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sevent 01-17-2007 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11747398)
U think that's too much?

Yes. Well, maybe. If you look at the other names which sold for $XX,XXX I think it was expensive. Say the following out loud:

Hand Job
Kinky Sex
Gay Pride
Inter Racial Sex

The last one almost seems clinical and scientific. It doesn't flow which makes me doubt that you could create a whole identity around interracialsex.com (note the "rr" next to each other, another problem). But if the buyer was purchasing to protect a similar site or extend an existing brand maybe it's worth it. IMO there were lots of great deals had at the auction, but this wasn't one of them.

dig420 01-17-2007 11:13 PM

Searches done in December 2006
Count Search Term
99570 interracial sex

Those are pretty good overture numbers though right? Not as good as hand job, but way better than kinky sex. Plus it's my biggest niche by far...

Billy Rubin 01-17-2007 11:48 PM

In comparison to an equal entity, interracial.com was over-priced relative to handjob.com and kinkysex.com, but dig is an already developed end-user for the traffic of interracialsex.com. The domain is worth more to him than others, and his time horizon for payback is shorter. So while over-priced, it's not as bad as it looks. Sorry, dig. Still an awesome domain and it's yours!

will76 01-18-2007 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11747756)
Searches done in December 2006
Count Search Term
99570 interracial sex

Those are pretty good overture numbers though right? Not as good as hand job, but way better than kinky sex. Plus it's my biggest niche by far...

If nothing else congrats for having the money to drop on a name like that. I am sure you will do good with it.

popy 01-18-2007 12:33 AM

I would so buy behind.com. I wonder who won that so I can see if I can buy it off them for at least $15k - 20k.

dig420 01-18-2007 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Rubin (Post 11747848)
In comparison to an equal entity, interracial.com was over-priced relative to handjob.com and kinkysex.com, but dig is an already developed end-user for the traffic of interracialsex.com. The domain is worth more to him than others, and his time horizon for payback is shorter. So while over-priced, it's not as bad as it looks. Sorry, dig. Still an awesome domain and it's yours!

I suspect, even though I have no numbers handy to back me up, that interracial traffic as a niche is more valuable than most other niche traffic when handled correctly. It has the retention of a microniche and maybe that contributes to the fact that interracial domains tend to cost more than other niche domains with similar or greater numbers. Or maybe I'm rationalizing hahaha

Either way you sound like you know what you're talking about. I should post some domains up and let you grade them ;)

I noticed tonight at the auction that any decent two word domain with the keyword 'amateur' in it did very well. In retrospect I should have listed a bunch of domains in this auction myself... oh well there's always next year.

boneprone 01-18-2007 01:14 AM

People got hosed......

MikeSmoke 01-18-2007 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11747971)
In retrospect I should have listed a bunch of domains in this auction myself... oh well there's always next year.

Amen, bro :(

dig420 01-18-2007 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 11748059)
People got hosed......

You still in vegas? Let's play some cards man!

I have a 10 seat poker table at my place, I should try to get a game together tomorrow, 1k entry, winner takes it all!

dig420 01-18-2007 01:37 AM

doublepost!

sevent 01-18-2007 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 11748059)
People got hosed......

Not sure where you get that from. Overall looks like a lot of solid deals and a few huge bargains. Only a few names look overpriced, and with the right plan/promotion they might still pay back their price in a reasonable time.

Prediction: In 2 years those who were outbid will look back at the prices and wonder how they could have passed up those names at those prices. :2 cents:

polish_aristocrat 01-18-2007 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sevent (Post 11749233)
Not sure where you get that from. Overall looks like a lot of solid deals and a few huge bargains. Only a few names look overpriced, and with the right plan/promotion they might still pay back their price in a reasonable time.

not sure what exact bargains you saw there

Quote:

Prediction: In 2 years those who were outbid will look back at the prices and wonder how they could have passed up those names at those prices. :2 cents:
I own a few (not really many though) good adult typeins and I'd love if your prediction was true (escpecially since I tend to buy names below market prices).

However, I see no reason for the increase of prices of adult domains.

As branding is concerned, you can brand almost any name.

As for typein traffic, that's quite stable, but the overall conversions in adult went significantly down compared to 7 or so years ago (today often the best monetisation technique is domain parking).
And at the same time the price of such typeins domains significantly increased.

So personally I don't see much potential for a further increase anymore.

