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gothweb · 07-26-2002, 08:47 PM

This is gonna look like spam... but it is a genuine question. I am totally new to making and promoting galleries on TGPs, but I would like to get started. I have some small galleries as pages in my tour, and I was wondering if people think they are submittable? And if so, where would be good?

http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/a...-vamp/samples/
http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/angie/samples/
http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/bianca/samples/
http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/claire/samples/
http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/gemmyc/samples/
http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/jenny/samples/
http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/saviya/samples/
http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/undine/samples/
http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/vail/samples/

Do you think many places will accept these? Where should I try promoting them, if anywhere? Your feedback would be hugely appreciated.

(I will be making galleries just for TGPs later. Don't worry. I am just seeing if I will be able to use what I have now, before I am able to make more galleries.)

(Slightly spammy, but I might as well add this since the listof URLs is right here... You can link to these pages directly using our partner program, and get a % of the sales they generate on both of my sites. So if you do snag these URLs, at least make yourself a few bucks with them.)

the Shemp · 07-26-2002, 09:11 PM

Tgps dont normally link to pages within tours. I suggest you make some real galleries,

regards

shemp

B40 · 07-26-2002, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the Shemp
Tgps dont normally link to pages within tours. I suggest you make some real galleries,

regards

shemp

Yeah what he said.

Brad Mitchell · 07-26-2002, 11:42 PM

Shemp knows TGPs

You have great design styles Gothweb... surf some TGPs and come up with your own flavored template. I'm sure you would be able to sell some memberships. Just make sure you don't whore out too much of your content, perhaps repeat what is already in your free areas. Also, since you're 100% exclusive make sure you stamp your images or something.

I think you should do lots of TGPs so I can sell you more bandwidth

Brad

LiveDose · 07-26-2002, 11:43 PM

If you are promoting your own site and content and it isn't over exposed you should have no problem getting a nice click through rate from normal tgp compliant galleries.

I would focus more on doing the galleries so they get listed with some of the bigger sites. BTW, nice clean pages

LD

gothweb · 07-27-2002, 08:51 AM

Brad- I'd like to be doing well enough to be buying more bandwidth from you too, don't worry.

Everyone - Thanks for the feedback. Looks like I will be doing some gallery templates along the lines of my tour design, once I can spare the time. Does anyone have any recommendations? Number of pics, linking to pages or images, etc? Any help would be hugely appreciated, so I can make the most of the time I have.

gezzed · 07-27-2002, 11:21 AM

I suggest you check out the galleries here:

http://www.darklandstudios.com/samples/

These guys really look like they got their shit together.

kenny · 07-27-2002, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gezzed
I suggest you check out the galleries here:

http://www.darklandstudios.com/samples/

These guys really look like they got their shit together.

Those are nice, those are the kind you buy top spots for

yys · 07-27-2002, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gezzed
I suggest you check out the galleries here:

http://www.darklandstudios.com/samples/

These guys really look like they got their shit together.

Any idea what the price for one of these is?

gothweb · 07-27-2002, 01:43 PM

I have started work on TGPs... the first generation template will be based on my site design. This means it is pretty simple, I suppose... Keeping in mind that this is a work in progress...

What do you think? http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/template.html

There would be nine of those, one for each girl. I will be editing them for maximum compatibility with TGP rules, and making separate copies for some tweaks and referrals, etc. What do you think?

Steve · 07-27-2002, 07:49 PM

don't link to pics on html pages - I doubt there are 5 TGPs out there that send decent hits who will allow this.

Your content is nice, very original - why not focus more on the model? Right now, it is more like a 1/2 page ad with some funky little thumbs.

Use 14-20 pics, and keep it series - that will help a lot.

Having those links going to indiviual tour pages are great - BUT, most tgps with penalyze you for so many outgoing links off the gallery. Better to work them up for a single model, and just push her + your main page. 2-5 outgoing links, with 5, sadly, being a stretch these days.

kmanrox · 07-27-2002, 07:51 PM

yes, also dont have your images come up in html pages, most tgps dont allow that

gothweb · 07-28-2002, 01:04 PM

I have been working, and have some new galleries ready. These are still what I consider first phase, using elements of my site design to make the process quicker and easier. Later on, I will be trying other things.

These versions still link to images on HTML pages. I wasn't sure how many places forbid that. (I am curious... Why??) I will work up versions of these same galleries that go directly to the images.

http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/angie.html
http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/angelica-vamp.html
http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/bianca.html
http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/claire.html
http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/gemmyc.html
http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/jenny.html
http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/saviya.html
http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/undine.html
http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/vail.html

Are these better? What should I work on to fix these up before finding them loving homes out there on the web? Thanks to everyone for all the help, I appreciate it!

the Shemp · 07-28-2002, 01:23 PM

Gothweb,

Steve and Kman said it....
Most TGP webmasters arent even going to see your galleries.
You've got way more outing links than pix and your pix are on .html pages. The script will eliminate you right off the bat, man.
Your going to have to conform if you want some traffic

regards

shemp

Tipsy · 07-28-2002, 01:34 PM

You've really gotta read the replies above mate. Even 5 links out of the page are too many for a lot of TGP's these days (I wont post my views on that). Many of the real big guys only allow 2.

