some more good stuff here at GFY

Are you referring to the second one re the big check and the itchy vagina comment? Couldn't agree more.

and wasting time by having the staff posting on gfy about a 5 dollar charge has made you more productive how? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You're so right. Wizzo went way to far this time! Porn is so mature and sophisticated and this is a blight on our long history of being a very rigid company!

I gotta run I have to review a double fisting anal squirt video for my local art club.

and you guys convert awesome. I may not be sending you guys a shit load of traffic, but I still make sales from the traffic I do send and always convert well below 1:100

:thumbsup working with you is a pleasure Yngwie

It's not as good as the midget tranny anal snowballing video I got from Wizzo earlier :winkwink:

I didn't say anyone went too far, just don't understand the need to make derogatory comments?

How does double fisting have anything to do with insulting peoples intelligence?

LOL you're looking for a fight I guess. No one said anything about your mother dude relax. As for fisting, I suggest you try it, it's very relaxing and you can walk on your elbows. No go play in traffic weirdo :)

Mayors Money = the Next Epic Cash?

ramos dude, which of your MM feeds update frequently ?

A few i checked have no update in a while...

Yeah this definately sucks, never had a program do this no matter how small they were.

Don't count on it. If you look at the first couple posts (as I have said endlessly) You'll see it was not us that was name calling. In fact my response to "who" was pretty respectful considering his attitude.

Just because I won't agree with someone doesn't mean I am rude. They can have their opinion I have mine :)

Everyone who's addressed the topic with respect has been treated in kind. I, just like you, won't lay down for a verbal whoopin for no reason. Come at me looking to argue, I'll play. However, start out with insults and you'll be dismissed.

Gallery ones should update daily.

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Scroto, if ya need anything else, let me know, I just hit you up on icq, but says your not logged on. Ok Bed Time for me night night

I think Mayor should deposit a free $5 in Jace's account (covering the next payout) for starting this thread and giving so much exposure.

I also think Mayor should deposit a free $5 in my account (covering the next payout) just because I'm such a cool fucking guy.

:-)

my bad, i rebooted and forgot to log back in :1orglaugh

Epassporte charges - thats why I don't use them for any payout. Checks may not be a instant way of getting your money but atleast it's free (or was in this case)

Boy you just jump in to bash don't ya :) Checks are still free, just as they were before. Only catch is I raised min payout. If you still want small checks, you have a CHOICE.
We learned how to compromise in this thread today :)

I agree, email me your accounts!

Hmm... interesting.

......edit...

Mayor, did you seriously call me a fucktard back there, inadvertently?

I send some programs very little trickle traffic, and others get significantly more. Some programs convert, others don't! I have somewhere near 100 sponsor acccounts, and if this becomes normal practice I will face a serious dent in my business.

I know some people send all their traffic to one or two sponsors, and that's fine, but some affiliates don't. I'm not sure why you don't want ALL of us to work towards making Mayors Money more money in 2007, though? If our links aren't valuable to you, and I'm a "fucktard" for not sending your specific program more traffic, then please tell me here.

If you absolutely must take 5-10% of every cheque I get from your program, then I guess I'll just spend my time elsewhere. It's the principle of the thing. We all know it doesn't cost you $5 to send the cheque, you yourself admit that you're making an uhhh ethical stand against cheques I guess.

Why do I have to buy into this madness?

It's also a little disturbing to see the big giant ego's of those who have 'made it' in this industry making comments against the little guys, who have legitimate points. 5% of $1 is still 5%, and you'd be a more humble and probably wealthy individual if you watched your 5%'s.

I think it's a bit strange to see the same people who go to conferences to attract new affiliates, relationships, attend seminars, learn about different areas of the business, and generally come together as an industry balk at newbies. These are the next generation of individuals who will line your pockets.

I'd like to know how much money you folks have made in total from small affiliates who got one or two cheques and keep a balance for months and years on end that rarely if ever gets paid out.

You are shooting yourself in the feet, while at the same time laughing at the small people who may very well eclipse you dinosaurs. They see your foolishness. Don't get too comfortable! A little humility goes a long way.