Not to mention that there's again the risk of ICANN giving the 'green light' to the .XXX domains, which - if implemented - even as voluntary - could slowly gain some popularity and decrease the overall value of adult "dot com" (and also their typein traffic ).

sevent 01-18-2007 09:37 AM

Hi Polish,

I agree that ICANN and .xxx and lower PPC payouts are a potential threat, but adult names have always have a higher risk threshold and therefore sell for smaller multiples.

It's also true that just about any name can be branded, but some are easier to brand than others. Compare branding greatSexForYouNow.info with HandJobs.com. Which *identity* is going to stick better in user's minds?

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 11749269)
not sure what exact bargains you saw there.

My picks for the best bargains:

gaypride.com $60k (could go adult or mainstream as in Out Magazine or similar. Probably could sell 1k subscriptions/month)
behind.com $13k (monster of a name. Extremely memorable)
anal.org $5.5k (extrodinary .org)
FuneralParlor.com $7k (probably $50/click on PPC, bad idea to sell at Adult auction IMO)

sevent 01-18-2007 09:39 AM

BTW here are some names which got bids but DID NOT MEET RESERVE:

goodgirls.com - bids at 25K min. no higher bids.
stripshows.com - bids up to 18K
virgins.mobi - bids up to 17K
promqueen.com - bids up to 17K
amateuranalsex.com - bids up to 5K
sexcash.com - bids up to 50K
sucked.com - bids up to 12K
catholicschoolgirls.com - bids up to 20K
sexshows.com - bids up to 40K
penissize.com - bids up to 30K
girlsonly.com - bids up to 41K
cute.com - bids up to 400K
stripping.com - bids up to 75K
limousineservice.com - bids up to 45K
ussenate.com - bids up to 41K
fetish.com - bids up to 600K
privacy.com - bids up to 700K

Bliggo 01-18-2007 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11747756)
Searches done in December 2006
Count Search Term
99570 interracial sex

Those are pretty good overture numbers though right? Not as good as hand job, but way better than kinky sex. Plus it's my biggest niche by far...

YARGH! You did well. You'll get it back, and much more. :thumbsup

davecummings 01-18-2007 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sevent (Post 11749311)
BTW here are some names which got bids but DID NOT MEET RESERVE:

goodgirls.com - bids at 25K min. no higher bids.
stripshows.com - bids up to 18K
virgins.mobi - bids up to 17K
promqueen.com - bids up to 17K
amateuranalsex.com - bids up to 5K
sexcash.com - bids up to 50K
sucked.com - bids up to 12K
catholicschoolgirls.com - bids up to 20K
sexshows.com - bids up to 40K
penissize.com - bids up to 30K
girlsonly.com - bids up to 41K
cute.com - bids up to 400K
stripping.com - bids up to 75K
limousineservice.com - bids up to 45K
ussenate.com - bids up to 41K
fetish.com - bids up to 600K
privacy.com - bids up to 700K

That ussenate.com has me thinking that perhaps my following ones I own might possibly be of some (substitute?) interest to those who did bid up to the price up to $41K:

SENATEBJ.COM
SENATEBUREAUCRACY.COM
SENATEMILF.COM
SENATESEX.COM

Although my four above domains are not in my 242 domains that are in the ongoing silent auction, AMERICANBUREAUCRACY.COM is in the silent auction.

Dave
www.davecummings.com

SinisterStudios 01-18-2007 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sevent (Post 11749311)
virgins.mobi - bids up to 17K


God Damn, makes me wonder what i can get for invoice.mobi

polish_aristocrat 01-18-2007 11:19 AM

I don't want to act like the GFY's domain expert, but in my opinion, .mobis are definitely overhyped.

Toni 01-18-2007 11:25 AM

I don't like those .mobis too

Billy Rubin 01-18-2007 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 11749856)
I don't want to act like the GFY's domain expert, but in my opinion, .mobis are definitely overhyped.

Over-hyped doesn't begin to describe it.

The $200k flowers.mobi sale started the price increase phase, but that is a very specific domain tailored for a very special act most of us men have had to do in our lives, and it's still a big gamble. That one has a chance, even at that price. Most other .mobi domains are worthless, unless they meet similar characteristics of last minute mobile phone use.

Taking a look at the example above, what urgency is there to get an invoice on your mobile phone? The answer is "not much", making invoice.mobi relatively worthless. Sorry.

Now let the .mobi buzzards circle.

