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Old 01-21-2007, 11:30 AM   #1
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Is There Any More True 'Amateur' Porn Anymore?

I don't think so - the Internet killed off true amateur porn. Yes there are girls and couples who run their own sites but the truth is once they've been in biz for a little while they are no longer amateurs and are not much different than any other commericial porn producer pumping out 'content'. At one time real amateurs sold their footage to Homegrown Video but the Internet gave those types of people an outlet of their own so people who once would have sent tapes to Homegrown now open their own sites like NaughtyAllie.

The only real amateur porn I think left are these girls doing strip teases in their bedrooms that end up on YouTube type sites and the celeb sex tapes. I think that's why they're so popular, it is true amateur porn.

it's the only porn i ever liked.
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There is plenty of amateur porn on the net now... mostly girls dancing in bikinis on youtube and on their myspace pages.

Considering the requirements for paperwork, visa and mastercard fees, forming LLCs to avoid revealing your home address, etc... nobody is amatuer anymore if they want to run a porn site for money.
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Old 01-21-2007, 11:47 AM   #3
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if you are looking for a _TRUE_ amateur stuff porn site.. hit me up on Skype: fthylmann.

This is _real_ amateur porn, doesn't get more real than this.

We will start to look for beta testers in the US for it sometime this week...
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if you are looking for a _TRUE_ amateur stuff porn site.. hit me up on Skype: fthylmann.

This is _real_ amateur porn, doesn't get more real than this.

We will start to look for beta testers in the US for it sometime this week...
alright i will when the football games are over. thanks.
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I don't think so - the Internet killed off true amateur porn. Yes there are girls and couples who run their own sites but the truth is once they've been in biz for a little while they are no longer amateurs and are not much different than any other commericial porn producer pumping out 'content'. At one time real amateurs sold their footage to Homegrown Video but the Internet gave those types of people an outlet of their own so people who once would have sent tapes to Homegrown now open their own sites like NaughtyAllie.

The only real amateur porn I think left are these girls doing strip teases in their bedrooms that end up on YouTube type sites and the celeb sex tapes. I think that's why they're so popular, it is true amateur porn.

it's the only porn i ever liked.
Agree - it's a very strong market, but almost dead on the net.

Sure.. it can be generated artificially, but hard for a shooter to dump the professional niceties and come up with ragged-at-the-edges aura associated with "amateur".

Other elements which inhibit that niche are legal issues - particularly in the US with 2257 blah..
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Old 01-21-2007, 01:13 PM   #9
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redclouds and homeclips are pretty amateur.
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Old 01-21-2007, 01:54 PM   #10
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I guess it depends on the definition of "amateur"

some people think I shoot it others dont
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Old 01-21-2007, 01:57 PM   #11
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yeah I've been thinking the same thing for quite a while. When I'm submitting a gallery and select "amateur" I'm like, this really isn't amateur.
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Old 01-21-2007, 02:13 PM   #12
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When an "Amateur" opens a pay-site, she becomes a pro...

If you're looking for Amateur porn that isn't for money, well, I surf around the profiles on my own network. Girls upload some amazing stuff that I know for a fact is actual amateur.

And, damn, the fact that it is true amateur stuff gets me a ton of traffic! Search for profiles with pictures at http://social.redlightcenter.com
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Old 01-21-2007, 02:15 PM   #13
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I just shot Perrie sucking my cock with my phone ... does that count? It's a good one too :D
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Old 01-21-2007, 02:17 PM   #14
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its a point where it dont matter because even if its true amatuar porn noone wont believe it anyway
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Old 01-21-2007, 02:33 PM   #16
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Old 01-21-2007, 02:34 PM   #17
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Real people still submit their content to Homegrown Video on a regular basis. There are many people who are submitters who have their own little fan bases, in fact, and we have those people participate in the Homegrown community, as well. ;)
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Defining what amateur is, is definately tricky...

There is one very simple one though. An amateur porn movie is a movie made by private people without a production company behind it. When a private person becomes a small production company, that of course is discussable..

The reason why amateur porn works so well, is because surfers LOVE to be able to REACH the people they watch. They want to be able to contact them, feel like they could meet them sometime maybe if they are lucky and just fuck'em themself..

That is why PERSONALS work so well and that is why CAMS work so well..

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interesting thread

Coming from someone who started out as amateurs, staying within that role has been difficult. We are still a husband and wife run company. we started out with one site back in 99. Now we have a small network which includes VOD and DVD sales. Each site is different, they are not cookie cutter sites with the same content recycled over and over. The biggest issue was whether to stay a true "amateur" or aspire to something bigger. My wife and I shoot and edit all of our own content, we update our sites, we promote ourselves as best we can. BUT, we have moved into high grade equipment, invested thousands and thousands of dollars in studios, cameras, lights, designers and models. The fact that we are an "amateur" company has been a bit of a detractor when it comes to wholesale distribution of our product, as even though we have been around for quite a while, we are still a "new" and "untested" company....
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I still shoot amateur "style" porn with the ceiling light as the lighting and a regular video camera..However, since I get paid to do it, I'm a pro. I always want to give off the feel that it's just some dude in a house or cheap hotel doing what he would have been doing anyway, except a camera is on while it's happening.
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LOL there's real amateur porn ALL OVER, more than ever.
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We obviously make money, but doesn't mean we are not amateur. Wendy is a legitimate housewife, I just use a shitty mini DV, and mainly film in my little apartment. Our surfers certainly get the feel its amateur even though we make money..