If you look at those TGP samples that were posted above it's sort of how you need to go. Notice that there's few links out on them (many only have the 2) but they are designed to make the buggers click on those 2 links.

gezzed · 07-28-2002, 05:21 PM

On an unrelated note, gothweb...please get in touch with me on ICQ: we gotta chat.

126732745

gothweb · 07-28-2002, 05:28 PM

What's the phrase? "Back to the old drawing board..."

Thanks everyone. I see I have a lot to learn. Thank you all for your suggestions. Hopefully I will be able to come back soon with designs that show I have learned a thing or two from you all. I really appreciate the feedback. You guys didn't have to waste your time on a newbie like me, and it's cool that you bothered.

gothweb · 07-28-2002, 06:32 PM

I'm back at this now, and I have a couple of questions...

For links out, is the best bet two links total? Or two image links, plus a couple of text? I'd like to give it a few shots, but as you say, I gotta conform.

Here is a draft of making one of those galleries better... What are the biggest problems with this one? Am I getting closer?

http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/angelica-vamp.html

Thanks!

gothweb · 07-28-2002, 07:48 PM

fuel123 · 07-28-2002, 08:30 PM

One thing I notice from looking at your galleries is that you have less then 10 pictures, Most of the tgp I have been looking at all ask for at least 12 but less the 20 pictures to submit, on my site I went with 16 - 20 pics per gallery. You have good stuff if you have video of your girls I would do screen grabs to promote, screen grabs always make me wonder about the video.

On another note my icq is acting funny goth can you hit me up I want to talk to you about something

fuel

gothweb · 07-28-2002, 08:39 PM

I'm torn about big galleries... I have very exclusive content, and I want to tempt people with it rather than give it to them. Also, putting together bigger galleries will be a lot more work, since I had the pieces for these ready.

So, as I say, I am torn. In the end, I want to have galleries acceptable in as many places as possible, though... Hmm.

(btw, I added you to my ICQ)

gothweb · 07-29-2002, 11:00 AM

Fuel... Haven't seen you around. What's up?

(Makes me paranoid... 3-4 people have said they want to talk to me privately on ICQ on this board in the last couple of days. Do I have something on my face?)

07-26-2002, 08:47 PM	#1
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	New to TGPs... This is gonna look like spam... but it is a genuine question. I am totally new to making and promoting galleries on TGPs, but I would like to get started. I have some small galleries as pages in my tour, and I was wondering if people think they are submittable? And if so, where would be good? http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/a...-vamp/samples/ http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/angie/samples/ http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/bianca/samples/ http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/claire/samples/ http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/gemmyc/samples/ http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/jenny/samples/ http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/saviya/samples/ http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/undine/samples/ http://www.blood-dolls.com/preview/vail/samples/ Do you think many places will accept these? Where should I try promoting them, if anywhere? Your feedback would be hugely appreciated. (I will be making galleries just for TGPs later. Don't worry. I am just seeing if I will be able to use what I have now, before I am able to make more galleries.) (Slightly spammy, but I might as well add this since the listof URLs is right here... You can link to these pages directly using our partner program, and get a % of the sales they generate on both of my sites. So if you do snag these URLs, at least make yourself a few bucks with them.) __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

07-26-2002, 09:11 PM	#2
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	Tgps dont normally link to pages within tours. I suggest you make some real galleries, regards shemp __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

07-26-2002, 11:42 PM	#4
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	Shemp knows TGPs You have great design styles Gothweb... surf some TGPs and come up with your own flavored template. I'm sure you would be able to sell some memberships. Just make sure you don't whore out too much of your content, perhaps repeat what is already in your free areas. Also, since you're 100% exclusive make sure you stamp your images or something. I think you should do lots of TGPs so I can sell you more bandwidth Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

07-26-2002, 11:43 PM	#5
LiveDose Show Yer Tits! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Out there... Posts: 25,792	If you are promoting your own site and content and it isn't over exposed you should have no problem getting a nice click through rate from normal tgp compliant galleries. I would focus more on doing the galleries so they get listed with some of the bigger sites. BTW, nice clean pages LD __________________ Scammer Alert: acer19 acer [email protected] [email protected] Money stolen using PayPal

07-27-2002, 08:51 AM	#6
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Brad- I'd like to be doing well enough to be buying more bandwidth from you too, don't worry. Everyone - Thanks for the feedback. Looks like I will be doing some gallery templates along the lines of my tour design, once I can spare the time. Does anyone have any recommendations? Number of pics, linking to pages or images, etc? Any help would be hugely appreciated, so I can make the most of the time I have. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

07-27-2002, 11:21 AM	#7
gezzed Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 317	I suggest you check out the galleries here: http://www.darklandstudios.com/samples/ These guys really look like they got their shit together.

