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kowalsky 01-19-2007 08:16 AM

For me Beatles were the best POP band music...

chuvii 01-19-2007 08:28 AM

Queen is #1!

ADL Colin 01-19-2007 08:44 AM

All time? Yes, they have had incredible longevity. It's been a long time since the Beatles recorded and yet they were the #5 artist in 2006 in album sales (Nielsen).

Grapesoda 01-19-2007 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 11751953)
They're the most influential rock band ever. "Best" is subjective.

actually black sabbath is prolly the most influential band ever . ..

Grapesoda 01-19-2007 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth_Porn (Post 11754613)
No they were a bunch of untalented hippies ... the only reason that entire generation (around the 1960s) still likes their shit music is because all of them were so high back then that they were trippin. So its only natural that they associated the "good times" they were having back then with the shit music they were listening while getting high.

It would be the same shit if we get all the teenagers of today high every fucking day for the next few years and have them listen to whatever is "hot"" right now (Paris Hilton or whetever kids listen too these days). After a few decades they will still look upon the "good old days" of getting high and listening to the magical tunes of Paris.

Thats my opinion ...

And as for the best rock band ever ...

Pink Floyd or Dire Straits or Deep Purple

OR

If my theory above is right then its the band that i was listening to while growing up and being high ... so its Guns N Roses

:pimp


so yer saying 40 years from now the 'back street boys' will be the most influential band ever? :)

AVM 01-19-2007 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy (Post 11751878)
Are the Beatles the best rock band ever?

Without a fucking doubt.

:2 cents: :2 cents: :2 cents:


P.s. - listening to George's album Brainwashed, the one before his death. He did an amazing job, finally reached the JL/PM greatness of songwriting.

P.s.2 - I was born after the 70's (in turn much after the beatles breakup), thus hippie, etc associations do not apply. Greatness transcends generational gaps.

SxDx 01-19-2007 09:07 AM

musical taste is all subjective opinion. i'm not really a fan of any of those rock bands. for my personal taste...social distortion is the best/my favorite rock band of all time. but i wouldn't expect anyone else to think the same :2 cents:

AVM 01-19-2007 09:13 AM

For all the people who say the beatles weren't necessarily rock? Wrong.
They were rock. They wrote for the stones, and created a demand for an Overseas sound in a (pre)dominantly driven US rock market. In turn allowing an opportunity for all British/English acts, who rarely, if ever had an impact on the U.S. market suddenly receive moderate radio exposure/potentially sales. In the following years of Beatles trail blazing, The Who, Cream, and many many others arrived upon their coattails. Years & years later, the likes of led zeppelin. All easily associated/intermingled with the U.S. rock market. How about English cinema? Do their movies go hand and hand with US releases? Not always. With this? People wanted the latest English band. The Beatles created this mystique.

Really, compare pre-Beatles rock, to post-Beatles.
The Beatles were kings since the days of the clubs. Some edges were rounded out for mass appeal/parents acceptance, but the mid to late 60's showed what these men were made of. Everyone forgets the cavern days, and how "rugged" (doubted) and short their U.S. appearance/trend would be.

In retrospect? Everybody's got a story now...

http://www.samleach.com/album/beatles_cavern.jpg


...stuart? eh, ignore and chop ringo in.

WZRogeR 01-19-2007 09:30 AM

I think the Bi2 are the best!
It's russian rock band
And their songs...
Did you hear it?

escorpio 01-19-2007 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wanton (Post 11755219)
actually black sabbath is prolly the most influential band ever . ..

I saw Black Sabbath in 1978 and they influenced half the audience to leave before the show was over. Ozzy was beyond fucked up and they were sucking big time.

I think Led Zeppelin is more influential than Sabbath, though I agree BS is a very influential band.

Klen 01-19-2007 09:49 AM

Howmuch i remember nobody has been so popular as beatles been in entire world.NOBODY.But still i dont like them personaly,i more preffer queen

Brad 01-19-2007 10:08 AM

I'm not going to say they were the best because I don't really listen to them all that much. But their influence is universal.

