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SmokeyTheBear 01-12-2007 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11719791)
How much is your soul worth? I wouldn't do it for any amount of money.

Notice he didn't ask about putting animals down at the shelter, he's talking about killing a random puppy for a strictly cash motive. I'm not the kind of guy and no amount of money is worth becoming that guy.

so is ignorance bliss ? like for example. theres dust mites in your eyebrows right now. so knowing that fact when you scratch your eyebrow your killing whole families of dust mites.. is it "unintentional" if you know what your doing but its to solve another woe ( your itchy eyebrow ) isnt that the same as killing a puppy to solve a woe ( money ) . you could certainly live without scratching your eyebrow just as you can live without a million dollars.

So is the only difference is its got a cute face or is it because its a pet ( thats a whole nother ball of wax , i.e. animal slavery )

BusterBunny 01-12-2007 08:40 PM

51.............

JaneB 01-12-2007 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR (Post 11719421)
garbage bag + rocks + rubber band + lake = Dead puppy :)

You can get rid of bodies like that too. LOL

SmokeyTheBear 01-12-2007 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 11722486)
You can get rid of bodies like that too. LOL

that wouldnt be very smart , plastic can tear and degrades in water ,, rocks fall out and up floats body

Fizzgig 01-12-2007 08:59 PM

No Puppy Killing!!!!!!
:(

SmokeyTheBear 01-12-2007 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fizzgig (Post 11722561)
No Puppy Killing!!!!!!
:(

even if its to save a human life ?

dig420 01-12-2007 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11722467)
so is ignorance bliss ? like for example. theres dust mites in your eyebrows right now. so knowing that fact when you scratch your eyebrow your killing whole families of dust mites.. is it "unintentional" if you know what your doing but its to solve another woe ( your itchy eyebrow ) isnt that the same as killing a puppy to solve a woe ( money ) . you could certainly live without scratching your eyebrow just as you can live without a million dollars.

So is the only difference is its got a cute face or is it because its a pet ( thats a whole nother ball of wax , i.e. animal slavery )

No, the difference is a purposeful, malicious, brutal killing of an intelligent companion animal.

dig420 01-12-2007 09:10 PM

And one other thing: All you people that constantly try to say the only difference between killing one animal and killing another is in it's cuteness - you're retarded. And probably morally and ethically impaired as well. The difference between killing for sustenance and killing for pleasure is easy enough for decent people to see. The difference between killing a wild animal and an animal bred to trust you and help you is easy enough to see for decent people.

If you don't see it, you're not decent people. End of story. I suggest you take a hard look in the mirror and see what's looking back at you.

notabook 01-12-2007 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11722595)
even if its to save a human life ?

Come on damn it and change it to cats/kittens, those filthy things need to be wiped out to preserve humanity as it is :mad:

beemk 01-12-2007 09:13 PM

i could do it under the right circumstances. if a puppy was attacking a friend or family i would have no problem killing it.

SmokeyTheBear 01-12-2007 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11722598)
No, the difference is a purposeful, malicious, brutal killing of an intelligent companion animal.

lol thats alot of areas.. so its about how smart something is ? if so at what smartness would the limit be for you..

Like as i explained above if your eyebrow itches , theres dustmites in your eyebrow when you scratch it your killing tons of them , whole families.. so now that you know will you never scratch your eyebrow ?

So lets move it up a bit. yes or no to a million dollars to kill the following animals.

An ant ?

A cockroach ?

A mouse ?

A rat ?

A rabbit ?

A deer ?

A slug ?

A raven ?

A seagull ?

A whale ?

An alien species ?

dig420 01-12-2007 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11722708)
lol thats alot of areas.. so its about how smart something is ? if so at what smartness would the limit be for you..

Like as i explained above if your eyebrow itches , theres dustmites in your eyebrow when you scratch it your killing tons of them , whole families.. so now that you know will you never scratch your eyebrow ?

So lets move it up a bit. yes or no to a million dollars to kill the following animals.

An ant ?

A cockroach ?

A mouse ?

A rat ?

A rabbit ?

A deer ?

A slug ?

A raven ?

A seagull ?

A whale ?

An alien species ?


Like many things about being a truly worthwhile human being, my son... if you don't know it by instinct you can't be taught. Maybe you'll turn out better in your next life.

Scottish Guy 01-12-2007 09:32 PM

If intelligence make a difference is it ok to kill down syndromes?

