That's horseshit.. You're saying that because of lies & bullshit spread & started by that Franck fuck.. I have Visa.. HAVE VISA.. what is it with you fuckin morons.,., Stop paying attention to what that fucking dutch twink says..
I fucking have visa you tool!

The Vika Love site has no Visa logo on it. Perhaps you should let your surfers know they can pay with Visa.

spacedog: stop selling your paxil to pay for gallery contests. You are spazzing again, so it looks like you need to take it, not sell it.

Get a clue.. site's only been online for a couple days now.. you know very well that it can take up to 30 days for visa to activate. now obviously if the 1st site has visa, then the 2nd will also.

Why put it live if it has no Visa though? And Visa is the least of your concerns. The design is straight out of 1999.

God, you are a moron. Really fucked up.

I know the design is bad.. not once do you see me here defending or justifying the design,, IT HAS TO BE LIVE for visa to approve it.. jeezuz..

As far as it being on program, didn't have it on their til late late last night early this morning.. what.. I can't edit my own shit & get stuff ready.. I already said a new design was on the table, but no one listens,, they only hear what they want to hear, whatever is convenient to them.

See how fast Franck took down his site when I posted link to it.. because he is a hypocrite.. nothing but a liar, a troublemaker with no balls
He is too much of a pussy to take what he dishes out to others..

But why not just get a design from the start? I dont know of any program that puts out a site with a design like that only to wait for another. Seriously man, if you cant afford a few hundred bucks for a decent design, you shouldnt be running a program.

Because the site needed a fucking place holder for visa to look at.. jesus fucking christ what is wrong with you people,,, fucking read you idiots..

He's got Visa. I'm guessing this one is just waiting on approval. I've had that take me 3 days and I've had it take almost 2 weeks.

As for everything else, spacedog seems to be about 3 steps ahead of himself, while being a few steps behind at the same time. You're going about things completely wrong and putting yourself in the line of fire by posting here.

Worry about your sites and making money from your traffic. No one (here, at least) will be sending you any traffic. Focus on your sites and your traffic and not so much the affiliate program.

Yes spacedog, Im an idiot. Youve been in adult for how many years and cant afford a fucking designer.

Yes I am ahead of myself here.. scuse me if I jump the gun abit sometimes.
BUT.. I have MY plan, MY goals, & I learn by DOING IT!

As far as your quip about how many years I've been in this biz.. I started from zero, from scratch, from nothing, in Sept 2005. yeah.. lot's of years

Someone once said
What works for you works for you.. what works for him works for him, but this does not mean what works for you will work for me,

Then by all means, do what you think will work best for you. Just do yourself a favor and DON'T do it here. You open yourself to all this shit and just make it worse by responding. Save yourself the trouble and keep your business off of GFY. Even when people offer you advice and help, you jump back at them all defensively. You're not going to get any business done here.

I cant believe you are hosting your entire program on a 10 dollar a month shared hosting plan from 1and1. Seriously man, is this all some big joke to gain sig views or something?

You serious?

This thead proves the old saying some people are just beyond help.

holy 1997 batman!

looks like a daram thread not a contest one.

my site design sucks and it converts very well. I would try it before you bash it.

Yes Franck, I am serious. He is on a shared plan at 1and1. Their highest shared plan is 10 dollars a month. You can view it on whois.sc and it will tell you that his site is shared with nearly 400 other domanis.

Who gives a flying fuck where I host & how many sites are on the server.
and you're wrong by the way. It's not $10 smartass.. they're running a special for new customers.. yep.. you can get 250 gigs space & 2500 gigs bandwidth per month by signing up right here.

Wtf do I need a box for right now anyway.. and more to the point, what the fuck does this have to do with this threads topic. this thread was supposed to be about designers & a contest for THEM!!

Now, kindly fuck off :321GFY

spacedog.... icq please

So what happens if one of your affiliates gets you up on a major TGP? What happens if someone decides to push you real hard? You offer 90 percent for those who can send a lot of joins, but your host will never be able to handle that kind of traffic. Why are you having $150 gallery contests when you should be spending your money on regular design and hosting?

