Paying surfers to sign up for sites

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • MattO
    The O is for Oohhh
    • Feb 2003
    • 10861

    #1

    Paying surfers to sign up for sites

    Check this shit out

    http://biglbucks.com/bigl/

    These guys tell surfers to sign up for ifriends and webcams.com then say they'll paypal them money for doing it.



    ..
  • MattO
    The O is for Oohhh
    • Feb 2003
    • 10861

    #2
    Titties Titties Titties

    Boobs

    Comment

    • fallenmuffin
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2005
      • 8170

      #3
      lol ... they pay $4.99 he gets $45 for it.. sends them $20. Sounds pretty smart too me lol though alot of hassle

      Comment

      • stickyfingerz
        Doin fine
        • Oct 2005
        • 24984

        #4
        Originally posted by fallenmuffin
        lol ... they pay $4.99 he gets $45 for it.. sends them $20. Sounds pretty smart too me lol though alot of hassle
        Smart till the sponsors find them and can their account and keep whatever they made, leaving them having paid out to the surfers lol.

        Comment

        • Xplicit
          Confirmed User
          • May 2003
          • 3558

          #5
          Originally posted by stickyfingerz
          Smart till the sponsors find them and can their account and keep whatever they made, leaving them having paid out to the surfers lol.
          LOL yeah seriously, not a good idea.

          Comment

          • Agent 488
            Registered User
            • Feb 2006
            • 22511

            #6
            he moves on from sponser to sponser:

            http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=281340

            Comment

            • MattO
              The O is for Oohhh
              • Feb 2003
              • 10861

              #7
              So far sponsors are dropping his accounts for fraud. Wait till Paypal catches on.

              Comment

              • fuzebox
                making it rain
                • Oct 2003
                • 22352

                #8
                He even posts on gfy

                http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=692195

                Comment

                • MattO
                  The O is for Oohhh
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 10861

                  #9
                  Originally posted by fuzebox

                  Haw.

                  I've been seeing paid ad spots for his site on mainstream sites.

                  Comment

                  • Yanto
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 523

                    #10
                    That person must be so desperate for sales

                    [B][COLOR="Orange"]Contact me Yanto - Skype: yanto_webcashassoc

                    Comment

                    • martinsc
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 27047

                      #11
                      .
                      Make Money

                      Comment

                      • CuriousToyBoy
                        Crazy Aussie Bastard
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 16787

                        #12
                        Clever idea.

                        But at the same time fucking stupid.

                        2c
                        Celebs
                        Adult Who's Who ==> Ambush Interview ==> ICQ 293 070 684 ==> intmarpacrim AT gmail DOT com

                        Comment

                        • Mike Twist
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 18

                          #13
                          what a douche bag

                          Mike Stewart
                          ICQ : 454-318-292
                          MSN: twisted.mike [at] hotmail.com

                          Comment

                          • rezdesign
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 1502

                            #14
                            i'll take two bob
                            Professional Web Design and Programming: xDesignStudio.com

                            Comment

                            • aico
                              Moo Moo Cow
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 14748

                              #15
                              It's called giving a Rebate, and is common practice in mainstream, not sure why it wouldn't be allowed in Adult.

                              Comment

                              • FreeHugeMovies
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Dec 2001
                                • 14141

                                #16
                                YES I love making more money!

                                Comment

                                • KrisKross
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2006
                                  • 5025

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by aico
                                  It's called giving a Rebate, and is common practice in mainstream, not sure why it wouldn't be allowed in Adult.
                                  Surfer signs up for $1 trial. "Webmaster" gets paid $30+ for the $1 trial. Surfer cancels before trial rebills. Affiliate program gets fucked.

                                  Makes sense now?

                                  Comment

                                  • aico
                                    Moo Moo Cow
                                    • Mar 2004
                                    • 14748

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by KrisKross
                                    Surfer signs up for $1 trial. "Webmaster" gets paid $30+ for the $1 trial. Surfer cancels before trial rebills. Affiliate program gets fucked.

                                    Makes sense now?
                                    He's not telling them to cancel, he's not instructing them how to cancel, he's just giving them an incentive to join.

                                    You think people don't join trials and cancel all the time anyway?