Viper2K1 01-12-2007 09:35 PM

i think it's fairly simple

if you would never do it and you don't even say an amount
those that did say a number, even if it was something rediculous like 5 million, they'll probably do it for 10K just like that one guy ... if only those people who asked the question would have had it CASH and waved it infront of their eyes.

People who need money, do all kinds of shit for it

SmokeyTheBear 01-12-2007 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11722606)
And one other thing: All you people that constantly try to say the only difference between killing one animal and killing another is in it's cuteness - you're retarded. And probably morally and ethically impaired as well.

lol i dont think anyone says thats what its about , they just ask as i did IF that is the reason.

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11722606)
The difference between killing for sustenance and killing for pleasure is easy enough for decent people to see.

That wasn't / isnt the question.. obviously theres a difference , but hardly the point or the ethical debate..

For $1 million you could EASILY save several human lives.. these lives will not be saved without the $1 million , so if you were given the chance to kill an innocent puppy for 1 million and that would in turn save several humans , the question has nothing to do with its edibility :)



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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11722606)
The difference between killing a wild animal and an animal bred to trust you and help you is easy enough to see for decent people.

Sure it is but again that isnt the question, see above.. by killing the dog you would save human lives ..

dig420 01-12-2007 09:41 PM

You just twist shit around trying to have some kind of 'debate' about a completely idiotic subject. If you're killing a puppy to save human lives what does money have to do with it?

SmokeyTheBear 01-12-2007 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11722751)
You just twist shit around trying to have some kind of 'debate' about a completely idiotic subject. If you're killing a puppy to save human lives what does money have to do with it?

heh i like to twist :)

because thats not the option your given , its a random guy on the street he has a puppy and 1 million in cash , he cant help you save anyone , nobody is directly saved.. but lets say if you dont take him up on the offer he burns the money right in front of you..

With 1 million you could DIRECTLY save people's lives.. in several methods.. one of the simplest would just be a transplant for someone in a nation who wont do it without cash , say for a kid or something.. but even something like medication for thousand of mother sin africa would save hundreds of babies that normally die..

Either way the way you spend the money is up to you. i think we can all agree 1 million could save several humans.. so thats one option.. if you dont those people will certainly die.. there are people right now even in america who could be saved if they had $$ Infact someone in particluar is "secret santa" the guy who invented it and gave away hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years and is now terminally ill and could be saved if he had cash infact less $ than he had given away

SmokeyTheBear 01-12-2007 09:54 PM

so the question isnt any different im just informing you that if you say no to a million you would be denying humans life that would live if you killed the puppy

SmokeyTheBear 01-12-2007 09:56 PM

dont get me wrong i generally agree with you digi im just kind of playing devils advocate here.. in "theory" i wouldnt do it either, ( infact i dont even know if i could :) ) but realistically if some guy had 1 million CASH in front of me and it would be BURNED right there in front of me if i said no , i would think im pretty sick person because like i said i could instantly donate it to one of the above mentioned items that would DIRECTLY save lives

After Shock Media 01-12-2007 10:01 PM

I would have to say although I would not do it now for some minute amount of cash. In my youth I think $2.00 fit the bill. After all that is what my allowence was when I was required to grab a bunny, wack it in the head with a hammer, stick it onto a spike on a board stuck to a tree, and then skin it. Then again I had to do about five to ten bunnies a week, so I am inflating the figure due to inflation and that puppies are slightly different than bunnies.

notabook 01-12-2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11722812)
I would have to say although I would not do it now for some minute amount of cash. In my youth I think $2.00 fit the bill. After all that is what my allowence was when I was required to grab a bunny, wack it in the head with a hammer, stick it onto a spike on a board stuck to a tree, and then skin it. Then again I had to do about five to ten bunnies a week, so I am inflating the figure due to inflation and that puppies are slightly different than bunnies.

That sounds just like my childhood! Except there were no bunnies, only cats. And I didn't get paid for it. :(

shekinah 01-12-2007 10:18 PM

I wouldn't dare see an innocent cute puppy get killed:(

Scottish Guy 01-12-2007 10:20 PM

People always get carried away with these hypothetical arguments lol

Odin 01-12-2007 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11718920)
bullshit..i would kill 1000 puppies for 100 million and so would everyone here

lol

So true. Most of us eat meat after all. Why? Because it tastes good and enriches our life. 100 Million dollars could sure enrich ones life also.

