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rock-reed · 01-12-2007, 04:06 PM

Hi,

What is the best/easiest/most-efficient way to connect DV scenes together without having to re-render the entire file out?

Thank you in Advance from Rock...

DaddyHalbucks · 01-12-2007, 04:07 PM

Techies fire away..

Adult Search Results · 01-12-2007, 04:08 PM

Techies... Techies......

directfiesta · 01-12-2007, 04:25 PM

what format (vob, mpeg2, avi, etc ...)

stickyfingerz · 01-12-2007, 04:30 PM

www.boilsoft.com

rock-reed · 01-12-2007, 04:35 PM

DV

Digital Video

rock-reed · 01-12-2007, 05:20 PM

...anyone... Anyone...?

Beuller??

aico · 01-12-2007, 05:25 PM

If it's still DV, that usually means you are in the editing stage, why don't you just drop the scenes into your editor in the sequence you want, why do you need to re-render it? You already know what it looks like.

rock-reed · 01-12-2007, 05:32 PM

I am not editing.... I am archiving and backing up from tape to Hard-Drive

Thank you

stickyfingerz · 01-12-2007, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rock-reed

I am not editing.... I am archiving and backing up from tape to Hard-Drive

Thank you

there is no format .dv You are either using mpeg1 or .avi wherein the link I posted to boilsoft and their AVI/MPEG/RM/WMV Joiner will work for that no problem. You might look at my sig I work with miniDv and HD all day long.

seeric · 01-12-2007, 05:43 PM

i capture, edit and compress video with final cut and you have me thoroughly confused.

Helix · 01-12-2007, 05:55 PM

just capture it from cam, put together the clips you need and render it using the dv codec and you shouldn't suffer any data degradation.

aico · 01-12-2007, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

there is no format .dv You are either using mpeg1 or .avi wherein the link I posted to boilsoft and their AVI/MPEG/RM/WMV Joiner will work for that no problem. You might look at my sig I work with miniDv and HD all day long.

There is no DV format? Are you on crack? You edit it all day long huh? Jesus.

aico · 01-12-2007, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rock-reed

I am not editing.... I am archiving and backing up from tape to Hard-Drive

Thank you

in that case I don't know of any way to join .dv files. But, why are you backing them up? The tapes will last you longer than the harddrive.

seeric · 01-12-2007, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helix

just capture it from cam, put together the clips you need and render it using the dv codec and you shouldn't suffer any data degradation.

what he said

aico · 01-12-2007, 06:18 PM

If you have two cameras you can also do a tape to tape, and put it in any order you want. I guess you have a reson for putting it to a Hard Drive, but if you're just trying to back up your footage, tapes are way better than a hard drive.

directfiesta · 01-12-2007, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

There is no DV format? Are you on crack? You edit it all day long huh? Jesus.

He is a scientist , a GLOBAL WARMING one .. so you have to excuse him.... about his lack of knowledge about editing ....

rock-reed · 01-12-2007, 06:35 PM

Not true...I have tapes that were well taken care of...that are now about.... 5 years old and they are having some drop outs.

No DV format? lol----u wild yo...

I do not want to edit the clips and re-render to DV (look at the title of the post)

rock-reed · 01-12-2007, 06:37 PM

Tapes suffer from drop out... Do not rely on them to be good over time...

I have a dual Hard drive back up of all my raw DV files
(all tapes backed up across two different system with two different storage areas)

seeric · 01-12-2007, 06:40 PM

im a tard.

stickyfingerz · 01-12-2007, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

There is no DV format? Are you on crack? You edit it all day long huh? Jesus.

Dv format makes no difference in joining. DV is mpeg1 when captured. Maybe there is .dv on a mac who knows....

directfiesta · 01-12-2007, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rock-reed

5 years old and they are having some drop outs.

I agree . I have some BETACAM PAL SP tapes of 1997, and they do have drop outs, mainly at the begining of the tapes.
Good thing the studio started the actual movie at 3:00 into the tape....

aico · 01-12-2007, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Dv format makes no difference in joining. DV is mpeg1 when captured. Maybe there is .dv on a mac who knows....

shut up, you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Maybe your shitty ass program compresses the video when you capture it, but that's your problem.

rock-reed · 01-12-2007, 06:47 PM

DV is mpeg1 when captured?

oh my god...this is great....

aico · 01-12-2007, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

I agree . I have some BETACAM PAL SP tapes of 1997, and they do have drop outs, mainly at the begining of the tapes.
Good thing the studio started the actual movie at 3:00 into the tape....

BetaCam is Analog. There is no deteoriation with Digital Video.

rock-reed · 01-12-2007, 06:49 PM

You can help with drop out by.... everyone once in a while....fast-forwarding the tape to the very end.

When it hits the end (jerks a little).... particles that accumulated on the tape fall off...

Rewind to beginning--- when it hits... same thing happens.