It looks to me like you woke up one day and said hey, if I build a program Ill be accepted on GFY and part of the elite crowd. Ill do contests and promos and all that other fun stuff and look like a player. Its more important to look cool and have a gallery contest than to put your sites on a real host. Its more important to play around pretending to be a program owner on GFY than it is to buy a simple design for your site.

Seriously man, get your priorities straight. If you did somehow get affiliates, youd be fucking them over the minute they sent any major traffic to your sites.

Hope the best wins, goodluck:thumbsup

spacedog.. seriously. the less you talk in the coming months, the better you will be. be quiet. work on your sites. build your own traffic.. try to understand the game a little and stop making "look at me" announcements when you should be wanting anyone to look at anything you have.

First of all, you're way out of line here & extremely off topic. If you enjoy suckin on Francks cock so much, please do so in a different thread.

This thread is not about me, my sites, my program, my hosting company, other sites I own, other sites of mine on my server, or any other fucking business.. This thread is about fucking gallery designs & that is all!!

Now quit assuming to know anything at all about me, my business, motives, plans or whatever & go finish sucking off Franck elsewhere.

Shared hosts that blatantly oversell, like 1&1 and Dreamhost, are notorious for suspending/cancelling accounts that go anywhere near their bandwith limits.

Like or not, Common Sense has a point. His TGP example is excellent, but here's another example. Imagine someone who has a vendetta against you starts hitbotting or hotlinking your site. Your host will shut you down in an instant. Pretty shitty thing to happen to you and your affiliates.

I'm not arguing his point at all, just the relevancy.. Dude's just using this thread to take cheap shots just like his cocksucking lover Franck.

I haven't even finished doing alot of this & every chance fuckers like Franck & his posse get, they jump on my shit like flies..

I know my shit is far from perfect & has it's flaws, but it's not for these fools to point them out to me.. I work them on MY terms.

Do you think I learned what I know because anyone told me how?
Absolutely not. I did it the fucking hard way. I learned it by actually doing it, by trial & error. Sure many people helped out with various issues, but the ONLY way to learn is to by actually DOING it & that's what these fuckers have a problem with.

personally.. I don't give a flying fuck if Franck, or any other webmaster says the site design sucks.. because I know it does,, but that is coming from a webmasters persective, NOT the surfers.
I know many of "the big guys" have their own boxes, but I am not at that point yet, so what fucking difference does it make right now..

These fuckers didn't ask me if I planned on staying there.. all they do is assume to know all the answers to my fucking business.

Christ, these fuckers attack every small startup? No.. they personally seek me out to deliberately attack.

Running a teen program with this hosting company could be a little risky. Better hope there's no teddy bears or schoolgirl outfits!

"You agree and warrant that you will neither store on nor allow to be transmitted by 1&1's Equipment any data or other matter which constitutes, contains or links to child pornography or which involves depictions of nudity or sexuality by an age-inappropriate-looking performer (i.e. someone who looks younger than eighteen years of age, regardless of their actual age) or by a performer who is portrayed or made to appear as a person under the age of eighteen years of age by virtue of the advertising, script, make-up, demeanor, costuming, setting, etc., or which could otherwise result from or cause harm to minors."

why not host the website somewhere else ?

I have never in my life seen a person acting so damn stupid. Never ever.

Dude, that's everyone's point. You're linking your shit all over the place and it's either not finished or done in a way that's so half assed that no one wants to work with you.

Forget about GFY and work on your traffic and your sites. You're trying too hard and only falling even more behind.

Hey you cunt.. remember where you came from!!! Fucking Hypocrite.

with every single post you make, a few more people will remember you as a guy they never want to do business with.

don't quit your day job!

I think this is the first time this year that I agree with Franck.

they do have a point - if an affiliate does decide to start driving traffic to it you will get shut down or have to move if your on a shared box. it will save you headaches in the long run to get your own box.

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/74a5e26589.jpg
and that's that. probably the first post ontopic:D

since the guy doesnt want any help and if you guys are in a such helping mood, tell me how to make money, i dont mind:)

everytime someone asks for help i can see pages with replies like "fuck off, there are enough newbies already", and when help is not wanted, everybody starts giving it. how weird is that:)

wowzer:

ripespringcherries.com
82.165.133.48
there are 335 domains on this IP, click here to get them all

jeez man, that is not a good idea at all

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You do have a way with words that surely will get you a bunch of new affiliates... I have no idea why I'm doing this, you clearly don't listen to good advice, but I will give you some pointers you REALLY should read.