I would be curious to see how much money a program makes (keeps) from all the people who send a sale or two but never reach a min payout. I bet it is a LOT of money for larger programs.

As someone stated before the little guys allow the big companies to have more working capital to use on their business without having to pay interest on it.

I wonder if the big check option is really fixing the problem of avoiding fees for the smaller affiliates. Say someone makes $100 a week with your program, now he has to wait 2.5 months to get a payout (assuming your big check option min is $1,000) He waits to avoid the $5 fee but ties up his money for months. I think most people in this situation would pay the $5. However it is a win win for you. You either make money off of them by you sending the check every week and collecting $5 or you tie up their money longer now, where you can use it interest free or hell put it all in an interest baring account and collect interest on their money.

Don't flatter yourself and think I am "making bones" with you. If I wanted to pump my ego making bones I would go start 50 fuck lars threads. I am just debating a way of doing business which you happen to do so I am naturally directing my questions to you. I could give a shit which program you own, etc... if any other companies that charge a check fee want to debate it I could talk to them instead if you like.

It's only $500... if an affiliate is promoting dozens of other programs in small amounts im sure they won't mind waiting a month for the cheque. I promote around 20 or so programs (and in the majority of those i'm a small affiliate) and i'm sure the MayorsMoney guys find dealing with $25 or $50 cheques just as annoying as I do. Personally I'd rather wait.

Mayors money = Fucking the little guys up the ass.

I personally wouldn't have a problem with a $500 payout like you said. I guess $500 isn't that bad for most people. he mentioned $1,000 + earlier which I think is a little rediculas even for my taste.

At least he offers an option to send checks free now. SO which companies force you to pay to receive checks ?

LO Fucking L

People wasting hours of their time to complain about a measely $5, at least you all got your priorities in order.

Mayor, you should get one of those money booths at the shows, then all these whinning bitches can get in there and try to grab their $5 fees back.

Hold the fuck on, isn't he the one clamouring for the $5 bills?

I lose internet for a little while a miss a 6 pager :(

Holy fuck, why am I reading this shit?

5 fucking dollars, if that bothers you, you are in the wrong business!

Ghost I just added you to ICQ, hit me up, 1209684

Principle. If you don't stand for something, you fall for anything.

And it's not $5. It's convenient to call it $5, but it's really $5 per cheque for at least the next few years, as long as Mayor is in business. You can roll over and play dead if you want to.

from very little traffic and it's not SE traffic.

Total: 6228 4224 1065 1:114 1:29 37 $1,060.00

You're pretty upset over this. Tell me, how does this affect you? Your comment about "principals" makes no sense. This isn't a forced tax, it's a choice. You can choose to lower you min payout and pay a check fee or you can CHOOSE to set your min payout to 500 and have no check fee :) Or you can choose to be paid be epass and have no fee. It's interesting how many choices I give yet you're angry about one option. Doesn't make sense to me why you should care. You've probably never used Mayor's Money and you probably never will why are you so obsessed with me? Is it my crocs or my cute wife?

what site(s) are you promoting?

mainly Brooke Skye and Samantha Guage. A little of Kat and Faith.

this thread is useless without pics :1orglaugh

I'm upset that you're taking a stance against affiliates like us who promote your sites. I do in fact promote your sites, and I rarely get checks as large as $500 from smaller sponsors. I'm usually walking into the bank with 50-60 cheques though. So yes, if I had to pay $5 per cheque per sponsor, you can imagine how this might add up?

Aren't you losing more than you're gaining by this? I don't think I'm alone here, Rabbits runs a similar site to ours, and you seemed to deal with his issues seriously. Maybe he shouldn't have cared either?

I'm not embarassed, a buck is a buck, and you agree or you wouldn't be pulling this. You obviously care about the $5 too.

I just want to clear up some shit about Ramos, you all are making it sound like I am making shit up, not the case!