                                    Comment

                                    • kane
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 20684

                                      #19
                                      I would be curious to see what his conversion rate form trial to full join is.

                                      Comment

                                      • datatank
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2004
                                        • 5471

                                        #20
                                        It is called Incentivized Traffic, It is huge in mainstream IE free ipods etc..

                                        Every once in a while some one comes along and tries to do it to the adult market. Personally I have never accepted it in mainstream..

                                        Comment

                                        • StickyGreen
                                          .
                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 13076

                                          #21
                                          I guess it would be okay if the people signing up were actually looking for a program to signup to, but in this case they are all planning to just cancel during the trial without even giving the site a chance...
                                          Refer Cam Girls and Take Home 10% of Everything They Make For Life

                                          Comment

                                          • stev0
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2003
                                            • 6801

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by aico
                                            It's called giving a Rebate, and is common practice in mainstream, not sure why it wouldn't be allowed in Adult.
                                            Are you kidding?
                                            Last edited by stev0; 01-09-2007, 11:01 PM.

                                            Comment

                                            • stev0
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2003
                                              • 6801

                                              #23
                                              It totally undermines the PPS system, fraud plain and simple. People are signing up to rip off a piece of the sponsors cash, not because they're interested in the site. When a sponsor pays PPS they're investing in a targetted customer, how well do you think his accounts rebill?
                                              Last edited by stev0; 01-09-2007, 11:06 PM.

                                              Comment

                                              • wtfent
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Nov 2003
                                                • 3790

                                                #24
                                                This thread made me laugh. Some people just dont get it. This guy is a total newb and now he is probably like what the hell did I get myself into this time.
                                                ThisWillShockYou.com DVD Store - TWSY UNCENSORED
                                                ICQ# 194020367 E-mail: shockingbucks(AT)gmail.com
                                                Promote something different!! Shocking Bucks

                                                Comment

                                                • stev0
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                  • 6801

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by datatank
                                                  It is called Incentivized Traffic, It is huge in mainstream IE free ipods etc..

                                                  Every once in a while some one comes along and tries to do it to the adult market. Personally I have never accepted it in mainstream..
                                                  I see it more like...

                                                  A car salesman selling cars to his friends to collect commision, then having his friends return the cars for a refund, then splitting the commision.

                                                  Comment

                                                  • SPACE GLIDER
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Oct 2006
                                                    • 1550

                                                    #26
                                                    is there a downside to his plan?
                                                    EarnCoin - Revive Your Ratios Now!

                                                    Pain Lessons |Orgastic Shock | Snatch Sizers

                                                    Comment

                                                    • Matt 26z
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                      • 18481

                                                      #27
                                                      Buyer kickbacks from affiliates are not uncommon in mainstream.

                                                      I'd love to see the adult industry allow them. It would eliminate shaving if you had surfers coming to you for their free gift after they signed up.

                                                      Comment

                                                      • Matt 26z
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Apr 2002
                                                        • 18481

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by wtfent
                                                        This thread made me laugh. Some people just dont get it. This guy is a total newb and now he is probably like what the hell did I get myself into this time.
                                                        Correct. He's only 18. I don't think he meant any harm. He most likely didn't know that rebates were not allowed in adult.

                                                        Comment

                                                        • chodadog
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                          • 9736

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by aico
                                                          It's called giving a Rebate, and is common practice in mainstream, not sure why it wouldn't be allowed in Adult.
                                                          It's nothing at all like a rebate. A rebate is me buying a product for $100 and getting something like $20 or $30 back. Show me a mainstream rebate where I can spend $1 and get myself a check for $20.

                                                          The guy is stealing from the sponsor. If anyone can't see that, they're fucking stupid.
                                                          26 + 6 = 1

                                                          Comment

                                                          • thaifan99
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                            • 3029

                                                            #30
                                                            i see red flags everywhere!
                                                            ARE YOU A FAMILY MEMBER? CLICK HERE TO FIND OUT!

                                                            Comment

                                                            • stev0
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                              • 6801

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                              Correct. He's only 18. I don't think he meant any harm. He most likely didn't know that rebates were not allowed in adult.
                                                              haha, true... 10 years ago I started out by joining chat rooms and asking people to click on my pay per click banner *shudder*. I'm just amazed at all of the replies from people that see nothing wrong with it.