I DO remember exactly where we came from. We started our first paysite after years of reading, trying and listening to advice from other people. We had no big company backing us financially, everything we have today comes from earning money in this biz via our own sites. Been doing TGPs and galleries for a while to build up our own traffic first.

If you don't have your own traffic source, it's going to be damn hard to make a profitable paysite. Affiliates send traffic to sites that they believe in, and to be honest, your stuff isn't really up to par with today's standards.

Before you make threads like this, make sure you have everything up and running. How will a serious designer be able to make you a gallery if he/she doesn't even know how the paysite will look like? You need a gallery that will have the same feel as the site itself.

You can bash me as much as you want later, and use all the dirty words you can think of, but PLEASE read this list first:

* LISTEN to what people are telling you. Most of them don't hate you, they are trying to help you because they feel sorry for you.

* GET HOSTING. If I had been in a bad mood I'd IMG SRC your sorry little sites off the internet just for calling me a cunt. Next time you say something stupid to a person you might not be this lucky.

* HIRE A DESIGNER. Your design sucks. There's a reason everybody in this thread keep telling you this, it's because it's true. Not just this site, but all your sites. If you can't afford a designer right away, don't offer $150 in contest prices.

* WORK. Make your sites ready before you post anything more about them. Be sure to wait until VISA aproves you and stuff like that. A potential affiliate who checks out the site won't know that VISA is looking at the site, he'll just notice no VISA and then move on.

* GROW UP and work on your manners. Try being humble instead to the people who try to help you. Remember, you need affiliates to make money, and what might have worked for Pimpdogg in 2002 is not working for you today.

Read this, do as I say, and one day you too might have a very profitable program...

kinder, and more true, words have never been spoken

listen to what she says SpaceDog, EVERYTHING she said is SPOT on

Anna, I'm sorry that I snapped at you, but I am on the defensive because of this shit.

Nobody seems to notice that I am not disagreeing with them.
I know the site sucks. I know the shared server is not the best idea, but I certainly like 2500 gigs better than the measly 250 gigs a box will give me & I certainly need to cut corners for the time being til everything is complete.

No one seems to get the fact that this is a damn work in progress, something that is not even completed yet..

When I post a question & ask for tips, advice, opinions, it goes unanswered, or I am told to fuck off, or some idiot with a Jr high mentality like Franck comes in with moron antics & turns it into a drama thread.. sooooo.. what then? Then spacedog comes up with ingenious plan to just post shit with links for people to just see shit & guess what? My fucking gfy monkeys TELL ME EVERYTHING I WANT TO KNOW, WITHOUT ASKING A THING :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


Hardly anyone in this biz is going to give away secrets, tell you everything you need to know, etc, etc.. But I do what I do, & I get the answers I want.


Now, can we leave all the bullshit out of this fucking thread. This thread was only about OTHER PEOPLES DESIGNS.. Not about me, my site, program, my shitty design, etc.. It was merely a fun contest for designers to see who can do what under the circumstances & that is all.

and btw Anna, don't take all this as directed to you because I quoted you. Do understand that I AGREE with what you're telling me & it is noted, but alas, I do what I do & have my reasons & it is part of my plan & has it's purpose, which does work.

Wow... the truth is revealed. Spacedog is actually the great manipulator of GFY. at first we thought he was just a fumbling monkey, bent on making everyone think he is a complete idiot, when in fact, the opposite was true. We now know he is a genius. A brilliant man brilliantly hiding behind a mountain of idiotic remarks, arrogance and what everyone mistakingly views as complete and total incompetence.

i for one, have been humbled on this day.

Nope, not at all, but I get answers nonetheless.
from time to time, people will point out certain things & I then correct them & adapt & then move on to the next thing.