It helps a little bit with drop out over time.

stickyfingerz · 01-12-2007, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

shut up, you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Maybe your shitty ass program compresses the video when you capture it, but that's your problem.

Sorry I dont use a mac. Now when someone asks for a program to join DV video he will have to capture it to his computer in order to do that. There is no extension .dv on a pc it is either .avi or .mpeg1 .avi is the full uncompressed version.

If I were asking for software for a MAC I would probably say that first thing.

Btw I use adobe Premiere 2.0 and newest versions of sorrenson squeeze and Canopus procoder 2. Shitty programs?

directfiesta · 01-12-2007, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

BetaCam is Analog. There is no deteoriation with Digital Video.

I wasn't referring to lost ... but to drop outs. Tape, analog or digital, can have drop outs, mainly as the years go by.

StuBradley · 01-12-2007, 06:54 PM

I use EZ Video Joiner. This is what you're looking for.

http://www.doeasier.org/joiner/

rock-reed · 01-12-2007, 06:58 PM

A file can have any extension on it in the world (fuckyou-imeating.dope)

DV and miniDV are the type of codec...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV

.avi is just an extension....

stickyfingerz · 01-12-2007, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuBradley

I use EZ Video Joiner. This is what you're looking for.

http://www.doeasier.org/joiner/

No apparently he has .dv files and uses a mac.......

aico · 01-12-2007, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rock-reed

A file can have any extension on it in the world (fuckyou-imeating.dope)

DV and miniDV are the type of codec...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV

.avi is just an extension....

He does this all day long. You're not teaching him anything he obviously hasn't already learned in "Adobe Premiere Classroom in a Book".

stickyfingerz · 01-12-2007, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rock-reed

A file can have any extension on it in the world (fuckyou-imeating.dope)

DV and miniDV are the type of codec...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV

.avi is just an extension....

Gee I wouldnt know I mainly work with HDV now let me go find what extension that uses, oh shit....

aico · 01-12-2007, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Gee I wouldnt know I mainly work with HDV now let me go find what extension that uses, oh shit....

you just keep getting dumber and dumber.

stickyfingerz · 01-12-2007, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

He does this all day long. You're not teaching him anything he obviously hasn't already learned in "Adobe Premiere Classroom in a Book".

Hmm well Ive only been using Premiere since version 5 so Im sure that classroom in a book should sure help. Of course lucky you they are just releasing a mac version of premiere again soon!

Im not being taught a thing is right. DV format has nothing to do with what program would work to join it. More important is the file type his program captures to which would be .avi, or .mpeg

stickyfingerz · 01-12-2007, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

you just keep getting dumber and dumber.

Yes Please teach me about video production now....

rock-reed · 01-12-2007, 07:07 PM

Idiocracy...

It is happening as we speak....

stickyfingerz · 01-12-2007, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rock-reed

Idiocracy...

It is happening as we speak....

Ok so are you using a mac or a pc? What program are you capturing with? What file type and extension does your program capture to?

.avi? .mpeg? .m2t?

aico · 01-12-2007, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Hmm well Ive only been using Premiere since version 5 so Im sure that classroom in a book should sure help. Of course lucky you they are just releasing a mac version of premiere again soon!

Im not being taught a thing is right. DV format has nothing to do with what program would work to join it. More important is the file type his program captures to which would be .avi, or .mpeg

Hmm, well I used Premiere since 2.0, and before that I used the Thumbs Up editor with two VCRs...

Premiere is crap, they didn't stop making it for Mac becaues they wanted to, it's because people with a Mac stopped using it around 4.0 because is was utter shit.

aico · 01-12-2007, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Yes Please teach me about video production now....

What do you want to know?

directfiesta · 01-12-2007, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

you just keep getting dumber and dumber.

Over the years, somebody can educate himself, but he will never be smarter, just educated...

Helix · 01-12-2007, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

im a tard.

me too...I guess.

stickyfingerz · 01-12-2007, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

Hmm, well I used Premiere since 2.0, and before that I used the Thumbs Up editor with two VCRs...

Premiere is crap, they didn't stop making it for Mac becaues they wanted to, it's because people with a Mac stopped using it around 4.0 because is was utter shit.

And yet its still around imagine. I used jog shuttle controllers back in 89 with 2 vcr's. I ran the video dept in high school from 89 to 91 big whoppity do. lol After that I ran a video photo album business for weddings, anniversaries, and funerals. I didnt use a scanner I did it all manually on a big old video camera by hand on a big easel. Ahh those are the memories.

Still wondering what he uses to capture with, what os he is on, and what file type his software captures to...

directfiesta · 01-12-2007, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Yes Please teach me about video production now....

.. can you teach me about latin ... or hosting...

Oups, I see no more hosting in your sig ... and no post in hosting threads with the :

" hit me up or call my telephone, it rings DIRECTLY to me ... "

rock-reed · 01-12-2007, 07:21 PM

winXP pro

using vegas 7
capturing to raw DV format...
.avi extension

This isn't Rocket Surgery fellaz...

stickyfingerz · 01-12-2007, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

.. can you teach me about latin ... or hosting...