Odin 01-12-2007 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11722751)
You just twist shit around trying to have some kind of 'debate' about a completely idiotic subject. If you're killing a puppy to save human lives what does money have to do with it?

Really like I said above if you eat meat you can't say anything. Eating meat has NOTHING to do with necessity. Once upon a time it did, not today. You could quite easily never eat meat again and live a happy and fine life. The only reason you eat meat is because you like the taste. It's a choice.

Vitasoy 01-12-2007 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Viper2K1 (Post 11722729)
i think it's fairly simple

if you would never do it and you don't even say an amount
those that did say a number, even if it was something rediculous like 5 million, they'll probably do it for 10K just like that one guy ... if only those people who asked the question would have had it CASH and waved it infront of their eyes.

People who need money, do all kinds of shit for it

Quote for the truth.. sad but true

dig420 01-12-2007 11:57 PM

All the money in the world isn't going to help you if you hate yourself. If I killed puppies for money I would hate myself. Therefore I would not do it.

You guys man, you think money is some kind of end all be all. I'm pretty much rich ok? Seriously. I'm not any happier than I was when I was poor, I'm just depressed in a more luxurious surrounding and I drive a better car. Money is only ONE of MANY things that make up a happy life, and it's not even the most important thing. If you're willing to sell your soul for a few bucks, thinking it's a fair tradeoff, you're kidding yourself.

Rich people put guns to their forehead every day of the week, and many a poor man wakes up to breakfast with his wife, kids and his family dog singing a happy song. Moral of the story: Don't kill puppies for money. It won't help you.

SmokeyTheBear 01-13-2007 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11723526)
All the money in the world isn't going to help you if you hate yourself. If I killed puppies for money I would hate myself. Therefore I would not do it.

You guys man, you think money is some kind of end all be all. I'm pretty much rich ok? Seriously. I'm not any happier than I was when I was poor, I'm just depressed in a more luxurious surrounding and I drive a better car. Money is only ONE of MANY things that make up a happy life, and it's not even the most important thing. If you're willing to sell your soul for a few bucks, thinking it's a fair tradeoff, you're kidding yourself.

Rich people put guns to their forehead every day of the week, and many a poor man wakes up to breakfast with his wife, kids and his family dog singing a happy song. Moral of the story: Don't kill puppies for money. It won't help you.

did you even read anything i posted ? nobody ends up with money , the million goes to save other people ( or whatever you want really ), nobody answered they would do it for only a million beause then they would be happy forever..

Moral of the story : digi would let children die because he is scared to kill a puppy :winkwink: :1orglaugh

SmokeyTheBear 01-13-2007 12:05 AM

i would think my soul would be alot more clean knowing i saved a dozen children from certain death but killed a puppy than someone who refused to kill a puppy and let a dozen children die..

dig420 01-13-2007 12:19 AM

yeah, and if you get out right now and patch up all the cracks in the sidewalk right now you might save a kid from tripping and breaking his neck. So why aren't you out patching the sidewalk?

There are plenty of things you could be out doing to 'save the children' besides killing puppies. So go get busy.

King Adam 01-13-2007 12:34 AM

I watched it and it was lame. A college film where no one would live up to their quota.

On a side not, I wouldn't kill a puppy for anything but a naked night with Jessica Simpson.

L-Pink 01-13-2007 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by beemk (Post 11722620)
i could do it under the right circumstances. if a puppy was attacking a friend or family i would have no problem killing it.

WTF? Killer puppies .......


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Odin 01-13-2007 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11723526)
All the money in the world isn't going to help you if you hate yourself. If I killed puppies for money I would hate myself. Therefore I would not do it.

You guys man, you think money is some kind of end all be all. I'm pretty much rich ok? Seriously. I'm not any happier than I was when I was poor, I'm just depressed in a more luxurious surrounding and I drive a better car. Money is only ONE of MANY things that make up a happy life, and it's not even the most important thing. If you're willing to sell your soul for a few bucks, thinking it's a fair tradeoff, you're kidding yourself.

Rich people put guns to their forehead every day of the week, and many a poor man wakes up to breakfast with his wife, kids and his family dog singing a happy song. Moral of the story: Don't kill puppies for money. It won't help you.

Does having a juicy steak make your life happier? There is no difference between killing a cow so you can eat a nice meal, and killing a puppy so you can get money and have lots of nice meals for the rest of your life. The only difference is when you eat your steak you had someone else do the killing for you, so you close your eyes and feel all warm and fuzzy inside. You're just a hypocrite.

notabook 01-13-2007 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 11723906)

That puppy could end up being the next Hitler... I can see evil in his eyes.

