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Old 01-18-2007, 02:09 PM   #1
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I am calling out all Tech Savvy people, We need to get vigilante on this HUGE *SCAM*

Listen close GFY,

My friend's mother was scammed for thousands of dollars from this fake ass website

http://charmawellsfinancialgroup.com

They are a fake business that offers promises of "loans" to people

They approve everybody for "loans" but require people, get ready to laugh, to send "down payments" on the "loan" via Western Union to someone either in New York or Canada.

They don't ever fund anybody with loans, they take the W/U money and run.
GoDaddy's abuse department, The FBI, Etc, All these different people who should be handling a situation like this aren't doing ANYTHING to help until over 50,000$ of documented damage has occoured.

Basically,

HELP

I am asking for the elitest motherfuckers on GFY to help me with this.

They have an (866) toll free number and everything, but they're completely phoney.

My main objectives are to

#1: Get this site suspended (they're hosted with GoDaddy's SecureServer.net)
#2: Find out who is behind this bullshit

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Old 01-18-2007, 02:11 PM   #2
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Why is your friends mom so stupid?
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This thread made me giggle.
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Old 01-18-2007, 02:12 PM   #4
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Old 01-18-2007, 02:13 PM   #5
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Why is your friends mom so stupid?
Yeah, Seriously.

Look at this fucking site. Look at all the SEO they have, and the Google position they've obtained.

They've been running the same scam for awhile without being caught.

I am trying to put an end to this shit before they destroy more innocent people's lives.

Yes, we can all rest assure that none of us besides the surfers on GFY would be dumb enough to fall into this bullshit, but as intelligent people who are ahead of the curve in technology, we need to help.

They're simply ruining lives.

People are trying to get loans because they're already financially unstable, and they're getting fucked over. It's one thing to steal from a faceless corporation, it's entirely different to steal from people who are already in a bad situation, one of their bad situations being obviously not being able to realize a scam.

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Old 01-18-2007, 02:14 PM   #6
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what a scam...why did she fall for it
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Old 01-18-2007, 02:15 PM   #7
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you got ripped off didn't you. Oh and btw, i'm thinking that 50k is a crock of shit since it's a) being done across state lines and b) a felony
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Old 01-18-2007, 02:17 PM   #8
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you got ripped off didn't you. Oh and btw, i'm thinking that 50k is a crock of shit since it's a) being done across state lines and b) a felony
Bro did you read this thread?

Of course I didn't get ripped off, I can spot a scam from a mile away.

I'm actually trying to get something good accomplished by getting these people shut down.

They ripped off my friend's computer illiterate mother.
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since when did having a toll free number make someone legit?

why would anyone give money to someone to borrow money... someone that isnt listed as FDIC insurred or atleast has the better business bureau seal?
I know

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Old 01-18-2007, 02:17 PM   #9
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They have an (866) toll free number and everything, but they're completely phoney.
since when did having a toll free number make someone legit?

why would anyone give money to someone to borrow money... someone that isnt listed as FDIC insurred or atleast has the better business bureau seal?
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Anyone with a decent brian and a decent heart will help.
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Old 01-18-2007, 02:18 PM   #11
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Bro did you read this thread?

Of course I didn't get ripped off, I can spot a scam from a mile away.

I'm actually trying to get something good accomplished by getting these people shut down.

They ripped off my friend's computer illiterate mother.
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Old 01-18-2007, 02:19 PM   #13
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Old 01-18-2007, 02:23 PM   #14
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I'm looking for all you geeky social engineering white hats like myself who want to positively impact people's lives.

Unfortunately assholes like Alky just drop 's and continue on with their selfish and meaningless existences instead of contributing to anything of decency.

Yes, my friend's mom got scammed by a retarded looking website more than likely run by some teen-aged kid. It doesn't change the fact that this scam is truly fucking innocent people over, and I care enough to do something about it.
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Old 01-18-2007, 02:28 PM   #15
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Contact these people http://www.domainsbyproxy.com/

And explain the situation, telling them about, "charmawellsfinancialgroup.com" as they are hiding their real address etc. and if you get no joy with them, contact me privately.
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The answer is very, very simple: Get ahold of the media. Have your friend's mom contact local TV, newspapers, perhaps regional office of AP or similar. Get the story out there.

Scream it from the highest mountains as needed.

