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Old 07-26-2002, 12:06 PM   #1
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Reality websites: the bang bus and the gang

Reality websites seem to be on the table of every sponsors in 2002. Only this week 4 new projects have been reveal.

www.bumbus.com (CE Cash)
www.bangbum.com (Silvercash)
www.milfsearch.com (ARS)
www.fistinglessons.net (SEG)

Here's a little bit of porn reality history (correct me if I'm wrong ;)

All started with www.sweetloads.com in 1999 (SEG) Then a couple of months later appears www.exploitedteens.com (exploitedcash) On the trends, the famous www.bangbus.com (OX Cash) appears and changed the face of reality website forever. Btw, wanna see where they got the original idea? Go rent Ed Powers's "bus stop tales" serie from 1989... I think OX should send a big check to ED ;)

Now you also got :
www.thedirtyoldman.net (SEG)
www.mikesapatment.com (nastydollar)
www.milfhunter.com (nastydollar)
www.brunob.com (gamma entertainment)
www.chicktrick.com (soulcash)
www.oldfatpervert.com (nexpectation)
www.captainstabbin.com (nastydollar)

and the clone:
www.backroomfacials.com (Sweetloads clone)
www.castingbus.com/home.html (bang bus clone in german)

...the niche:
www.savagesonblondes.com
www.asswatcher.com
www.exploitedteensasia.com/

...and don't forget the gay!
www.baitbus.com/
www.boysfirsttime.com

Did I miss some that should be there?

So it seems that everything is setup for a reality war

As a content provider, the number of request we got for conceptual content exploded in the last 12 months. When major players jump in the reality wagon, you could only expect the other one to follow. I'm pretty sure we will see tones of site like this coming out really soon.

Who's the next?
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Old 07-26-2002, 12:15 PM   #2
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yeah i'd like to announce my newest site, DawgyDoesPhoenix.com

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Old 07-26-2002, 12:22 PM   #3
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I was never a big fan of the sweetloads "reality niche" pretty basic, just more average looking people participating in the same acts as pornstar, seemed fairly staged anyways.... I dont think there is anything as reality in this business, everything is made to look like its real but nothing is real, if anyone can come out with something Truly Real, then they are sitting on a gold mine
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Old 07-26-2002, 12:26 PM   #4
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I was never a big fan of the sweetloads "reality niche" pretty basic, just more average looking people participating in the same acts as pornstar, seemed fairly staged anyways.... I dont think there is anything as reality in this business, everything is made to look like its real but nothing is real, if anyone can come out with something Truly Real, then they are sitting on a gold mine
You remind me of a Canadian Pimp.
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Old 07-26-2002, 12:29 PM   #5
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yeah i'd like to announce my newest site, DawgyDoesPhoenix.com

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Glad I don't live in Phoenix
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Old 07-26-2002, 12:33 PM   #6
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Old 07-26-2002, 12:44 PM   #7
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Old 07-26-2002, 12:46 PM   #8
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Boys First Time is not a bite on Bait Bus.

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Old 07-26-2002, 01:16 PM   #9
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Sorry fred, I think that SEG dirty old man has been around longer than Bangbus.

If you're giving history lessons make sure you get them right --
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Old 07-26-2002, 01:43 PM   #10
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I was never a big fan of the sweetloads "reality niche" pretty basic, just more average looking people participating in the same acts as pornstar, seemed fairly staged anyways.... I dont think there is anything as reality in this business, everything is made to look like its real but nothing is real, if anyone can come out with something Truly Real, then they are sitting on a gold mine
Its funny that I see you talk smack about Sweet Loads whenever you can and you Defend OX Cash any chance you get. Is there some personal issue or axe to grind you'd like to share? Are you trying to get a little rivalry going?

Just for the record none of us here at SEG have any issues about other people doing "reality niche" sites as you label them, not even the ones that are a direct rip off of our products!

Infact we're sure our latest projects are going to keep pushing the whole thing forward just like Sweet Loads did in the first place. Infact I'm just waiting to see who is going to copy Fisting Lessons first.
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Old 07-26-2002, 01:47 PM   #11
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Sorry fred, I think that SEG dirty old man has been around longer than Bangbus.

If you're giving history lessons make sure you get them right --
Dave Cummings is the real dirty old man.

http://www.davecummings.com/
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Old 07-26-2002, 02:03 PM   #12
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Its funny that I see you talk smack about Sweet Loads whenever you can and you Defend OX Cash any chance you get. Is there some personal issue or axe to grind you'd like to share? Are you trying to get a little rivalry going?

Just for the record none of us here at SEG have any issues about other people doing "reality niche" sites as you label them, not even the ones that are a direct rip off of our products!

Infact we're sure our latest projects are going to keep pushing the whole thing forward just like Sweet Loads did in the first place. Infact I'm just waiting to see who is going to copy Fisting Lessons first.
I didnt even attack you, I just said what I think, personally speaking it wouldnt hurt if you guys actually updated your plugins every once in a while..... And Show me a thread where I attacked your company, I've always had respect for SEG, i was even a webmaster with you guys, but i dropped it cause i hated the fact I couldnt get content and the design itself sucked, but I noticed today you have a better look and actually share content without having to email for it (which i never got any responses from) Oxcash on the other hand has done many many things for me, as some people realize and others have no idea about, as for a Rivarly what could would that honestly do? probably put you in a worse position, in my honest opinion, I think you guys were on the top of your game 3 years ago and oxcash is on top of there game today, so it would be no competition... As for someone copying fisting lessons or whatever, the first thing I noticed when i loaded up that page, was it looks quite a bit like exploitedteens and cumfieta, so who is riding who ?