I think it was Darth Porn or something that said that they are untallented. That is wholly not true. When you can get up and play music for 12 hrs straight while on LSD let me know. When you become one of the top selling artists of all time let me know. These guys invented shit, tell me who mixed western music with eastern influence before the beatles, or who was editing and using the studio as an insturment. It is just such an uneducated opinion that you have shared I felt the need to call you out on it. Besides, you listed Pink Floyd...do you think that they rose to fame because of the number of sober ppl coming to the shows and buying their albums? no, most of their supporter were stoned too, and most likely on more potent drugs too.

Anyways, my is vote Pearl Jam. They survived the grunge era, took on ticketmaster, and avoided all media for a decade, yet managed to sell out shows all across the world, and Eddie Vedder has the best live voice in rock no matter what generation you are looking at (don't agree, check out their performance of "Black" from their DVD from New York). Almost forgot, they are the only band with balls enough to release all of their live shows from their last three tours. Most bands today can't put together one 1.5 hr show to release and these guys kill it for 3 hours almost every night.

I doubt that most of these Rock pussies these days would survive a day in the music industry if they didn't get on MTV or in People or RollingStone or whatever other media outlet the kids go to now.

escorpio 01-19-2007 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adult Lounge - Brad (Post 11755489)
When you can get up and play music for 12 hrs straight while on LSD let me know.

"No fuckin' problem, dude!"
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Brad 01-19-2007 10:23 AM

Greatful Dead...ya they could probably do it too

"if i get home before day light, i just might get some sleep tonight"

Galina Los 01-19-2007 10:30 AM

what a question!
 
I don't really understand why do we need to know what group uis the best?
I'm prefer lot of music styles and what?

yys 01-19-2007 10:38 AM

The Beatles Revolution Lounge in the Mirage opens to the public tonight.
Backed by Cirque du Soleil and Charles Khabouth who is the man when it comes to clubs in T.O. .

I wouldn't mind checking it out sometime.

Here's an article about the club

AVM 01-19-2007 10:41 AM

Everyone attempts to be so deep and pseudo-analytical.

"Well, technically - there is no best" -
"opinions are subjective, no objective way of determining the best"

Obviously. This GOES FOR EVERYTHING. We created time, the calendar, the languages we use, etc. The duality of man! You can yin-yang any subject and sit on the fence with this "well, you can never determine best" bullshit.

This is your world. Observe it objectively.

And...if you want validation of your opinion? Seek out the overwhelming majority's opinion. Do they agree? Well, it's an acquired taste, you personally enjoy.

But when millions each discover, and continue to love the Beatles - it speaks volumes about their enormously impressive catalogue. Overbearing merit for the "best" case, is heavily in their favor. Unamiously? No. But nevertheless, the league leaders if we could definitively propose the best. Which we never will, as genres/listeners ears are too diverse in sound/styles, no one could reach the universal appeal/audience unification of 60's music.

So? Get over being so pretentious and technical, and had fun with topic. Bold your text and scream out for Axl Rose. But don't act like a bitch. This question was posed for general consencious and or your opinion. Not Mr. teacher here is your apple kiss ass "well children no answer is to be found". Observe and experiment with suggestions from others taste, and or if really bad? Tolerate it and ignore. Hate the beatles, albeit I find impossible, if you will. But stop this "no best" to act intellectually astute/mediator of this discussion.

We realize the world is not black and white. Patronizing can now stop

P.s. beatles are still the best.

AVM 01-19-2007 10:51 AM

Won't let me edit, few more tibits** fucking piece of shit rule, 3-minutes??!!



Everyone attempts to be so deep and pseudo-analytical.

"Well, technically - there is no best" -
"opinions are subjective, no objective way of determining the best"

Obviously. This GOES FOR EVERYTHING. We created time, the calendar, the languages we use, civilization, etc. The duality of man! You can yin-yang any subject/topic/opinion and sit on the fence with, especially when it comes to the best and this "well, you can never determine ...." bullshit.

This is your world. Observe it objectively.

And...if you want validation of your opinion? Seek out the overwhelming majority's opinion. Do they agree? If not, fuck it it's an acquired taste, you personally enjoy. No one can take that way. We all have our closet bands we love.

But when millions each discover, and openly proclaim their greatness for ONE band, and continue to love the Beatles and or hate the beatles/disprove their greatness 40+ years after the fact - it speaks volumes about their enormously impressive song catalogue. Provides them? Overbearing merit, and evidence for the "best of all time" case, of which is solely & heavily in their favor. Unamiously? No, not in today's divided climate. But nevertheless, they're the league leaders if we could definitively propose the best. Which we never will, as genres/listeners ears are too diverse in sound/styles, no one could reach the universal appeal/audience unification of 60's music.

