US Civilians Now Eligible for Military Trials -- Thx Bush!

[fuzzylogic]

An amendment to a spending bill has made it possible for US civilians to be charged in a military court. The last minute addition to the bill was sponsored by Senator Lindsey Graham. The bill has been signed into law by the president.

Under the new arrangements civilian government employees and journalists can be prosecuted under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Previously this could only be done during a declared war. The law is likely to face constitutional challenge.

Senator Graham said, "Right now, you have two different standards for people doing the same job. This will bring uniformity to the commander's ability to control the behavior of people representing our country."

THX BUSH!


source: http://www.newsdaily.com

[tony286]

thats crazy shit , wait where is Sticky to defend this lol

[DaddyHalbucks]

If civilians betray our country, why shouldn't they be held accountable?

[JD]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

If civilians betray our country, why shouldn't they be held accountable?

um what? stfu. If a civilian is guilty of treason or similar then they're treated as a traitor already. This opens a whole can of some VERY ugly worms...

[biftek]

allows them to hold the "suspect" for years without a trial guilty until proven innocent

[interracialtoons]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

If civilians betray our country, why shouldn't they be held accountable?

No problem. Hold them accountable to a civilian court with all rights granted to a citizen. They don't need to sit in Guatanimo bay for 3 years without a lawyer or a trial if there is proof they did something.

They only need to sit there if we don't have any proof and we'd like to punish them now hoping some proof will be discovered someday.

[fuzzylogic]

laws like this keep those in power in power!

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by tony404

thats crazy shit , wait where is Sticky to defend this lol

He is sucking DaddyHallbucks and Splum cocks ...

[pussyluver]

Originally Posted by interracialtoons

No problem. Hold them accountable to a civilian court with all rights granted to a citizen. They don't need to sit in Guatanimo bay for 3 years without a lawyer or a trial if there is proof they did something.

They only need to sit there if we don't have any proof and we'd like to punish them now hoping some proof will be discovered someday.

It is past time for a strong third party. Perhaps the Libertarians? Clearly things are out of hand. We seem to be jumping from a representative republic, skipping over socialism and going head on into totalitarism.

The sky is falling again.

[wyldworx]

Buy a case of beer, a shovel, and take him for a drink in the bush, show that fucker just how disgruntel you are!

[Scottish Guy]

I suppose this is to tackle new terrorist threats? 9/11 seems to have given your country some bad ass super powers

[interracialtoons]

Originally Posted by Scottish Guy

I suppose this is to tackle new terrorist threats? 9/11 seems to have given your country some bad ass super powers

Hey, we do have some "bad ass powers"...I mean, after all we turned Iraq into a chaotic wasteland, turned North Korea into a nuclear power and Iran will follow. Come one, who's got a more powerful record than that.

[Webby]

Damned insurgents on this thread creating a fuss

So... is this what they call democracy, "our freedoms" and values?? Hardly a surprise people in the Middle East are so jealous and the world looks on in awe

Only rogue regimes bend laws and have citizens answerable to military courts - Young George is treating his title of "Commander-In-Chief" too seriously Let's get real - he's a total asshole - buy him a military unform with lots of gold braid and he can pose in front of a mirror and get off on it...

What a pathetically sad government... that downwards spiral is gathering speed.

[rowan]

Am I misunderstanding or can the govt add anything they want to a bill with a specific focus?

[Webby]

Originally Posted by rowan

Am I misunderstanding or can the govt add anything they want to a bill with a specific focus?

It's a totally fucked scenario rowan... pass a law on healthcare and stuff a clause on the end to go to war with... well... anybody

Doubt they could stick to the point and write one clean piece of legislation without fucking it up...

[pornguy]

Hmm. well since congress gave Bush the war declaration a few years ago, I dont see why he needed that.

Good chance he did not even know it was in there

[bareskin]

Originally Posted by wyldworx

Buy a case of beer, a shovel, and take him for a drink in the bush, show that fucker just how disgruntel you are!

I would agree but the goverment might track my IP so no comment

[SmokeyTheBear]

they can also take you offshore try you without a lawyer , convict you and give you the death penalty without informing anybody..

[DWB]

It's a good thing I'm a lazy Mexican....

[directfiesta]

Nothing wrong ... it is just the program getting installed ....

Gonzales: Judges unfit to rule on terror policy
Attorney general says federal jurists should defer to president's will

WASHINGTON - Attorney General Alberto Gonzales says federal judges are unqualified to make rulings affecting national security policy, ramping up his criticism of how they handle terrorism cases.

In remarks prepared for delivery Wednesday, Gonzales says judges generally should defer to the will of the president and Congress when deciding national security cases. He also raps jurists who ?apply an activist philosophy that stretches the law to suit policy preferences.?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16668110/

Makes sense .... Judges have no education, no experience, no balance, no culture ... but BUSH has ...

He proved afterall his competence since his election...

Long life to the IV Reich

[Lazonby]

Sweet. It's about time the US learned how to deal with it's traitors. I hope they deal with the New York Times first, then the Washington Post.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by Lazonby

Sweet. It's about time the US learned how to deal with it's traitors. I hope they deal with the New York Times first, then the Washington Post.

There are idiots - then there is Lazonby who never quite reaches the idiot level. You really have a severe mental deficiency don't you?? *LOL*

[tranza]

This thread is just too funny...

[ElvisManson]

Originally Posted by pussyluver

It is past time for a strong third party. Perhaps the Libertarians? Clearly things are out of hand. We seem to be jumping from a representative republic, skipping over socialism and going head on into totalitarism.

The sky is falling again.

The Electoral College, and single member districts in Congress, help support a two-party system by making it less worth while for minor parties to run and making it less likely people will donate money to a party with little or no chance of winning anything.

Compare our system to any of the multi-member district system in Japan, Italy, France, etc. They end up with a multitude of parties making it hard to form a majority government. In the 20 or 30 years after World War II, Italy averaged a new government every year.

The few third parties that got started here (Populists in the 1890's and American Independent in the 1960s's and 1970s) ended when one of the major parties adopted their ideas. With this ability to influence the major parties' positions without destabilizing the government, it is not really an oligarchy. The leaders are not immune from the ideas and demands made by minor parties

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by ElvisManson

The Electoral College, and single member districts in Congress, help support a two-party system by making it less worth while for minor parties to run and making it less likely people will donate money to a party with little or no chance of winning anything.

Compare our system to any of the multi-member district system in Japan, Italy, France, etc. They end up with a multitude of parties making it hard to form a majority government. In the 20 or 30 years after World War II, Italy averaged a new government every year.

The few third parties that got started here (Populists in the 1890's and American Independent in the 1960s's and 1970s) ended when one of the major parties adopted their ideas. With this ability to influence the major parties' positions without destabilizing the government, it is not really an oligarchy. The leaders are not immune from the ideas and demands made by minor parties

Also, today, starting a third party with a different ideology would most likely be considered treason and persecuted....

Opposing the war has got a bunch of groups under surveillance ....

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

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