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Old 07-26-2002, 02:12 PM   #13
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Boys First Time is not a bite on Bait Bus.

Nothing alike.
i think he was saying that they both pertained to the gay niche not comparing the two...
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Old 07-26-2002, 02:19 PM   #14
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Check out the fat guy... fucking gag

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that just made my day hahahahahahahah
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I didnt even attack you,......

As for someone copying fisting lessons or whatever, the first thing I noticed when i loaded up that page, was it looks quite a bit like exploitedteens and cumfieta, so who is riding who ?

So this is not another attack either right? I don't know what you see in common between Cum Fiesta, Exploitedteens and Fisting Lessons - but I'm not seeing it. One is facials oriented with amateurs, the other is a guy exploiting girls who supposedly want to be models. Those two remind me of Sweet Loads....

Fisting lessons is about teaching amateurs how to take a fist. Who else is teaching amateurs how to take a fist? I don't see any facials in that content - do you? Is there any false pretenses to why the girls are there to be "exploited" - no. They all know upfront they are there to learn to take a fist. I guess thats why its called "Fisting Lessons" and not "Suprise Fist lessons" or "Fisting Fiesta".

I'd love you to show me what I'm not seeing here but from where I am sitting you're streching to make that comparison.

And for the record I didn't say you were trying to do anything, I asked what your problem is. You certainly try to go that extra mile to share your negative "personal opinion" on us and your positive opinion on OX. Even answering my post questioning you, you did it again.

So come on, whats the real issue issue here?

Or do you want to change the real topic and compare another one of SEG's sites with two other sites that are not related and then try to suggest SEG is riding someone else again?
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Old 07-26-2002, 02:56 PM   #19
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Oh my! HAH! thats fucking hilarious!..
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BTW, Pipe - if you are comparing Fisting Lessons to the other sites due to tour designs, etc - then I'm not going to feel embarassed that we use similar concepts to other people. Everyone tries to take everyone elses tours etc the next step further - thats the nature of the industry.

We always do our best to make sure our content is one step ahead though - and thats my point.
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BTW, Pipe - if you are comparing Fisting Lessons to the other sites due to tour designs, etc - then I'm not going to feel embarassed that we use similar concepts to other people. Everyone tries to take everyone elses tours etc the next step further - thats the nature of the industry.

We always do our best to make sure our content is one step ahead though - and thats my point.

that was my point, just the designs reminded me of those two sites...... not the content, but thanks for explaining the differences in the last post
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just wait until Cemetary Pickups and Sykk Fuckers comes out...be afraid, be very afraid ;)
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Isn't fisting illegal? Always thought it was.
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Fisting isn't illegal in canada, and the case that went to court in the USA was overturned.

So its full fists, I mean steam, ahead.
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Fisting isn't illegal in canada, and the case that went to court in the USA was overturned.

So its full fists, I mean steam, ahead.
I did not know that. I gotta find me a loose chick
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If you found me I idea like that would get me multi-millionaire, I promess to send you a big check


Paul: How the fisting site is converting so far?
I'm pretty sure it will be a real bomb!


Also I thing I forgot two other interesting sites:
www.cdgirls.com
www.fuckingmachines.com

Not really concept...simply really with a twist
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the difference is , our girls aren't paid and wouldn't rather be doing anything else!
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I hadn't been to asswatcher.com in a while... you've come correct with that joint. Velly nice

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I hadn't been to asswatcher.com in a while... you've come correct with that joint. Velly nice

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the difference is , our girls aren't paid and wouldn't rather be doing anything else!
never heard of you intill now
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You forgot Porn Audition Created Aug-1999 which I had the pleasure producing for Wild Rose.
That site was as real as it got. There was no pre interview and every interview was streamed live without the knowledge of what would happen.

Got Jizz is a total rip off of what webmasters wanted as a plug in for there members area. What makes Got Jizz so special is it adds great sex scenes with great entertainment. The scenes have become a routine , The hardcore surfer fans of Got Jizz know all the lines we are going to say next , but what they love about the routine is how each girl will react differently to what we say and make them do.

Looking back, Porn Audition has not been copied on a large scale yet. It was a unique site that was more of my life at the time.
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Totally right Dug...sorry about that.
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How about http://www.voyeurdorm.com launched in 1996. It was truly one of the first reality based sites.
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Supply and Demand. If they want reality entertainment, give it to them.

Although its not Porn, I think the tv show COPS tries to stake claim to kicking off the reality entertainment trend back in the 80's. Then came gonzo porn, and now.

And to think, I was filming drunken escapades with friends at parties years ago--for the fuck of it. Someday, someday.....
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the difference is , our girls aren't paid and wouldn't rather be doing anything else!
Your girls are not paid?
Not sure about that, but I would be very careful. A payment of money makes the model release, very, legal. She has been paid for her services and the rights for you to resell it.
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All these reality sites are follow ups to the likes of Ed Powers, Buttman, Ben Dover, etc.

The thing with them is they were about the main man as a personality. He was the star and held it together, you bought the next tape to see him and how he was going to get the girl to perform rather than just another girl.

From what I've seen of the Internet (and that is not everything) it's about some faceless guy getting a blow job, filming himself or the next girl "to get on the bus".

The guys that make someone a personality in his or her own right will clean up. Not that Bang Bus are short of a few $$$
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we are kinda new, dude! but you will be seeing allot more of us.

youngandthirsty.com ( original content ) is coming out next week, so stay tuned!

www.dollarjunkie.com

reality sites that convert!
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Old 07-29-2002, 10:51 AM   #45
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Paul: How the fisting site is converting so far?
I'm pretty sure it will be a real bomb!

Fistinglessons is converting fiercely no doubt about it - its getting the attention we expected it would
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