Oups, I see no more hosting in your sig ... and no post in hosting threads with the :

" hit me up or call my telephone, it rings DIRECTLY to me ... "

How is your site doing? Ever get someone to redo your template for you? I launched two businesses that are doing well, so not as much time to hang out in hosting threads.

stickyfingerz · 01-12-2007, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rock-reed

winXP pro

using vegas 7
capturing to raw DV format...
.avi extension

This isn't Rocket Surgery fellaz...

OK Gezzus fuck. .avi Go download the fucking trial at boilsoft http://www.boilsoft.com/avi-mpeg-rm-joiner.html

Like I said in the fucking 2nd or 3rd post in this thread. The trial is fully functional and will join it with no loss. Jesus. DV format is the tape format. .avi is the file format on the computer. Just like I fuckin said ....

aico · 01-12-2007, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

And yet its still around imagine. I used jog shuttle controllers back in 89 with 2 vcr's. I ran the video dept in high school from 89 to 91 big whoppity do. lol After that I ran a video photo album business for weddings, anniversaries, and funerals. I didnt use a scanner I did it all manually on a big old video camera by hand on a big easel. Ahh those are the memories.

Still wondering what he uses to capture with, what os he is on, and what file type his software captures to...

Corel Draw is still around too... it's fucking crap also, what's your point?

BitAudioVideo · 01-12-2007, 07:27 PM

virtual dub can do this so long as you have dvsd decompressor installed. just use 'direct stream copy'

windows captures type-1 dv avi or type-2 dv avi. .dv most certainly exists, windows just uses an avi wrapper (DirectShow) to handle it.

feel free to hit me up on icq if you need help joining with vdub. its free, its fast.

rock-reed · 01-12-2007, 07:29 PM

I tried the Boilsoft joiner.... but it didn't seem to recognize the DV codec....

And no where on their site does it say they support DV

Thanks

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aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	If you have two cameras you can also do a tape to tape, and put it in any order you want. I guess you have a reson for putting it to a Hard Drive, but if you're just trying to back up your footage, tapes are way better than a hard drive.

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rock-reed Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,892	Not true...I have tapes that were well taken care of...that are now about.... 5 years old and they are having some drop outs. No DV format? lol----u wild yo... I do not want to edit the clips and re-render to DV (look at the title of the post) __________________ --- Ethnic niche? Black-Asian-Latina ? Contact me and lets talk traffic. rockreed@ that thing they call the google mail When you E-mail Me, PLZZZZ make the Subject Title: >>>>>> GFY! So I do not lose you in Spam.

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rock-reed Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,892	Tapes suffer from drop out... Do not rely on them to be good over time... I have a dual Hard drive back up of all my raw DV files (all tapes backed up across two different system with two different storage areas) __________________ --- Ethnic niche? Black-Asian-Latina ? Contact me and lets talk traffic. rockreed@ that thing they call the google mail When you E-mail Me, PLZZZZ make the Subject Title: >>>>>> GFY! So I do not lose you in Spam.

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rock-reed Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,892	You can help with drop out by.... everyone once in a while....fast-forwarding the tape to the very end. When it hits the end (jerks a little).... particles that accumulated on the tape fall off... Rewind to beginning--- when it hits... same thing happens. It helps a little bit with drop out over time. __________________ --- Ethnic niche? Black-Asian-Latina ? Contact me and lets talk traffic. rockreed@ that thing they call the google mail When you E-mail Me, PLZZZZ make the Subject Title: >>>>>> GFY! So I do not lose you in Spam.

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rock-reed Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,892	A file can have any extension on it in the world (fuckyou-imeating.dope) DV and miniDV are the type of codec... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV .avi is just an extension.... __________________ --- Ethnic niche? Black-Asian-Latina ? Contact me and lets talk traffic. rockreed@ that thing they call the google mail When you E-mail Me, PLZZZZ make the Subject Title: >>>>>> GFY! So I do not lose you in Spam.

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rock-reed Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,892	winXP pro using vegas 7 capturing to raw DV format... .avi extension This isn't Rocket Surgery fellaz... __________________ --- Ethnic niche? Black-Asian-Latina ? Contact me and lets talk traffic. rockreed@ that thing they call the google mail When you E-mail Me, PLZZZZ make the Subject Title: >>>>>> GFY! So I do not lose you in Spam.

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rock-reed Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,892	I tried the Boilsoft joiner.... but it didn't seem to recognize the DV codec.... And no where on their site does it say they support DV Thanks __________________ --- Ethnic niche? Black-Asian-Latina ? Contact me and lets talk traffic. rockreed@ that thing they call the google mail When you E-mail Me, PLZZZZ make the Subject Title: >>>>>> GFY! So I do not lose you in Spam.