Have her contact her local police and declare the fraud. Without a crime reported, there is no crime. Report it.

The contact Western Union in writing to show where the money went. Claim fraud to Western Union. Tell them the money went to the wrong place or is being applied by the company, so it must have been stolen, Make them work for it. Give them the police report number. Make sure they understand you are serious.

Contact USA today.

Contact the feds, report it through their online fraud reporting systems.

Contact your local senator and house reps offices as well. Write letters to anyone and everyone you can thing of. Make a stink.
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Send them a "legitimate" support request at their gmail address to obtain their IP. At least you'll know whereabouts they live ;-)
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Urb, I sent a report/complaint to DomainsByProxies, but I'm sure even behind the DomainsByProxies whois protection it's still bogus information.

RawAlex, they've been reported to the feds numerous times, you'd be surprised at how unwilling they are to do anything. I'm sure going to the media is the best choice.

Rhesus, that's already in the works, but I assume they're smart enough to stay behind proxies.
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Jesus, RawAlex How you doing?
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The answer is very, very simple: Get ahold of the media. Have your friend's mom contact local TV, newspapers, perhaps regional office of AP or similar. Get the story out there.

Scream it from the highest mountains as needed.

Have her contact her local police and declare the fraud. Without a crime reported, there is no crime. Report it.

The contact Western Union in writing to show where the money went. Claim fraud to Western Union. Tell them the money went to the wrong place or is being applied by the company, so it must have been stolen, Make them work for it. Give them the police report number. Make sure they understand you are serious.

Contact USA today.

Contact the feds, report it through their online fraud reporting systems.

Contact your local senator and house reps offices as well. Write letters to anyone and everyone you can thing of. Make a stink.
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On the other hand, contacting the media will make them truly take the money & disappear.

It's bullshit that the feds are uninterested in handling this ASAP.
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Send them a "legitimate" support request at their gmail address to obtain their IP. At least you'll know whereabouts they live ;-)
You can't get someones IP from a free email retard
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Look at the address they use.... it actually (if real) belongs to the following:

Horr, Linfors, Skipp & Novak, P.A.
9100 S Dadeland Blvd Ste 1104, Miami, FL 33156
Email [email protected]
Phone (305) 670-2525
Fax (305) 670-2526

They might help
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You can't get someones IP from a free email retard
Yes you can, it's typically in the headers of the email. I don't know about gmail but i know hotmail puts them in there....
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Listen close GFY,

My friend's mother was scammed for thousands of dollars from this fake ass website

http://charmawellsfinancialgroup.com

They are a fake business that offers promises of "loans" to people

They approve everybody for "loans" but require people, get ready to laugh, to send "down payments" on the "loan" via Western Union to someone either in New York or Canada.

They don't ever fund anybody with loans, they take the W/U money and run.
GoDaddy's abuse department, The FBI, Etc, All these different people who should be handling a situation like this aren't doing ANYTHING to help until over 50,000$ of documented damage has occoured.

Basically,

HELP

I am asking for the elitest motherfuckers on GFY to help me with this.

They have an (866) toll free number and everything, but they're completely phoney.

My main objectives are to

#1: Get this site suspended (they're hosted with GoDaddy's SecureServer.net)
#2: Find out who is behind this bullshit

Can you fax me some sort of proof that this happend? I'll have their website taken down today and have all their info pulled.. Their website is hosted IN THE USA at ATT. Its pretty easy to grab their payment info (weather its real info or not is a dif story)
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Can you fax me some sort of proof that this happend? I'll have their website taken down today and have all their info pulled.. Their website is hosted IN THE USA at ATT. Its pretty easy to grab their payment info (weather its real info or not is a dif story)
I don't have access to a fax machine but I can assure you that it did happen, not only to my friend's mom, but to numerous other people as well.

[email protected]

If you want to shoot me over an e-mail I can put you into contact with a woman in Ohio who was screwed over and is networking together with everyone else who was screwed over by the site to try to do something about it.

This site totally needs to be taken down and GoDaddy isn't doing shit for me.
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I totally want their docs pulled, CCBillMKTG, how do you know that's their info? I haven't seen that info anywhere, shoot me an e-mail if you don't want to talk on GFY about it.

Edit: That's the fake address listed on their website, they used a phoney New York address before that one I guess.

