2007, 12:31 AM   #59
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Bump. HIV sucks. Hope nobody got it.
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Old 01-20-2007, 12:51 AM   #60
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I asked that and was told that the Western Blot had already confirmed the positive result, I would never have run the story otherwise.

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I figured as much.

It really is a shame AVN and XBIX do not have this story on the front page to warn anyone who may have worked with this person. Lives are at risk, end of story.
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Old 01-20-2007, 01:13 AM   #61
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Old 01-20-2007, 02:13 AM   #62
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I figured as much.

It really is a shame AVN and XBIX do not have this story on the front page to warn anyone who may have worked with this person. Lives are at risk, end of story.
It really is considering I personally contacted Paul Fishbein and gave him what I had on the story. He said they were short staffed but they would get someone right on it, which I am sure they did.

I hope they can get more info than I did.
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:33 AM   #63
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Fuck, i hope someone can get this out on all the sites if this is tru and if so i really would like to know who this person is. I personally didnt work with nay male talent from fl while in vegas but i may have worked with someone that worked with someoen that did, this sukcks, hope its just a fasle statement, im freaked dont think ill be shooting for a while
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Old 01-20-2007, 06:33 AM   #64
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Old 01-20-2007, 11:23 AM   #65
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I'm not sure why a few here are coming down on Mike for giving the heads up...it's not like he mentioned anyone's name and falsely accused anyone of having HIV.

He's merely stating what he heard and come on now, isn't it better to be safe then sorry? Sheesh, you'd think that this day in age one would be greatful for a bit of a heads up. It's not like it hasn't happened in this industry before.

I doub't anyone will lose business over this, but it may cause some to be a bit more cautious and diligent when dealing with talent.

Lighten up.
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Old 01-20-2007, 11:31 AM   #66
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Its actually a little more than what I heard....I won't run a story like this without some verification. I heard it from and confirmed it with 2 different people to start with.

Second, to the best of my ability I confirmed that the positive status had been confirmed by the western blot, that was in fact my first move.

Third you have to consider the overall reliability of a source, while its arguable that one source might have had an axe to grind, the other clearly did not.

Next I have to factor in the need to know aspect, and in a situation like this its very high, and that was my #1 reason for going forward with the story. I don't want to alarm and panic anyone but performers/directors and whomever else certainly need and have a right to know.

I didn't run this story to scoop anyone, this is far more important than anyones vanity, I immediately contacted Paul Fishbein at AVN and gave him everything I had...I want this story out and i hope AVN can find out things I can't like a name.

And honestly I don't care if someone wants to shoot the messenger, I have thick skin and honestly don't give a rats ass anyway.


so thats kinda the long and short of it.
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Old 01-20-2007, 11:57 AM   #67
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Uhh.... ok.


If you're doing gay porn, how can you consider yourself straight? How can a REAL straight man get a boner from another man's ass or mouth? No fucking way
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Old 01-20-2007, 12:06 PM   #68
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I'm not sure why a few here are coming down on Mike for giving the heads up...it's not like he mentioned anyone's name and falsely accused anyone of having HIV.

He's merely stating what he heard and come on now, isn't it better to be safe then sorry?
so you won't mind us making threads on all webmaster boards saying we heard you blow dogs and raped a 10 year old?

i mean... its ok if its just "something you heard" right? it gives you the right to post everywhere, hurting someones business without any actual facts or solid verification... because "you heard it"



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Old 01-20-2007, 12:39 PM   #69
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Bump... after taking the time to listen to Oren Cohen in his session at Internext, and hearing him emphasize and re-emphasize how important it is to test, it IS better to keep a heads up on this. Sherie is right in that it is better to be safe than sorry. There is the possiblity that it is a rumor, but Mike is in the right to draw attention to it, because the matter can be searched out and either proved true or false and then be dealt with as necessary.
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Old 01-20-2007, 01:17 PM   #70
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bump... thank goodness I shoot solo, and don't have to deal with the STD's in the first place.
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It really is considering I personally contacted Paul Fishbein and gave him what I had on the story. He said they were short staffed but they would get someone right on it, which I am sure they did.

I hope they can get more info than I did.
Apparently "Wicked Pictures Launches VIP Red Carpet Sweepstakes" is more important to them.

I have been thinking about this, and ya know, even if it turns out to only be a rumor, would it really kill the industry to not film non-condom scenes for a few days while it's sorted out? Because if it's true, HIV could be spreading every day, shoot after shoot, until someone comes forward with a name.

Rumor or fact, it should be front page on every industry site, and a sticky on every adult board, to at least make people aware that there could be a serious problem. And if for nothing else, just to remind everyone this could and probably will happen again.
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this is really sad that some people would simply pass this disease to other people without thinking 2 times before doing that....
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Old 01-20-2007, 04:09 PM   #73
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thats wacked, my brother does 95% of his shoots in europe and i know he wont turn on the camera till he sees a valid recent test.. i think he still covers the testing costs.
I have yet to see a producer care about tests... it's the models problems (unfortunately)

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