                                                              Comment

                                                              • mattz
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                • 7697

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Yanto
                                                                That person must be so desperate for sales

                                                                that guy is probably making bank....and he probably doesn't pay the surfers anything

                                                                Comment

                                                                • Matt 26z
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                  • 18481

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Here is the email he sends out to surfers...

                                                                  ------
                                                                  Hello! You are recieving this email because you recently signed up to
                                                                  complete an offer at BigLBucks.com, the site where you can earn easy
                                                                  cash.

                                                                  Your transaction id is 312. Please write this down, or keep this email
                                                                  in your records.

                                                                  Please do not immeadiately cancel your account!

                                                                  You will recieve an email when you have been credited. It takes 1-5
                                                                  days to recieve credit.

                                                                  After you have recieved credit, you will recieve payment in 1-3 weeks.


                                                                  If you have any problems, feel free to email us at
                                                                  [email protected].

                                                                  Thanks!
                                                                  The BigLBucks Team
                                                                  ---------

                                                                  Comment

                                                                  • stev0
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                    • 6801

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I'd be interested in seeing what kind of advertising he does to get people to that page in the first place...

                                                                    Comment

                                                                    • aico
                                                                      Moo Moo Cow
                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                      • 14748

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by stev0
                                                                      Are you kidding?
                                                                      No I am not kidding I do it ALL the time in mainstream. If I have a product sale for a produt that is say $50.00, and that company is paying me 75% of the sale ($37.50), I can, and do, offer rebates up to $20 that I personally pay that person 90 days after the sale via PayPal.

                                                                      I have been doing it for years, and I make a lot of money doing it. It's very common practice.

                                                                      80% of the people don't even collect their rebates.

                                                                      Comment

                                                                      • frank7799
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                        • 1974

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by aico
                                                                        No I am not kidding I do it ALL the time in mainstream. If I have a product sale for a produt that is say $50.00, and that company is paying me 75% of the sale ($37.50), I can, and do, offer rebates up to $20 that I personally pay that person 90 days after the sale via PayPal.

                                                                        I have been doing it for years, and I make a lot of money doing it. It's very common practice.

                                                                        80% of the people don't even collect their rebates.
                                                                        That´s fine but can´t be compared to pps. Using it for revshare would be OK. Surfer buys a membership for $30.00, you get $15.00 and pay the surfer $5.00 back. No problem at all.

                                                                        But for pps it´s simply stealing from the sponsor.

                                                                        Comment

                                                                        • fr0gman
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                          • 2093

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Wow.. now THAT is an idea.
                                                                          Earn up to $.03 per Visitor -> No Click Monetization!
                                                                          "Because the World Wide Web is all about two things: horrifyingly stupid psychodrama, and naked chicks."
                                                                          Wild College Videos | ICQ: 7746696

                                                                          Comment

                                                                          • flashfire
                                                                            ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
                                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                                            • 13098

                                                                            #38
                                                                            well its pretty shady...I wonder how his conversions to full memberships is though? would be very interesting but this breaks the terms of every site I've seen for obvious reasons. Does he tell them to cancel trials?

                                                                            Comment

                                                                            • $5 submissions
                                                                              I help you SUCCEED
                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                              • 32195

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                              Smart till the sponsors find them and can their account and keep whatever they made, leaving them having paid out to the surfers lol.
                                                                              exactly.

                                                                              Comment

                                                                              • chodadog
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Apr 2002
                                                                                • 9736

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by aico
                                                                                No I am not kidding I do it ALL the time in mainstream. If I have a product sale for a produt that is say $50.00, and that company is paying me 75% of the sale ($37.50), I can, and do, offer rebates up to $20 that I personally pay that person 90 days after the sale via PayPal.

                                                                                I have been doing it for years, and I make a lot of money doing it. It's very common practice.