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that's a shitty way to get scammed. I hope you can get to the bottom of this. It's ahrd to believe that they haven't gotten busted yet. I hope these guys get it right up the pooper for this fraudulent shit.
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Ok, here goes...

ping.. ping..
charmawellsfinancialgroup.com

resolving... IP 68.178.211.6

Google loves you... http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...e178%2e211%2e6

By the googld result it looks like shared hosting, if not... do a whois on those domains and you got your scammer.

The shared host would be godaddy on att bandwidth. Its good to start at the top and goto the bottom. IE first report it to ATT, then to godaddy.
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I don't have access to a fax machine but I can assure you that it did happen, not only to my friend's mom, but to numerous other people as well.

[email protected]

If you want to shoot me over an e-mail I can put you into contact with a woman in Ohio who was screwed over and is networking together with everyone else who was screwed over by the site to try to do something about it.

This site totally needs to be taken down and GoDaddy isn't doing shit for me.
Im not going to sit here and talk to some stupid lady while she explains shit to me over the course 10 hours. If its fast, i'll get it taken down, if not, she can suck it.
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ztik - are you saying, those domains also belong to the people who own the scam site?

edit: dude, i've been around forever, like some of us, i started out over a decade ago as a hacker kid, i know all about pulling docs, getting websites taken down, social engineering, everything.

these people are truly difficult to get shut down, and it's funny, it's the only site i can't get shut down, and they honestly are evil people who deserve it.

fact of the matter is every minute this site is up, more people are getting their lives destroyed.

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ztik - are you saying, those domains also belong to the people who own the scam site?

edit: dude, i've been around forever, like some of us, i started out over a decade ago as a hacker kid, i know all about pulling docs, getting websites taken down, social engineering, everything.

these people are truly difficult to get shut down, and it's funny, the only site i can't get shut down, they honestly are evil people who deserve it.
Normally, they assign 1 ip per domain. Its possible godaddy host multi sites on each domain. If they don't(host sites on dif domains), then thats all under the same account.
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good luck.. that's the fakest website on the planet. Gmail for a financial corp?

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ztik is talking complete bs, he's not even worth listening to. They're simply on a shared hosting account, and most hosts don't assign a unique IP to each domain on such a shared server. I think it's unlikely those other 3000 domains on that IP are theirs.
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RH - I kind of thought the same thing - a lot of my websites have the same IP as other people's sites that my webhost hosts.

Damn, why is this site still up.

Somebody here is elite enough to save the day.
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how much did she get fucked for?
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$2,000.00

They have like 40 people who have been scammed by this place all in sloppy communication with each other, just keep in mind that these people are also the types of people who fall for ridiculous scams.

I'm estimating that well over $100,000+ has been scammed by these people recently.

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ROFL.

Edit: You're just jealous because I'm a Brianiac.

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ztik is talking complete bs, he's not even worth listening to. They're simply on a shared hosting account, and most hosts don't assign a unique IP to each domain on such a shared server. I think it's unlikely those other 3000 domains on that IP are theirs.

Did you even read my post.. I said it is most likely on shared hosting.. but if it isn't then its their site.. But more than likely its on shared ip hosting
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Bro did you read this thread?

Of course I didn't get ripped off, I can spot a scam from a mile away.


I know

GFY is the biggest scam on the internet, u know
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Old 01-18-2007, 04:45 PM   #49
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The answer is very, very simple: Get ahold of the media. Have your friend's mom contact local TV, newspapers, perhaps regional office of AP or similar. Get the story out there.

Scream it from the highest mountains as needed.

Have her contact her local police and declare the fraud. Without a crime reported, there is no crime. Report it.

The contact Western Union in writing to show where the money went. Claim fraud to Western Union. Tell them the money went to the wrong place or is being applied by the company, so it must have been stolen, Make them work for it. Give them the police report number. Make sure they understand you are serious.

Contact USA today.

Contact the feds, report it through their online fraud reporting systems.

Contact your local senator and house reps offices as well. Write letters to anyone and everyone you can thing of. Make a stink.
Any one of these suggestions is far more likely to get something done vs. coming to GFY looking for help.

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Old 01-18-2007, 04:55 PM   #50
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ROFL.

Edit: You're just jealous because I'm a Brianiac.
hit me up on icq... i can help you....
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