VeriSexy 01-18-2007 12:37 PM

some crazy high prices

sevent 01-18-2007 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SinisterStudios (Post 11749797)
God Damn, makes me wonder what i can get for invoice.mobi

Very nice name :thumbsup . One of the few .mobi's that makes real sense given the possible convergence of cellphones and payment options.

makefuckingmoney 01-18-2007 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by popy (Post 11747944)
I would so buy behind.com. I wonder who won that so I can see if I can buy it off them for at least $15k - 20k.

i saw the guy that bought it..was a very handsome well hung fellow..

sharp 01-18-2007 03:01 PM

some nice domains, but some very OVERPRICED.

davecummings 01-18-2007 03:02 PM

Like some of you, I'm not convinced that .mobi will be that compelling in the future---admittedly, my opinion might be tainted by the fact that I own a lot of domains starting with the word "mobile".

Dave

dig420 01-18-2007 03:09 PM

most mobi domains got passed right over, after a while he just stopped even trying to get bids for them.

I wouldn't touch ussenate.com or fcc.com with a 10 ft. pole, waaaay too likely to bring unwelcome attention from the wrong people.

BlackCrayon 01-18-2007 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Rubin (Post 11750019)
Over-hyped doesn't begin to describe it.

The $200k flowers.mobi sale started the price increase phase, but that is a very specific domain tailored for a very special act most of us men have had to do in our lives, and it's still a big gamble. That one has a chance, even at that price. Most other .mobi domains are worthless, unless they meet similar characteristics of last minute mobile phone use.

Taking a look at the example above, what urgency is there to get an invoice on your mobile phone? The answer is "not much", making invoice.mobi relatively worthless. Sorry.

Now let the .mobi buzzards circle.

sportsbook.mobi sold for 129k. not at this auction, mobis didn't do well but virgin.mobi got up to 17k but didn't hit reserve.

makefuckingmoney 01-18-2007 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 11751340)
sportsbook.mobi sold for 129k. not at this auction, mobis didn't do well but virgin.mobi got up to 17k but didn't hit reserve.

ok..i was there..

virgin.mobi didnt hit any number..the auctioneer just started going up to 17k..there was no bidder at 17k it was basically what someone set as their reserve..it was the same on almost all the domains that didnt sell or come anywhere near the reserve asked for them.

Peaches 01-18-2007 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makefuckingmoney (Post 11751242)
i saw the guy that bought it..was a very handsome well hung fellow..

:helpme :helpme :helpme

(I'm not sending you anymore links :winkwink: )

BlackCrayon 01-18-2007 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makefuckingmoney (Post 11751369)
ok..i was there..

virgin.mobi didnt hit any number..the auctioneer just started going up to 17k..there was no bidder at 17k it was basically what someone set as their reserve..it was the same on almost all the domains that didnt sell or come anywhere near the reserve asked for them.

thanks for clearing that up.

free4porn 01-18-2007 05:12 PM

i need a time machine :D

sevent 01-18-2007 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by free4porn (Post 11751911)
i need a time machine :D

You have one right now, you just have to use it. Like I say most of these prices will seem VERY cheep in another couple years. There are other auctions, forums, conferences, etc. Pick up the best names you can.

NinjaSteve 01-18-2007 05:38 PM

Can you still list domains, or is it closed?

SinisterStudios 01-18-2007 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sevent (Post 11751105)
Very nice name :thumbsup . One of the few .mobi's that makes real sense given the possible convergence of cellphones and payment options.

That was the reason i got it

DaddyHalbucks 01-18-2007 06:35 PM

The silent auction is still going on at

http://www.silentmoniker.com

:)

stickyfingerz 01-18-2007 06:53 PM

There was one of the domain sellers that had several domain names listed, and fucked up the reserve prices. So a bunch said reserve between 1-5000.00 There was only one I wanted, and I started to bid then they jumped to 100k on it rofl. All the sheets there showed the 1-5000.00 reserve. Kind of shitty. :(

Bossman 01-18-2007 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Rubin (Post 11750019)
Now let the .mobi buzzards circle.

Hehehe... I´m not really thinking you are completely wrong, but there is more than a handful .mobi domains that are good. The mobilephone is more important than the world wide web to the new generations. If they had to choose, then they would choose their mobilephones. However it will not be a batlle between .com or .mobi, because most people will be able to access the internet via both their computers and mobilephones, which opens for some interesting ideas :thumbsup

sevent 01-18-2007 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossman (Post 11752564)
Hehehe... I´m not really thinking you are completely wrong, but there is more than a handful .mobi domains that are good. The mobilephone is more important than the world wide web to the new generations. If they had to choose, then they would choose their mobilephones. However it will not be a batlle between .com or .mobi, because most people will be able to access the internet via both their computers and mobilephones, which opens for some interesting ideas :thumbsup

The problem with .mobi is that it risks loosing it's entire reason for existing (as a "gated community" for WAP compatible sites only) in the next few years, as more and more phone and PDA (like the iPhone) find ways to display regular HTML sites on smaller but ever growing screens.

baddog 01-18-2007 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by breaker (Post 11746379)
Wow, i wish i had some on that list now :) Crazy prices.

