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BitAudioVideo 01-19-2007 10:23 AM

you want to cry about the US protest of this? maybe you should find out if your own country protested this also. Canada and Australia both registered protests.

biftek 01-19-2007 10:40 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/0...ile/index.html
Quote:

Under a space policy authorized by President Bush in August, the United States asserts a right to "freedom of action in space" and says it will "deter others from either impeding those rights or developing capabilities intended to do so."
. If I read that correctly, the US can shoot down anything they want, and can forcefully destroy installations within other countries which could be linked to any type of launching facility?

Doesn't that simply read "We can do it, but we don't want you to"??

while i can't find any reference to us shooting down sats in 1985 from ground base , the only thing that i could come back with was the ASM-135 - it's air-launched (from modified F-15s), not ground-launched http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-135.html

the chinese late last year did do tests to blind satelites , firing high power lasers

Webby 01-19-2007 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biftek (Post 11755610)
Doesn't that simply read "We can do it, but we don't want you to"??

You prob hit the nail on the head biftek.

It's the same with many areas and generally these are hypocritical, but can once in a while be truthful - as often as a broken clock tells the truth every 12 hours.

Issues of nuclear capability are the same - those who possess nuclear weapons don't want others to possess them - and often on the basis "we know best". The current holders of nuclear capability can't be trusted with shit - some of them can barely run their own countries with any competence. Despite attempts to avoid the spread of nuclear capability - it's easy to see why others may want these weapons when they see the idiots who have them.

It's a human thing - nobody gets to play with my toys :)

evildick 01-19-2007 11:39 AM

Maybe this explains why I've been losing the porn and PPV channels on my free to air dish the last few days.

:winkwink:

directfiesta 01-19-2007 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evildick (Post 11755927)
Maybe this explains why I've been losing the porn and PPV channels on my free to air dish the last few days.

:winkwink:

LOL .. Now that would be a good enough reason to retaliate ....

But I think it is more for this reason:

It seems that Bev has started moving the PPV, Adult channels, and Events to the provider ID 904.

Charlie or BEV .... ?

On BEV, I still have porn & PPV on my pansat 2700, Viewsat Extreme and SonicView 1000 ( the best of all receivers... )

OzMan 01-19-2007 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 11755959)
...
On BEV, I still have porn & PPV on my pansat 2700, Viewsat Extreme and SonicView 1000 ( the best of all receivers... )

Which is best, the SonicView 1000? I'm currently shopping for a FTA receiver. :)

directfiesta 01-19-2007 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan (Post 11755993)
Which is best, the SonicView 1000? I'm currently shopping for a FTA receiver. :)

It is the best I ever had . Component out, Processor is powerfull, so ECM are not affecting it as much. Colors are great. EPG runs fine, remote is high quality, switching channels is instant ...

Last time I uploaded a new bin to it was mid -november ... never failed since :thumbsup


The only risk: if the chinese blast our birds.... :mad: ... :1orglaugh

crockett 01-19-2007 12:35 PM

Wasn't it China whom made a big light and shined it up into space at one of our spy satellites so it couldn't take pictures? Maybe it was a mirror but I know it was either China or North Korea.

Anyway I'm sure stuff like this is nothing new, I'm sure the US and probably the former USSR has been able to do it for some time now. Let's not forget NASA landed a satellite on a asteroid not so long ago.

crockett 01-19-2007 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 11755688)
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh You actually think the US stands a chance in China??

Hows that little thing in Iraq going for ya?


The US is just fine fighting a normal war against an invading army. Such as if China tried to take over Taiwan or if North Korea tried to take over South Korea. Those are the types of wars we are best at.

The problem with wars like Iraq and Afghanistan is we are the invading army and when you are the invading army and try to control the country it's a much different war. Much harder and it doesn't help that we have an admin that's more worried about big business profits vs soldiers lives.

Just look at history and you can see that conventional armies almost never win against long drawn out insurances. For example look at the first war America ever fought.. We were the insurgents and we kicked the buts out of the conventional army of the Britt's.

