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| Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. | 
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|  01-09-2007, 08:32 AM | #1 | 
| Affiliate Industry Role:  Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 
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				FACT: Overoll ratios dropped %50 in a little over a year!
			 if it took you 600 uniques to make a sale a year ago, now you need 900 uniques to make a sale...thats a fact, and it will only become worse with time. adult internet bubble about to burst. | 
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|  01-09-2007, 08:35 AM | #2 | 
| 8.8.8.8 Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noordermarkt 
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				 | the sky is falling 
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|  01-09-2007, 08:40 AM | #3 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2006 Location: NY 
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				 | no money in porn. 
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|  01-09-2007, 08:47 AM | #4 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 
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				 | FACT: ratios dropped about 5 times compared to 8 years ago 
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|  01-09-2007, 08:50 AM | #5 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada 
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				 | Yeah, I know what you mean, I have terrible average ratios these days... 1:250   
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|  01-09-2007, 08:52 AM | #6 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 
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				 | if ratios were as good as 8 years ago, owners of domains like bigtits.com would redirect them to paysites and convert 1:150 instead of parking 
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|  01-09-2007, 08:53 AM | #7 | 
| Sick Fuck Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www 
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				 | If you include bothits, yes. | 
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|  01-09-2007, 09:01 AM | #8 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles 
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				 | about 6 years ago, I had talked to the owner of bigtits.com and he wanted like half a million for the domain name. It looks like the domain has a new owner now, and it looks like the guy also hangs out here at gfy. | 
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|  01-09-2007, 09:05 AM | #9 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: T.O. 
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				 | how much has the gross amount of adult traffic increased? I wrote a huge post about this one time, discussing the increasing 'velocity' of adult traffic. Conversion ratios are a 'fools stat'. 
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|  01-09-2007, 09:14 AM | #10 | |
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 
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				 | Quote: 
 I wonder how much he got for them, but it's irrelevant to this thread since its about ratios, not domains... 
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|  01-09-2007, 09:19 AM | #11 | 
| rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ 
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				 | lol, maybe your ratios are 1:900 over there in tgp land 
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|  01-09-2007, 04:54 PM | #12 | 
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				 | those 1:900 ratios from tgp land gave your broke us a donation when you were begging for money here on gfy. | 
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|  01-09-2007, 08:12 PM | #13 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler 
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				 | Going down you mean? | 
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|  01-09-2007, 08:28 PM | #14 | 
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. 
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				 | The funny part is if you asked the programs to post their ratios, they would claim everything is about the same as this time last year. Program owners? Want to talk about it? | 
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|  01-09-2007, 08:45 PM | #15 | 
| ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 
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				 | my personal ratios have been better this year | 
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|  01-09-2007, 09:10 PM | #16 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: TrafficGigolos.com 
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				 | Qualify your traffic better. 
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|  01-09-2007, 09:20 PM | #17 | |
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				 | Quote: 
  
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|  01-09-2007, 09:23 PM | #18 | 
| Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area 
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				 |  ADG Webmaster | 
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|  01-10-2007, 02:14 PM | #19 | 
| Affiliate Industry Role:  Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 
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				 | so now im not on ignore? | 
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|  01-10-2007, 02:35 PM | #20 | 
| rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ 
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				 | yea keep throwing up shit from 3-4 years ago....& then icq me your paypal information, so i can look it up..& send it back to you + interest | 
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|  01-10-2007, 02:36 PM | #21 | 
| rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ 
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				 | icq = 440 887 | 
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|  01-10-2007, 03:07 PM | #22 | 
| No Refunds Issued. Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY 
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|  01-10-2007, 03:47 PM | #23 | |
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 If there were an adult internet bubble, it burst at least 5 or 6 years ago, so nothing new there. Although the sky is not falling, why would you expect results to be going anywhere but south? The growth in internet usage from countries acceptable to card processors has been slowing for several years, while competition within the industry has risen sharply. With a relatively small amount of fresh traffic to fight over, most apparent growth has come from the purchase of traffic which is near worthless either because of its source and/or because it has been recycled several times. Whatever peoples' opinions of TGP's, they are responsible for a huge part of the adult internet traffic pool and many are now seeing only 30%-40% US traffic, instead of the 60%-70% which was common 3 or 4 years ago. Much of the non-US traffic is near worthless (see last para), but the fact remains that we gear most of our marketing, content and prices towards the US market and make little effort to maximise sales to other countries. If we had a product with less built-in universal appeal, we would be doing even worse. In addition, the vast majority of us have spent years promoting over-priced, third-rate crap (try to come up with more than 50 or so sites on which you might actually spend your own money). Since our potential market includes a higher proportion of experienced surfers every year, it is surely inevitable that they become harder to persuade. | |
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|  01-10-2007, 03:51 PM | #24 | 
| In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska 
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				 | not if you have the right traffic | 
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|  01-10-2007, 04:00 PM | #25 | 
| Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 
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				 | Fact: There will be more online porn recurrings in 2007 then EVER!  Stats might have gone down yes, but think of how many MORE with an internet connection today than 2-3 years ago. But the scary part is that surfers are getting much much smarter. Torrents and p2p and forums can bring you SHITLOADS of free porn (full dvd's, pics and even games) 
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|  01-10-2007, 04:03 PM | #26 | 
| The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles 
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				 | It's not my fault you have shitty traffic. | 
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|  01-10-2007, 04:08 PM | #27 | |
| So fuckin' bored Industry Role:  Join Date: Jun 2003 
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 P.S. I don't name my sites here to don't make this post look like a banal spam. The numbers above are just my own private statistics. 
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|  01-10-2007, 04:11 PM | #28 | 
| Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 
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				 | i'd say - i'm doing great like anyways - and i have only moved one way the last 4 years - and thats up ( signup wise ) 
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|  01-10-2007, 04:31 PM | #29 | |
| So fuckin' bored Industry Role:  Join Date: Jun 2003 
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|  01-10-2007, 04:42 PM | #30 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta 
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				 | My ratios were better in '06 than they were in '05... so far this year i'm at 1:550, not bad at all IMO. I'm probably just getting better at picking what I promote though. ps. see sig, that's my actual ratio with radical so far on tgp traffic... far from 1:900 | 
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