My thoughts exactly.

will76 01-18-2007 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11753476)
My thoughts exactly.

What doesn't someone start a domain sale thread " Shit I wish I had on that list" and everyone can post all of the domains they wish they would have placed on "that" auction.

I am curious what names some of you left off and I wouldn't mind dumping some of my own for the right price.

JimiJimi 01-18-2007 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11752354)
There was one of the domain sellers that had several domain names listed, and fucked up the reserve prices. So a bunch said reserve between 1-5000.00 There was only one I wanted, and I started to bid then they jumped to 100k on it rofl. All the sheets there showed the 1-5000.00 reserve. Kind of shitty. :(

OUCH that could cause some serious problems.

minimouse 01-19-2007 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.R. (Post 11747432)
I have BrandyTalore.com for sale, make an offer, has type ins and traffic flow already.

I'm interested, can you send traffic info and asking price to: igal at bauch dot com

Thanks

stickyfingerz 01-19-2007 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimiJimi (Post 11753496)
OUCH that could cause some serious problems.

Ya the auctioneer started by saying 1 do I have 1, and someone bid, and I raised for 2 thinking 2,000.00 which I was going to bid maybe 8 to 10k on it was my limit. And he goes 200,000.00 and I started laughing at him. I bitched to the moniker guys a bit about that. If the reserve is on the sheet and there is a change it should of been either noted by the auctioneer or put up on the big screen by the domain name. Made me feel like an ass for a minute for sure. lol I really didnt figure Id get it, and it would probably go for 20k or more, but 100k or more was sure pushing it, and not surprisingly it didnt sell. lol

sevent 01-19-2007 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11755831)
Ya the auctioneer started by saying 1 do I have 1, and someone bid, and I raised for 2 thinking 2,000.00 which I was going to bid maybe 8 to 10k on it was my limit. And he goes 200,000.00 and I started laughing at him. I bitched to the moniker guys a bit about that. If the reserve is on the sheet and there is a change it should of been either noted by the auctioneer or put up on the big screen by the domain name. Made me feel like an ass for a minute for sure. lol I really didnt figure Id get it, and it would probably go for 20k or more, but 100k or more was sure pushing it, and not surprisingly it didnt sell. lol

A LOT of people were complaining about the reserves being different from what they'd seem listed. Seems like changing reserve at the last minute should get you a kick in the *

For the record here's the full list of names which failed to meet reserve, with high bid listed:

Frenchwhore.com 7K
Cheerleaders.org 7K
Goodgirls.com 25K
Mature.net 35K
Stripshows.com 11K
Amateuranalsex.com 5.5K
Sexcash.com 50K
Bordello.com 17.5K
Peepingtoms.com 17.5K
Homos.com 20K
Seminars.com 100K
Streaking.com 11K
Topless.org 2.5K
Penis.com 600K
Wifecaughtheating.com 3K
Catholicsshoolgirs.com 15K
Vice.com 36K
Brothels.com 45K
Sexshows.com 40K
Penissize.com 30K
Girlsonly.com 40K
Psychologists.com 100K
Breasts.org 45K
Cute.com 40K
Stripping.com 75K
Limousineservice.com 45K
Ussenate.com 40K
Fetish.com 600K
Privacy.com 700K
Dicksuck.net 2.5K
Fetishes.net 9K
69.net 15K
Ass.us 15K
Chicks.com 400K
Bigbreasts.com 100K
Blow.com 25K
Boob.com 80K
Clits.com 25K
Coed.net 6.5K
Specialoffer.com 100K
Downloadfreeporn.com 17K
Exciting.com 75K
Sexy.net 50K
Xxxsites.com 75K
Whore.net 23K
Vaginas.com 125K
Soliciting.com 7.5K
Adult.net 8.5K
Huh.com 15K
Nipples.com 100K
Pussycity.com 11.5K
Sexphotos.com 100K
Wackoff.com 12K
xxx.org 100K
winner.com 290K
tramps.com 8.5K
sexbar.com 35K
rectal.com 10K
privatebeach.com 25K
poopshute.com 4.5K
housewives.com 225K
cocks.com 285K
gogogirls.com 25K
fuc.com 115K
livechicks.com 30K
sexvideos.com 300K
xxxonline.com 45K
womb.com 25K
stripjoint.com 30K
mess.com 45K
slaves.com 145K
coedcash.com 5.5K
clit.net 6.5K
bigdick.com 250K
xxxmag.com 15K
ppagers.com 50K
penthouses.com 50K
nakedgirls.org 2.5K
bigtits.mobi 7K
metric.net 3.5K
striptease.net 4K
xv.net 15K
vintagemotorcycles.com 5K
tittybar.com 7K
dummy.com 25K
cock.com 200K
screwing.com 22K
twat.com 30K
porn.com 5KK
prostitutes.org 8K
businessletterhead.com 1.7K
xxxgay.com 20K
onlinemilfs.com 3K
collegedorm.com 25K
bigcock.com 300K
brandnewgirlfriend.com 1K
electronicorganizers.com 1K