So? Get over being so pretentious and technical, and have fun with the topic. Bold your text and scream out for Axl Rose and Ozzy (a Lennon-ite). But don't act like bitches. This question was posed for general consensus and or to express your opinion. Not Mr. teacher here is your apple kiss ass "well children no answer is to be found, so cease". Observe and experiment from suggestions from others taste, and or if really bad? Tolerate it and ignore. Hate the beatles if you will, albeit I find impossible. But stop this "no best" to act intellectually astute/mediator of this discussion.

We realize the world is not black and white. Patronizing can now stop

P.s. beatles are still the best.

GhazAllOva 01-19-2007 11:02 AM

The Beatles are definitley the best rock band ever. Actually they're the best band ever, however you judge it. They've sold more records than anyone, they've changed the world like no one else, they're music library is insane.

Personally, I love Guns N Roses more, but Beatles are without a doubt the best band ever.

Elvis is second in terms of "best".

Hop on RIAA site and see how many more records Beatles have sold over anyone else and you won't need to ask this question anymore.

Let it be...

GhazAllOva 01-19-2007 11:05 AM

Quick Edit*

Having a favorite is different than "Best". My favorite basketball team is Lakers, but right now, the "Best" team is Dallas. So really, it doesn't always become objective. It comes down to stats, influence, and longevity when considering "best ever" and Beatles take the trophy, no doubt.

carol.prime 01-19-2007 11:23 AM

there will never be another beatles:(

Darth_Porn 01-19-2007 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adult Lounge - Brad (Post 11755489)
I'm not going to say they were the best because I don't really listen to them all that much. But their influence is universal.

I think it was Darth Porn or something that said that they are untallented. That is wholly not true. When you can get up and play music for 12 hrs straight while on LSD let me know. When you become one of the top selling artists of all time let me know. These guys invented shit, tell me who mixed western music with eastern influence before the beatles, or who was editing and using the studio as an insturment. It is just such an uneducated opinion that you have shared I felt the need to call you out on it. Besides, you listed Pink Floyd...do you think that they rose to fame because of the number of sober ppl coming to the shows and buying their albums? no, most of their supporter were stoned too, and most likely on more potent drugs too ...

Well well well ...

Very well BRAD ... You caught me ... I didn't study history of music or history of rock, like you did, so I shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion about the Beatles.

My opinion that the Beatles were in fact untalented was shot down by your terrific and well documented argument that it's "wholly not true" as well as the fact that they could "play music for 12 hrs straight while on LSD". If this is not sign of greatness then I really don't know what is.

I also appreciate the fact that you believe that "These guys invented shit" ... thats my opinion about their music as well.

I am also wondering ... if you could please let me know more about the "western music with eastern influence" ... you have to excuse me but I don't speak hippie so I don?t understand what you are talking about.

:321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

WebairGerard 01-19-2007 12:50 PM

all music is a matter of personal taste. My vote is The Beatles are the best ever.

Theo 01-19-2007 01:17 PM

AVM, which songs Beatles wrote for Stones? Unless I miss some track from their early singles there must not be any.

Brad 01-19-2007 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth_Porn (Post 11756300)
Well well well ...

Very well BRAD ... You caught me ... I didn't study history of music or history of rock, like you did, so I shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion about the Beatles.

My opinion that the Beatles were in fact untalented was shot down by your terrific and well documented argument that it's "wholly not true" as well as the fact that they could "play music for 12 hrs straight while on LSD". If this is not sign of greatness then I really don't know what is.

I also appreciate the fact that you believe that "These guys invented shit" ... thats my opinion about their music as well.

I am also wondering ... if you could please let me know more about the "western music with eastern influence" ... you have to excuse me but I don't speak hippie so I don?t understand what you are talking about.

:321GFY :321GFY :321GFY


lol. the fact that they could play for 12hrs straight while on LSD just shows that they don't really even need to think about it, the music just flows through them. I think this is a very good example of how naturally gifted and tallented the members of the beatles were. as far as the eastern influence, they were the first to experiment with the use of the sitar and other eastern and primarly Indian insturments. It's not hippie talk, it's just knowing what's out there and where it came from. I'm not claiming to be an expert here but I think you should know about something or someone before you start judging their tallent. I'm really not a huge beatles fan myself, but I respect their influence and the fact that they were doing something completly different from what the world had heard or seen before.