Before, I would just ask & it just did not work that often, wheras this way, it works much better. :winkwink:


Like I said many times.. I learn by DOING..
How does one get feedback on ANYTHING if it is not viewable & open to public scrutiny.

instead of learning as you go and expecting affiliates to lose money because of your faults, you should have learned on your own without creating a public affiliate program

thats how you have chosen to rationalize being beat down time and time again. you didnt start a thread announcing 80% payouts because you were looking for info. in fact, you were totally dumbfounded at the response.

every answer, every arrogant response and ever reply attempting to defend yourself simply confirm that you truly don't "get it" and probably won't. if you did get it, you would just stop posting, start working and stop burning bridges and making yourself look incompetent to the very people you hoped to do business with.

all you have done so far is announce to the webmaster world that you are a complete and total disaster and then continued even further to leave absolutely no room for misinterpretation.

You're wrong 100%. I did post 80% payouts. :1orglaugh
Now let's see what happened as a result.

1) tour to site was changed & made better
2) Affilate site changes were made
3) Site/program got visa.


So, let's recap here..
If it is my goal to have paysites with program, how else will I learn certain aspects & find faults & flaws if I am not actually DOING it?

Nobody is going to just GIVE me all the answers here & often one may ask certain things & answers never come & it's often speculation, however, I decided to do it & use it as a learning tool.

Sure there's no big bandwagon jumping on to send me traffic, but guess what, there are some & it is selling & it is manageable with what I have & as things are discovered or pointed out, it will be corrected.

Also, bear in mind that there's many questions that one might not have even considered & new things are pointed out that I may have overlooked.

I'd rather take the risk right now with a self built start up with minimal investment & make adjustments as flaws are found & LEARN the right things to do than go all out with a riskier investment only to find out afterwards that it was wrong. I will build this & learn as I go & make it work. No ifs ands or buts!!

Let's put it another way. I am not no big program or traffic giant with sizable cash flow who can go all out with 100k & outsource all the work to everyone else & get it all done at once. I am a regular webmaster like most, who has only been an affiliate of others, working & learning more & continually adapting & improving. I wanted to do this & I will continue with this, but I am doing it with the tools & resources available to me at the moment & making my best effort here and it WILL work.

Let's have a look at this way..

Say you're at a meeting at an advertising agency..
There's a room full of ad execs, designers, copyrighters, etc..
One of the ad execs is giving a presentation.. let's assume his presentation is fucking horrible..

Do you really think all the other execs are going to be sitting there pointing their fingers at him going "haha, you're a fuckin moron" "OMG what an idiot" "Your shit sucks" "Get a fucking real job", lol..

Give me a fucking break here.. I don't get on the defensive & arrogrant when people provide feedback, I get arrogant & defensive in regards to the methods of how the feedback is presented. I prefer it to be in a professional & business like manner where it can be constructive as well as educational & i can then take those points & apply them, but because of the manner people choose to use to make themselves feel bigger, to make themselves feel more important, to get their sigwhore views, or to just piss on people, my arrogance comes out only towards them.


It is far different & has extremely different effects when one simply comes out & says, "that design looks horrible? You should get a new design" than when someone comes out & says, "Jesus, look at this, what a fucking idiot, you're so fucking stupid" etc, etc..

Where with the first example it then becomes a discussion with possible followup such as, "I know it sucks & a new design is being worked on", or "well, what specifically sucks about it" or any other manner of constructive feedback & discussion, however, with the latter it becomes more of an offensive commited by a few against one left to fight off & defend & gets ugly thereafter.

Meanwhile, while the manner of discussion & presentation of feedback is certainly ugly, valid points are taken into account & suggestions are applied, however, gfy being as it is, this seems to be the only way to ever get feedback period.

In regards to your "stop posting, start working, stop burning bridges", you are wrong. because of posts that go wrong like this, new fucking bridges are opened that allow more business to get done.

When that Visa discussion got ugly & out of hand, the thread you specified, that opened more bridges & I now have a partner working with me, making this venture a team effort rather than an individual one. It has also opened the doors to other revenue streams for this project that I was not aware of previous to those discussions.

Oh god, why did I even bother... :Oh crap

Spacedog what is the point of making galleries when the site design is not up?
Now I know I cant help you because you will not listen.
Galleries need to be as close as posable to the paysite design so when the surfer clicks from your gallery he finds what he is expecting more of same he clicked because he liked what he saw and wants more.
To run a contest corectly you should zip folders of content online and easy to download. You should have some psp files of your FINISHED design ziped so they can be downloaded as well.
Why would I spend a few hours and make a kick ass gallery template when I cant take you seriuosly

hey has anyody created a gallery?