                                                                                80% of the people don't even collect their rebates.
                                                                                There's nothing at all wrong with that. You're giving a rebate. What this guy is doing is stealing from the sponsor program. You're cutting your own profit margin to give an incentive to the surfer to make a purchase. This guy is abusing the PPS system and the sponsor program is getting fucked.
                                                                                26 + 6 = 1

                                                                                Comment

                                                                                • Project-Shadow
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                  • 7340

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  If the guy was using it for Revshare purposes im sure the sponsors would have no issue at all. However the way he has it set up currently is leaning towards fraud.

                                                                                  Comment

                                                                                  • ravo
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                    • 5461

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Project-Shadow
                                                                                    However the way he has it set up currently is leaning towards fraud.
                                                                                    Not leaning; it *IS* fraud.
                                                                                    AdultAdBroker - Buy and Sell Your Flat Rate Banners, Links, Tabs, Pops, Email Clicks and Members' Area Traffic - updated May 2026

                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                    • mikeyddddd
                                                                                      Viva la vulva!
                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                      • 16557

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I thought about doing that years ago, but most programs did not allow offering buyer incentives in the TOS.

                                                                                      Comment

                                                                                      • MattO
                                                                                        The O is for Oohhh
                                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                                        • 10861

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by stev0
                                                                                        I'd be interested in seeing what kind of advertising he does to get people to that page in the first place...
                                                                                        Here's the banner ad that I've seen on mainstream sites

                                                                                        Comment

                                                                                        • scottybuzz
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • May 2006
                                                                                          • 14799

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          couldnt anybody say they signed up though. how on earth does he track his surfers? ahhh that gives me an idea ;)
                                                                                          $$$$$ MAKE HUGE MONEY IN CAMS - CLICK HERE $$$$$

                                                                                          Comment

                                                                                          • Adult-biz
                                                                                            Service Provider
                                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                                            • 2139

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            This is theft and fraud when the surfer is cancelling (and being told to cancel by the affiliate who is being paid for the join). No defence for this sort of shitty practise.

                                                                                            The guy has the audacity to question Silvercash for this not being in the Terms! Fucking laughable.

                                                                                            This practise of *rewarding* surfers to join sites and then paying after they cancel has been around for a while. This practise was occuring some years ago with Clickcash/iFriends sites.

                                                                                            Instant account termination from the sponsor should take place.

                                                                                            Comment

                                                                                            • Shoehorn!
                                                                                              Die With Your Boots On
                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                              • 22872

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by chodadog
                                                                                              It's nothing at all like a rebate. A rebate is me buying a product for $100 and getting something like $20 or $30 back. Show me a mainstream rebate where I can spend $1 and get myself a check for $20.

                                                                                              The guy is stealing from the sponsor. If anyone can't see that, they're fucking stupid.
                                                                                              Also the bulk of mainstream rebates are manufacturers rebates, so the money is coming from the manufacturer, not the store.

                                                                                              Comment

                                                                                              • madawgz
                                                                                                8.8.8.8
                                                                                                • Mar 2006
                                                                                                • 30509

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                that idea could work, if he didnt pay anyone....and he went on revshare lol
                                                                                                TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.

                                                                                                Comment

                                                                                                • MattO
                                                                                                  The O is for Oohhh
                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                  • 10861

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  The guy is posting on SomethingAwful's forums and telling people to cancel after they've signed up.


                                                                                                  http://forums.somethingawful.com/sho...stid=321109696
                                                                                                  http://www.biglbucks.com/

                                                                                                  Right now this site has two offers up:

                                                                                                  iFriends - Sign up and verify your account with a CC and get $20

                                                                                                  Webcams.com - Sign up for the $4.99 trial and get $28


                                                                                                  Apparently they payout in 1-3 weeks via PayPal
                                                                                                  I would be careful what email you use because I bet those webcam sites spam alot, but it looks like these are some pretty good offers. I'm gonna go give them a try.

                                                                                                  BE SURE TO CANCEL THE WEBCAMS.COM OFFER!! Otherwise they charge the $40 monthly fee!!!

                                                                                                  Comment

                                                                                                  • DaddyHalbucks
                                                                                                    A freakin' legend!
                                                                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                                                                    • 18975

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    If the sponsors were really smart they would pay the guy a nominal amount and follow the cancelled check to see where the money went.

                                                                                                    Then, sue the bastard!
                                                                                                    Boner Money

                                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                                    Working...