Reckless Operation - Worth Fighting? - GoFuckYourself.com

Ace-Ace · 07-27-2002, 10:31 PM

Hey,

Do you think it's worth fighting a reckless operation charge? Let me explain the scenario (this is 100% truthful). I was behind a friend (ricer - Ford Probe, blue neons, straight pipes (loud as shit), and a spoiler); so right there, his car draws attention (I'm in a 99 Camaro RS).

Behind him at the top light, me and my friend Jake decide "hey, lets not go to the place we're going, but lets go here instead". So off of the light, I go around him, and get in front of him to turn left, but then realize "this isn't the right way" so I go back in the right lane...and turn into a parking lot to turn around.

At no point was I ever over the speed limit, I signaled all 3 lane changes, never squealed tires, tailgated, jerked the car, or cut him off.

That IS the honest truth, and I was cited for 'reckless operation' because we were 'racing'. Do you think this is worth fighting in court? It would be my first offence of any sort.

Let Me Know,
Thanks,
Kevin

hyper · 07-27-2002, 10:36 PM

If the cop didnt believe you..
what makes you think the judge will?

kosmic · 07-27-2002, 10:43 PM

That sux. Definatly fight it, cause it is points. you dont need a lawyer or anything. I have had several tickets for drag racing in philly. You have a 50 50 chance of beating it at the first court you go to. If you dont beat it, then file for an appeal. Chances that you will beat it at appeal court are very likely. But even if you dont beat it right away you still postponed your insurance rates going up. PS file for as many continuances as you can before finally appearing in court.

good luck

Shoplifter · 07-27-2002, 10:48 PM

I can't get it all from your story..But changing lanes in an intersection while dressed like the dude in the "Pretty Fly For A White Guy" video is a sure bust.

Ace-Ace · 07-27-2002, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shoplifter
I can't get it all from your story..But changing lanes in an intersection while dressed like the dude in the "Pretty Fly For A White Guy" video is a sure bust.

Nice Camaro bashing. But aside from that, lanes were changed after the intersection - not in the middle of it.

Dildozer · 07-27-2002, 11:12 PM

I'd rather have a 300 hp camaro than any neon-lights ricer or *laugh* ford probe

Ace-Ace · 07-28-2002, 11:09 AM

Away from the topic again, it's a 99 RS (200 HP / 225 torque); but I'd still rather have it than probe.

Any other suggestions from anyone?

Pipecrew · 07-28-2002, 11:11 AM

rice racer isnt a guy with a ford probe, a guy who supes up a ford probe has too much time on his hands!

i'd fight it, or say hi to insurance premiums out of this world

letshunt · 07-28-2002, 12:22 PM

You can find it, but you get smoked. Your word against a cops in traffic court is about as useful as shit. Save your time and money pay the stupid fine and chalk it up to experience

TopTGP · 07-28-2002, 12:27 PM

People that drag race on city streets deserve to be impaled with a spike. You're either going to end up killing yourself or someone else. Sure, you may think you wont, and it will not happen to you, but when it does, and you take out a family of 4 because your to fucking imature to control your need for speed, you'll wish you were never born.

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jimmy3way · 07-28-2002, 12:31 PM

If you don't fight it you have to pay.

If you do fight it, you might win, but if you lose, you only have to pay. It's not like you pay more.

It is your RIGHT to fight it, bro. Exercise that shit.

Scootermuze · 07-28-2002, 01:08 PM

You might be able to win that fight.. if you did as you say you did, then the cop couldn't be absolutely certain that you were racing.
You could argue that he assumed that you were racing because of the makes of the cars and the noise.
Your word against his basically..
Judges don't always side with the cops..

Morgan · 07-28-2002, 01:18 PM

My little 4 banger has over 200 HP. Soon to be approx. 300 HP

ChrisH · 07-28-2002, 01:56 PM

Ace,
Fight it. Reckless is very hard to prove for the state. If you fight it you may get it reduced to Careless, which is a huge difference.

yys · 07-28-2002, 02:09 PM

Get yourself a lawyer; they almost always have the charges reduced for you.