stickyfingerz 01-19-2007 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sevent (Post 11757692)
A LOT of people were complaining about the reserves being different from what they'd seem listed. Seems like changing reserve at the last minute should get you a kick in the *

For the record here's the full list of names which failed to meet reserve, with high bid listed:

Frenchwhore.com 7K
Cheerleaders.org 7K
Goodgirls.com 25K
Mature.net 35K
Stripshows.com 11K
Amateuranalsex.com 5.5K
Sexcash.com 50K
Bordello.com 17.5K
Peepingtoms.com 17.5K
Homos.com 20K
Seminars.com 100K
Streaking.com 11K
Topless.org 2.5K
Penis.com 600K
Wifecaughtheating.com 3K
Catholicsshoolgirs.com 15K
Vice.com 36K
Brothels.com 45K
Sexshows.com 40K
Penissize.com 30K
Girlsonly.com 40K
Psychologists.com 100K
Breasts.org 45K
Cute.com 40K
Stripping.com 75K
Limousineservice.com 45K
Ussenate.com 40K
Fetish.com 600K
Privacy.com 700K
Dicksuck.net 2.5K
Fetishes.net 9K
69.net 15K
Ass.us 15K
Chicks.com 400K
Bigbreasts.com 100K
Blow.com 25K
Boob.com 80K
Clits.com 25K
Coed.net 6.5K
Specialoffer.com 100K
Downloadfreeporn.com 17K
Exciting.com 75K
Sexy.net 50K
Xxxsites.com 75K
Whore.net 23K
Vaginas.com 125K
Soliciting.com 7.5K
Adult.net 8.5K
Huh.com 15K
Nipples.com 100K
Pussycity.com 11.5K
Sexphotos.com 100K
Wackoff.com 12K
xxx.org 100K
winner.com 290K
tramps.com 8.5K
sexbar.com 35K
rectal.com 10K
privatebeach.com 25K
poopshute.com 4.5K
housewives.com 225K
cocks.com 285K
gogogirls.com 25K
fuc.com 115K
livechicks.com 30K
sexvideos.com 300K
xxxonline.com 45K
womb.com 25K
stripjoint.com 30K
mess.com 45K
slaves.com 145K
coedcash.com 5.5K
clit.net 6.5K
bigdick.com 250K
xxxmag.com 15K
ppagers.com 50K
penthouses.com 50K
nakedgirls.org 2.5K
bigtits.mobi 7K
metric.net 3.5K
striptease.net 4K
xv.net 15K
vintagemotorcycles.com 5K
tittybar.com 7K
dummy.com 25K
cock.com 200K
screwing.com 22K
twat.com 30K
porn.com 5KK
prostitutes.org 8K
businessletterhead.com 1.7K
xxxgay.com 20K
onlinemilfs.com 3K
collegedorm.com 25K
bigcock.com 300K
brandnewgirlfriend.com 1K
electronicorganizers.com 1K

Yes fuc.com went from 1-5000.00 to 115k lol. That was what I was bidding on.

Taboo 01-23-2007 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultseo (Post 11746531)
I would expect that PornClub.com is worth a lot more then $11.000!

A good site on that domain would easily generate tenfold per month?


I'm glad I own ClubPorn.com - probably saving that one for the next auction... along with BoobJobs.com & VIPCLUB.com (if anyone's interested email me in sig) :winkwink:


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