07-27-2002, 01:43 PM	#10
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I have started work on TGPs... the first generation template will be based on my site design. This means it is pretty simple, I suppose... Keeping in mind that this is a work in progress... What do you think? http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/template.html There would be nine of those, one for each girl. I will be editing them for maximum compatibility with TGP rules, and making separate copies for some tweaks and referrals, etc. What do you think? __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

07-27-2002, 07:49 PM	#11
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	don't link to pics on html pages - I doubt there are 5 TGPs out there that send decent hits who will allow this. Your content is nice, very original - why not focus more on the model? Right now, it is more like a 1/2 page ad with some funky little thumbs. Use 14-20 pics, and keep it series - that will help a lot. Having those links going to indiviual tour pages are great - BUT, most tgps with penalyze you for so many outgoing links off the gallery. Better to work them up for a single model, and just push her + your main page. 2-5 outgoing links, with 5, sadly, being a stretch these days.

07-27-2002, 07:51 PM	#12
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	yes, also dont have your images come up in html pages, most tgps dont allow that __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

07-28-2002, 01:04 PM	#13
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I have been working, and have some new galleries ready. These are still what I consider first phase, using elements of my site design to make the process quicker and easier. Later on, I will be trying other things. These versions still link to images on HTML pages. I wasn't sure how many places forbid that. (I am curious... Why??) I will work up versions of these same galleries that go directly to the images. http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/angie.html http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/angelica-vamp.html http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/bianca.html http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/claire.html http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/gemmyc.html http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/jenny.html http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/saviya.html http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/undine.html http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/vail.html Are these better? What should I work on to fix these up before finding them loving homes out there on the web? Thanks to everyone for all the help, I appreciate it! __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

07-28-2002, 01:23 PM	#14
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	Gothweb, Steve and Kman said it.... Most TGP webmasters arent even going to see your galleries. You've got way more outing links than pix and your pix are on .html pages. The script will eliminate you right off the bat, man. Your going to have to conform if you want some traffic regards shemp __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

07-28-2002, 01:34 PM	#15
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	You've really gotta read the replies above mate. Even 5 links out of the page are too many for a lot of TGP's these days (I wont post my views on that). Many of the real big guys only allow 2. If you look at those TGP samples that were posted above it's sort of how you need to go. Notice that there's few links out on them (many only have the 2) but they are designed to make the buggers click on those 2 links. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

07-28-2002, 05:21 PM	#16
gezzed Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 317	On an unrelated note, gothweb...please get in touch with me on ICQ: we gotta chat. 126732745

07-28-2002, 05:28 PM	#17
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	What's the phrase? "Back to the old drawing board..." Thanks everyone. I see I have a lot to learn. Thank you all for your suggestions. Hopefully I will be able to come back soon with designs that show I have learned a thing or two from you all. I really appreciate the feedback. You guys didn't have to waste your time on a newbie like me, and it's cool that you bothered. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

07-28-2002, 06:32 PM	#18
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I'm back at this now, and I have a couple of questions... For links out, is the best bet two links total? Or two image links, plus a couple of text? I'd like to give it a few shots, but as you say, I gotta conform. Here is a draft of making one of those galleries better... What are the biggest problems with this one? Am I getting closer? http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/angelica-vamp.html Thanks! __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

07-28-2002, 07:48 PM	#19
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Okay... I can't seem to edit that post, so I guess I'll post this in a new one... I have made a new round of galleries. I am hoping they conform much better, but I suspect there is always more to improve. Here they are: http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/angelica-vamp1.html http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/angie1.html http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/bianca1.html http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/claire1.html http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/gemmyc1.html http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/jenny1.html http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/saviya1.html http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/undine1.html http://www.blood-dolls.com/tgp/vail1.html __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

07-28-2002, 08:30 PM	#20
fuel123 Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York Posts: 340	One thing I notice from looking at your galleries is that you have less then 10 pictures, Most of the tgp I have been looking at all ask for at least 12 but less the 20 pictures to submit, on my site I went with 16 - 20 pics per gallery. You have good stuff if you have video of your girls I would do screen grabs to promote, screen grabs always make me wonder about the video. On another note my icq is acting funny goth can you hit me up I want to talk to you about something fuel __________________ 158112509 - icq http://www.empireofcontent.com Last edited by fuel123; 07-28-2002 at 08:47 PM..

07-28-2002, 08:39 PM	#21
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I'm torn about big galleries... I have very exclusive content, and I want to tempt people with it rather than give it to them. Also, putting together bigger galleries will be a lot more work, since I had the pieces for these ready. So, as I say, I am torn. In the end, I want to have galleries acceptable in as many places as possible, though... Hmm. (btw, I added you to my ICQ) __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

07-29-2002, 11:00 AM	#22
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Fuel... Haven't seen you around. What's up? (Makes me paranoid... 3-4 people have said they want to talk to me privately on ICQ on this board in the last couple of days. Do I have something on my face?) __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.