07-27-2002, 10:31 PM	#1
Ace-Ace Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Dayton, OH, USA Posts: 1,863	Reckless Operation - Worth Fighting? Hey, Do you think it's worth fighting a reckless operation charge? Let me explain the scenario (this is 100% truthful). I was behind a friend (ricer - Ford Probe, blue neons, straight pipes (loud as shit), and a spoiler); so right there, his car draws attention (I'm in a 99 Camaro RS). Behind him at the top light, me and my friend Jake decide "hey, lets not go to the place we're going, but lets go here instead". So off of the light, I go around him, and get in front of him to turn left, but then realize "this isn't the right way" so I go back in the right lane...and turn into a parking lot to turn around. At no point was I ever over the speed limit, I signaled all 3 lane changes, never squealed tires, tailgated, jerked the car, or cut him off. That IS the honest truth, and I was cited for 'reckless operation' because we were 'racing'. Do you think this is worth fighting in court? It would be my first offence of any sort. Let Me Know, Thanks, Kevin __________________ JamPlay.com - Online, video-based guitar lessons

07-27-2002, 10:36 PM	#2
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	If the cop didnt believe you.. what makes you think the judge will? __________________

07-27-2002, 10:43 PM	#3
kosmic Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Philly Posts: 871	That sux. Definatly fight it, cause it is points. you dont need a lawyer or anything. I have had several tickets for drag racing in philly. You have a 50 50 chance of beating it at the first court you go to. If you dont beat it, then file for an appeal. Chances that you will beat it at appeal court are very likely. But even if you dont beat it right away you still postponed your insurance rates going up. PS file for as many continuances as you can before finally appearing in court. good luck __________________ Ya-Mean Productions

07-27-2002, 11:12 PM	#6
Dildozer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,519	I'd rather have a 300 hp camaro than any neon-lights ricer or laugh ford probe __________________ Spam link here

07-28-2002, 11:09 AM	#7
Ace-Ace Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Dayton, OH, USA Posts: 1,863	Away from the topic again, it's a 99 RS (200 HP / 225 torque); but I'd still rather have it than probe. Any other suggestions from anyone? __________________ JamPlay.com - Online, video-based guitar lessons

07-27-2002, 10:48 PM	#4
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,730	I can't get it all from your story..But changing lanes in an intersection while dressed like the dude in the "Pretty Fly For A White Guy" video is a sure bust.

07-28-2002, 11:11 AM	#8
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	rice racer isnt a guy with a ford probe, a guy who supes up a ford probe has too much time on his hands! i'd fight it, or say hi to insurance premiums out of this world

07-28-2002, 12:22 PM	#9
letshunt Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 196	You can find it, but you get smoked. Your word against a cops in traffic court is about as useful as shit. Save your time and money pay the stupid fine and chalk it up to experience __________________ The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his. -George Patton

07-28-2002, 12:27 PM	#10
TopTGP Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: poco, BC, Canada Posts: 546	People that drag race on city streets deserve to be impaled with a spike. You're either going to end up killing yourself or someone else. Sure, you may think you wont, and it will not happen to you, but when it does, and you take out a family of 4 because your to fucking imature to control your need for speed, you'll wish you were never born. my __________________ I can't think of anything funny to say..

07-28-2002, 12:31 PM	#11
jimmy3way Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Top Secret Hideout Posts: 2,508	If you don't fight it you have to pay. If you do fight it, you might win, but if you lose, you only have to pay. It's not like you pay more. It is your RIGHT to fight it, bro. Exercise that shit. __________________ One thing, I forgot this last detail: the Biz Markie will always prevail.

07-28-2002, 01:08 PM	#12
Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	You might be able to win that fight.. if you did as you say you did, then the cop couldn't be absolutely certain that you were racing. You could argue that he assumed that you were racing because of the makes of the cars and the noise. Your word against his basically.. Judges don't always side with the cops..

07-28-2002, 01:18 PM	#13
Morgan Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Corona Del Mar, CA Posts: 10,520	My little 4 banger has over 200 HP. Soon to be approx. 300 HP

07-28-2002, 01:56 PM	#14
ChrisH Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,355	Ace, Fight it. Reckless is very hard to prove for the state. If you fight it you may get it reduced to Careless, which is a huge difference.

07-28-2002, 02:09 PM	#15
yys Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,922	Get yourself a lawyer; they almost always have the charges reduced for you.