Another site like www.latexangel.com is also run by an amateur couple, www.laylaextreme.com is the same just a couple playing together, whereas a site like www.extremeholes.com revolves around samantha, but it is more of a professional type feel to it.
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My definition of real amateurs is people doing it for the fun only, not for the money (a pretty common definition), so there isn't much left...porn is about illusions, you can always make it look like real amateurs, but just because the actors aren't pornstars and the set and video quality look a little crappy doesn't mean it's "real amateur". Doing it for money doesn't mean it's no more fun, but it becomes different.
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I still shoot amateur "style" porn with the ceiling light as the lighting and a regular video camera..However, since I get paid to do it, I'm a pro. I always want to give off the feel that it's just some dude in a house or cheap hotel doing what he would have been doing anyway, except a camera is on while it's happening.
Always remember a magazine editor who would never look at a pic set that was not shot on an Instamatic camera with rough-as-hell content

Not sure of the current circulation of that mag, but it sold more copies regionally than all the competition at the time (Playboy, Penthouse etc) - basically because it *looked* amateur and printed on fairly thin paperstock (helps keep the production cost down )

Can't say what the market is like now, but the best country for "amateur" used to be Germany, followed by the UK.
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Would you consider guys hiring girls from local newspaper ads and craigslist and doing scenes with them amateur? I would.

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My friends and I make the videos and made the site, Now that we have a site are we not amateurs now?
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If I use our old camera, turn off my lights, don't clean up before we shoot, then it looks amateur. But, the next thing we have is our members asking for better light, sexy little outfits, better quality stills. On and On... You can't stay true amateur without getting professional to some level. I think that "amatuer porn" is lost when the actor/actress doesn't do their own production and marketing. If you shoot your own content, promote yourself, have member interaction with cams/forums/whatever.. I would say you are amateur porn.
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If I use our old camera, turn off my lights, don't clean up before we shoot, then it looks amateur. But, the next thing we have is our members asking for better light, sexy little outfits, better quality stills. On and On... You can't stay true amateur without getting professional to some level. I think that "amatuer porn" is lost when the actor/actress doesn't do their own production and marketing. If you shoot your own content, promote yourself, have member interaction with cams/forums/whatever.. I would say you are amateur porn.
I think the key here is shoot your own content, and member interaction... thats what members look for in amateur porn, as I said before, to be able to reach the amateurs. For them its impossible to get in contact with a pornstar, except on shows for autographs... with amateurs, they can chat, email them, and so on...

Thats what is KEY to amateur. Thats just my oppinion of course...
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If you shoot your own content, promote yourself, have member interaction with cams/forums/whatever.. I would say you are amateur porn.
That is what we do and I think why our members stay as long as they do. The site went live in July and the first 6 members are still there
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I am trying to get a production company off the ground and I got a feeling that most of the content well be amature. If any one wants to help me out they would have frist dibs on the content. I have anther post that explains more of what I am planying on doing.
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Considering the requirements for paperwork, visa and mastercard fees, forming LLCs to avoid revealing your home address, etc... nobody is amatuer anymore if they want to run a porn site for money.
And this is true in everything in our world...if you want to make some money, you have to be pro, otherwise you're lost (or have to be the child of a millionaire, but that's one thing I wouldn't call money-making, "money-getting" instead...)
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be sure to:
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3. zoom in and out real fast, alot
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7. try to shoot it in a single wide trailer, double wides tend to look professional
8. have a cell phone ring during the video or even a barking dog
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On the contrary, I think the internet + technology have been the driving force for amateur porn, it seems to be going stronger than ever. Now couples can buy resonable cheap digital cameras, take their own photos/video and upload to share or not to share..If you look at hahahahahaha there are also lots of amateurs showing off their stuff..it is almost to the point that it is considered ok to do a little porn..
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Old 01-23-2007, 12:59 PM   #47
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I think the problem has become the definition of "amateur". It seems lately, it's meant to imply teen...
I always looked at amateur as models that weren't teenyboppers with perky tits and cute faces, but rather women who had their little blemishes and maybe a little flab, had no implants and often did their 'work" from a living room, regular bedroom or kitchen..the set had almost as much to do with it as the model...

if I were to open whhat i called a real amateur site with a model who was maybe late 20's-early 30's, had some flab, breasts sagging a little with a poorly lit set of content shot in someone's living room, most affiliates would talk about "shes too fat" or "what a butter face" or even "eew, lose some weight, get some real lights and a real camera"

Would affiliates even promote a "real" amateur site anymore outside of the established like Homegrown?
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Old 01-23-2007, 01:03 PM   #48
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When an "Amateur" opens a pay-site, she becomes a pro...

If you're looking for Amateur porn that isn't for money, well, I surf around the profiles on my own network. Girls upload some amazing stuff that I know for a fact is actual amateur.

And, damn, the fact that it is true amateur stuff gets me a ton of traffic! Search for profiles with pictures at http://social.redlightcenter.com
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Old 01-23-2007, 01:13 PM   #49
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you have to look for boards that have amateur stuff. there are other place like voyeurweb that have it too. nowthatsfuckedup used to have some good stuff as well. There are lots out there, it's just a matter of finding them.

I don't think that any pay site that is hiring models can be considered amateur.
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if you sepnd half an hour searching I'm sure you will find some good stuff
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