Then look at Vietnam we were the conventional army and they were the insurgents, we won all the battles yet they still won the war. Lets not also forget that the French had their ass handed to them in Vietnam before we ever stepped in.

Now look at Afghan, the Soviets got their ass handed to them and we're no doing much better there. Now Iraq is the same.

It's nothing to do wth the US army because we can defanily kick ass it's the type of wars. Almost never can a conventional army win aginst a well armed insurgancy.

With China or NK, we wouldn't be an invading army, it would be more of a fight until they surrendered or were beaten which is the wars we are best at. Insurgencies almost never give up or surrender until they get there way, because they have much less to lose.

crockett 01-19-2007 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 11756361)
Now thats about as much as your post as I read.

Yea I guess it's too much info for simple mind.. sorry I'll give you the short version..


USA > China

evildick 01-19-2007 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 11755959)
LOL .. Now that would be a good enough reason to retaliate ....

But I think it is more for this reason:

It seems that Bev has started moving the PPV, Adult channels, and Events to the provider ID 904.

Charlie or BEV .... ?

On BEV, I still have porn & PPV on my pansat 2700, Viewsat Extreme and SonicView 1000 ( the best of all receivers... )

BEV. I am using a coolsat 5000 platinum. I still have some PPV, but all porn is gone. Sounds like there are some FTA receivers that are still able to handle this new technique they are using.... Unfortunately mine isn't one of them.

But from what I've read it sounds like if I can get hold of a ROM 102 card I should be up and running again with my coolsat, since I bought the add-on card slot for it, until they come up with a cardless fix.

Zuss 01-19-2007 02:19 PM

good news.

bliket 01-19-2007 02:36 PM

Oh I remember when me and my colleagues were working on that satellite, it's actually one of the first satellites with nuclear weaponry onboard. We renamed it FY-1C so the westerners wouldn't get suspicious. We had to shoot it down because the satellite needed physical maintenance (to keep the nukes active), and instead of going up and fixing it we just decided to send up another one... So yeah, we ended up just knocking FY-1C of the sky. It took us three tries to get it head on, I guess third one is the charm!

OzMan 01-19-2007 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 11756098)
It is the best I ever had . Component out, Processor is powerfull, so ECM are not affecting it as much. Colors are great. EPG runs fine, remote is high quality, switching channels is instant ...

Last time I uploaded a new bin to it was mid -november ... never failed since :thumbsup


The only risk: if the chinese blast our birds.... :mad: ... :1orglaugh

:thumbsup Thanks for the info

borked 01-19-2007 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 11756336)
The US is just fine fighting a normal war against an invading army. Such as if China tried to take over Taiwan or if North Korea tried to take over South Korea. Those are the types of wars we are best at.

The problem with wars like Iraq and Afghanistan is we are the invading army and when you are the invading army and try to control the country it's a much different war. Much harder and it doesn't help that we have an admin that's more worried about big business profits vs soldiers lives.

Just look at history and you can see that conventional armies almost never win against long drawn out insurances. For example look at the first war America ever fought.. We were the insurgents and we kicked the buts out of the conventional army of the Britt's.

Then look at Vietnam we were the conventional army and they were the insurgents, we won all the battles yet they still won the war. Lets not also forget that the French had their ass handed to them in Vietnam before we ever stepped in.

Now look at Afghan, the Soviets got their ass handed to them and we're no doing much better there. Now Iraq is the same.

It's nothing to do wth the US army because we can defanily kick ass it's the type of wars. Almost never can a conventional army win aginst a well armed insurgancy.

With China or NK, we wouldn't be an invading army, it would be more of a fight until they surrendered or were beaten which is the wars we are best at. Insurgencies almost never give up or surrender until they get there way, because they have much less to lose.

That's about the bottom line, folks :thumbsup

Phoenix 01-19-2007 03:51 PM

did many of you not read the article and just respond?

inabon 01-19-2007 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroswebmaster (Post 11752272)
Jealousy is a bitch

:eek7 WTF are you talking about??

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