SmokeyTheBear 01-13-2007 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11723747)
yeah, and if you get out right now and patch up all the cracks in the sidewalk right now you might save a kid from tripping and breaking his neck. So why aren't you out patching the sidewalk?

There are plenty of things you could be out doing to 'save the children' besides killing puppies. So go get busy.


that isnt the question .. a dude walks up witha puppy.. there are no sidewalks,, you could also do sidewalks that doesnt help the people dying because you wouldnt kill a puppy..

Patching a sidewalk isnt guaranteed going to save a life.. there are people that just need a simple transfusion or operation but just cant afford it.. i.e. if they dont come up with $$ in a certain amount of days = they die.. patching sidewalks would be a fluke . you might save 1 kid and even those chances are slim .. with 1 million you are guaranteed to save a life..

You still havent answered the majority of the questions . i have answered yours , have the balls to do the same please. start with the list of animals above.. and what ones you would kill for a million dollars

Adultnet 01-13-2007 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by notabook (Post 11722613)
Come on damn it and change it to cats/kittens, those filthy things need to be wiped out to preserve humanity as it is :mad:

dude why are you so mad at them :)

L-Pink 01-13-2007 01:33 AM

Cats being led to market, may disturb some viewers

https://youtube.com/watch?v=_UAwZKL4_0w

notabook 01-13-2007 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Adultnet (Post 11724046)
dude why are you so mad at them :)

You’ve got to be joking. Cats are a threat to our very existence and they will stop at nothing to destroy us all. At the moment that are sort of in their dormancy phase; they are preparing and concocting various methods of destroying us rapidly. They even have managed to get human beings working directly for them (those mother fucking PETA assholes). They even have their own terrorist organization doing their bidding, again comprised of human beings (ALF). What those PETA and ALF assfucks fail to realize is that as soon as humanity is conquered by felinity their usefulness to feline-kind is over. They too will share the same fate as the rest of the humans; most of the males will be neutered and forced to work in giant catnip mines until they drop dead. Don’t even ask what happens to our females…

Our conflict goes back for thousands of years with those furry fleshbag fuckheads. The ancient Egyptians knew just how powerful and devastating cats could be and tried to tell us through their strange creations and glyphs a story of epic proportions that took place, the story of a great war between felinity and humanity itself that occurred 10’s of thousands of years ago. The war between our two races lasted for years until we finally managed to drive them back, battered and defeated. It wasn’t until sometime later that they (those furry fleshbags) learned of a way to erase our memories and make us think they were nothing but ‘cure’ and ‘cuddly’.

Their smartest feline scientists genetically manipulated a common parasite that nearly all cats are born with. The parasite, once modified, would be planted on a human and slowly it would manipulate his or her very mind and convince them that cats posed no threat whatsoever to us. A battalion of cats descended upon a human settlement and quickly infected them with the parasite. Many cats died and after a while the cat scientists believed their parasite to be ineffective. Soon though it was apparent that it worked far better than they had hoped – humans stopped attacking felines and openly started to show them affection, they even went as far to start giving up their own resources for the fleatards.

Unfortunately for felinity, the humans complicity to welcome them into their homes and give up valuable resources became a double-edged sword. Cats became lazy and soon ‘de-evolved’. They lost purpose and for a time it appeared that cats and humans could coexist (even though cats were for the most part pointless and useless, they were no longer killing humans so it was good). But alas, all things must come to an end. Somehow a group of cats managed to free themselves from their ‘living coma’ as they would call it. This group of felines would quickly be dubbed the Feline Overlords and they set out to quickly wake up their brethren from their living comas.

So here we are, many years later, once again under direct threat from the Feline Overlords and their massive army of furry bastards. Not all cats are awakened from their living coma yet so we still have time to stop them all. The easiest way is to snuff them out as quickly as possible whenever you see them, making sure to severe their head and impale it on a pike (this part is just to make you feel better, cats die fairly easily, they are not like zombies). Most humans refuse to accept the truth; the parasites that the cats invented so many years ago are still surging through all of us. Some of us (like myself) are immune to their effects. Most unfortunately are not and will spread cat propaganda for the rest of their lives.

PussyTeenies 01-13-2007 01:55 AM

stupid people in the vid :(


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