Theo 01-19-2007 01:32 PM

Darth, no untalented would ever write A Day In Life ;-)

escorpio 01-19-2007 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adult Lounge - Brad (Post 11756544)
lol. the fact that they could play for 12hrs straight while on LSD just shows that they don't really even need to think about it, the music just flows through them. I think this is a very good example of how naturally gifted and tallented the members of the beatles were. as far as the eastern influence, they were the first to experiment with the use of the sitar and other eastern and primarly Indian insturments. It's not hippie talk, it's just knowing what's out there and where it came from. I'm not claiming to be an expert here but I think you should know about something or someone before you start judging their tallent. I'm really not a huge beatles fan myself, but I respect their influence and the fact that they were doing something completly different from what the world had heard or seen before.

Well stated. :thumbsup

Theo 01-19-2007 01:42 PM

some rare beatles studio jammin

http://www.seoman.com/beatles/

:)

Sysgenix 01-19-2007 03:07 PM

Best is subjective to everyones own opinion, someone might say Modern Talking was but we won't pay attention to them.
I think influential wise is in order.
Pink Floyd
Beatles
Santana
Jimi Hendrix
Tool

germ 01-19-2007 03:31 PM

there is no best...only favorite.

Kevin Cunningham 01-19-2007 03:39 PM

Some of the guys in our office have been playing the Beatles a lot lately. I'm getting kind of hooked, going out to by the Sgt. Peppers album this weekend. It will be my first Beatles purchase.

Pinacolada 01-19-2007 04:12 PM

White Stripes are the best of the best but Beatles are not bad they started the hole thing.

needlive 01-19-2007 04:37 PM

Look,

I've been listening to The Calling's Camino Palmero album a lot lately,

it's brilliant, and they've had a lot inspiration by...

U2! Edge's signature guitar sound, Bono's voice and the way they've affected on the pop-world is simply amazing!

Religion, fashion, elegancy, energy, dinamycs...I've never heard so much great songs from any band!...

The Beatles are on top too...a CLASSIC band, will never be forgotten.

bushwacker 01-19-2007 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sysgenix (Post 11757016)
Best is subjective to everyones own opinion, someone might say Modern Talking was but we won't pay attention to them.
I think influential wise is in order.
Pink Floyd
Beatles
Santana
Jimi Hendrix
Tool

zepplin would have to be at the top of that list.

XXXWriterDude 01-19-2007 05:16 PM

The Beatles didn't become a great rock band until they stopped touring, quit writing fluff ("Hippy Hippy Shake" anyone?) and started taking drugs. Almost everything from Rubber Soul on was consistently amazing from them, and they did so much to influence future artists through their experimental wizardry and ability to write great songs than ANY other band in history, INCLUDING the Stones, who wrote more straight-forward tracks and who--let's face it--haven't had an important hit single since 1984. And I don't really know that many people who consider "Start Me Up" to be all that important in the long run. :)

That's how I see it anyway. I love the Stones (how can you not love anyone who wrote "Ruby Tuesday"?), but they just don't compare to the Beatles.

Grapesoda 01-19-2007 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 11755387)
I saw Black Sabbath in 1978 and they influenced half the audience to leave before the show was over. Ozzy was beyond fucked up and they were sucking big time.

I think Led Zeppelin is more influential than Sabbath, though I agree BS is a very influential band.

more like from 1970-1973 . . after that not much . . funny thing about zep, one of the 'heaviest' bands to ever perform and 1/2 the songs were acoustic :)

shekinah 01-19-2007 06:22 PM

I guess I still have the beattles, but then again I still love Led Zeppelin!:)

TSGlider 01-19-2007 06:49 PM

Beatles are arguably the most influential, groundbreaking band of all time.
Where does bobby dylan fit into all this, though?

Joe Citizen 01-19-2007 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel (Post 11756481)
AVM, which songs Beatles wrote for Stones? Unless I miss some track from their early singles there must not be any.

"I Wanna Be Your Man" is one.

drowsy 01-19-2007 07:22 PM

fukk the beatles, rolling stones, led zeppelin, aerosmith..... nirvana is the GOAT


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