Ramos and I chatted about rss feeds that were needing to be improved for the MM program, he asked what I thought and I told him, and he pretty much said everything I suggested was in the works, including a rss blog feed for every solo girl....and he said "next week", or "very soon" to everything

I also suggested that all the Brooke blog posts be uniform, with links and pics (still not done)...hell, some of the Brooke blog posts STILL don't even have AFFILIATE LINKS in them!!! how are surfers supposed to get to the Brooke site if there aren't even any freakin links in the blog posts?

so, now, going back into the Mayor's Money backend I see that Brooke still has no links in her blog posts and it is the ONLY true blog rss available, sorry, but hosted gallery feeds don't count guys, in fact most bloggers just laugh when programs proclaim "we now have rss feeds!!" and they are just hosted gallery feeds...can we say "easy way out"?

you run a solo girl program, you all work your asses off, you have GREAT sites...why not put forth some extra effort and go that extra mile from bloggers and give us solo girl blogs for each of the girls in your program so we can use that rss for our blogs? oh yeah, don't forget to add FUCKING LINKS so the surfer can click on something to actually get to the solo girl site!

And your comments about it being a choice, are ridiculous. I didn't sign up to your program when you had a $5 per cheque fee, I found out about it in this thread, just like everyone else did. You backtracked to your current stance, by dreaming up this $500 threshold you are so proud of.

Either way, most programs pay out at $50, charge a fair, if any cheque fee, and still offer epass too.

You laugh at me for my sales to your sites, pay out at $500, or charge an unfair $5 fee to penalize me. Oh, and you offer epass.

You're really setting yourself apart from the norm here.

I am confused at which part of "choose a higher check payment or use epass, if you don't want to pay the $5" that you are having so much trouble with.

You guys are so egotistical, you won't even admit that $5 is important to you. And why on earth would I want to set my minimum payment to more than I've ever made with the program? Having hundreds of dollars sitting waiting to be paid out at a single small sponsor is pretty bad business practice.

I was taught to cash checks when you get them, and collect your debts. That's pretty basic shit. Get the money while it's still there to be had.

So let's look at the counter point of your argument.

Where is the value of this to me, as an affiliate of Mayor's Money?

Dude, you're full of shit. I didn't laugh at your sales I don't even know you.
I don't charge a dime to pay by epass and almost ALL programs do. I don't charge for checks unless you want the small ones. What are you bitchin about?

Did I back peddle? Sure :) I actually did a little and I'm not ashamed! I came to a fair compromise offered more easy cost free ways to be paid and listened to issues. You fall into a category of "you can't please all people all the time" I'm not going to try. You're the kind of person who's never wrong, must have everything their way and frankly I wouldn't want to work with you any way. It's why we're invite only. We get to choose who we deal with now so that we're not wasting time on people who can never be pleased and never produce any way.

I use eP so this $5 check fee doesn't make any direct difference to me at all. But I still can't figure out what any sane webmaster is doing actually supporting charges.

Since sponsors are going to make their money one way or another, maybe there isn't a whole lot of point in giving them flack when they do move the goalposts in the wrong - from our point of view - direction. But what possesses even the dumbest affiliate to encourage them to do that?

Listen, no offense, but if you've never made more than 500 with any program you should spend more time on your biz and less time here. If you are really that bad, hit me on ICQ this afternoon and in a week I can teach you to make over 1000 a week with our program. (I'll even wire you the money :) ) There is no excuse for such low income!

lol. You're a bit of a doorknob.

You just said that I can never be pleased, but you've never met me, and don't know me.

You only met me because I noticed this GFY post, and made some comments that don't sit well with you.

I must be really demanding.

Your "fair compromise" is a wolf in sheep's clothing, and is plain to see. It rewards you with all the bonuses you wanted out of this plan, without hurting your bottomline. But really, how does it help me?

And about how much money we make... Did you even click through to my site? Let's do this then!! I accept your challenge. If you think you can have us making $500 cheques from you, then let's try together, teach me. I think our site is a pretty good place to start? I'm already on your ICQ.

Bingo, we have a winner.