Just had a guy ask me to design for a pirate DVD site - GoFuckYourself.com

Twisted Dave · 01-04-2007, 12:46 PM

Which I wont do.

I said no. He persisted. I said no. Anyways ... what would everyone else say?

I don't want to be involved in that kind of site, even at a design stage.

Thoughts?

the Shemp · 01-04-2007, 12:47 PM

not into that pirate niche...

interracialtoons · 01-04-2007, 12:50 PM

Design the site then claim it was pirated.

Screaming · 01-04-2007, 12:53 PM

can i get the url?

Love cheap dvds

cardinalvices · 01-04-2007, 12:55 PM

Tell him to use Template Monster

Scottish Guy · 01-04-2007, 12:59 PM

why pay for pirates when you can download?

Dirty F · 01-04-2007, 12:59 PM

I would say yes.

Basic_man · 01-04-2007, 01:05 PM

Like you said, it's only in the design stage. The design isn't illegal, it's the content. If he paid good money, I would have done it.

01-04-2007, 01:06 PM

Dang guys - I clicked on this thinking it was gonna be a site that sells pirate themed DVDs haha - I love Pirate Porn arghhhh mattey

Pimpin_J · 01-04-2007, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twisted Illustration

Which I wont do.

I said no. He persisted. I said no. Anyways ... what would everyone else say?

I don't want to be involved in that kind of site, even at a design stage.

Thoughts?

Good decision

starpimps · 01-04-2007, 01:16 PM

good call, designing for shady ass people sucks

o0o_Lizard_o0o · 01-04-2007, 01:17 PM

nice decision dude! two thumbs up for you...

aico · 01-04-2007, 01:17 PM

Do you know him personally? You'd have to be an idiot to tell someone you don't know that you are about to do something illegal.

BitAudioVideo · 01-04-2007, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basic_man

Like you said, it's only in the design stage. The design isn't illegal, it's the content. If he paid good money, I would have done it.

your willing to assist him in getting his illegal site off the ground... his site takes money out of my pocket.

that makes you an accomplice.

Twisted Dave · 01-04-2007, 01:29 PM

I don't know the guy and he didn't tell me it was illegal until he showed me the blurb he wanted on the site ...

DVD's that aren't even in US Theatres ... etc etc...

lol...

I know as much as the next man about DVD Rips, and Screeners, and downloading etc.... But for one, I don't do it... (limit on my net bandwidth for a start!) and secondly, I just don't wanna be involved with it.

DWB · 01-04-2007, 01:37 PM

I would out this fucker.

Fuck anyone who makes money off of pirated content. Online, DVD or otherwise.

RawAlex · 01-04-2007, 02:30 PM

Was the pirate naked XXX pirate movies or just regular Johnny Depp pirate movies?

I'm confused.

DirtyDanza · 01-04-2007, 02:33 PM

business is business.. you have to leave your heart and feelings at the door in business... budwiser still sells beer even though dui deaths are at an all time high... I think you saying no to design a site is bad business on your part.. but as a business owner you have the right to choose what you design and what you do not design... just like wal mart.. they chose not to sell FHM mag and STUFF mag but they still sell guns that kill so tell me.. what is right and what is wrong...

flashfire · 01-04-2007, 02:35 PM

I would have to be hurtin

riddler · 01-04-2007, 02:47 PM

you sure its not just a nFO site? type of site that tells the new releases to the scene? like nforce.nl?

Twisted Dave · 01-04-2007, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

business is business.. you have to leave your heart and feelings at the door in business... budwiser still sells beer even though dui deaths are at an all time high... I think you saying no to design a site is bad business on your part.. but as a business owner you have the right to choose what you design and what you do not design... just like wal mart.. they chose not to sell FHM mag and STUFF mag but they still sell guns that kill so tell me.. what is right and what is wrong...

Buying guns is legal in the USA .... but buying pirated movies is illegal. Is it wise for me to have my name, Twisted Illustration, associated with an illegal DVD site? I think it's completely different.

I don't think it was bad business. Sure, if you wanna earn a quick buck, doing jobs like this is fine. But I think the Twisted Illustration name means something and I have long term plans that extend far beyond the adult webmaster clients list ...

But your view proves that people would happily do this kind of thing. So it's interesting to say the least.

Twisted Dave · 01-04-2007, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riddler

you sure its not just a nFO site? type of site that tells the new releases to the scene? like nforce.nl?

No, the ad was for selling DVD's

spanky_bottoms · 01-04-2007, 03:27 PM

I would also have to say no way. Pirated DVD's also takes money out of MY pocket and anyone else's who takes the time to make videos and work hard to market and sell them.

Lazy fucks like that don't deserve help from anyone and should be taken out back and shot.

Just my two cents worth.

madawgz · 01-04-2007, 03:43 PM

who cares, just make the layout

its not that big of a deal

get paid man

ztik · 01-04-2007, 03:45 PM

yarghhh

BitAudioVideo · 01-04-2007, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madawgz

who cares, just make the layout

its not that big of a deal

get paid man

you think your sponsor webair will host the site?
it is a big deal

donkevlar · 01-04-2007, 03:59 PM

HAHAHA! You people have your morals twisted in every direction. It's hard for me to believe that people in the porn industry are such pussy law abiding petunia muffins.

You work in an industry flooded with criminals, drugs, prostitution etc and when it comes to pirating movies you turn into law abiding snitches. Pffft.

spanky_bottoms · 01-04-2007, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donkevlar

HAHAHA! You people have your morals twisted in every direction. It's hard for me to believe that people in the porn industry are such pussy law abiding petunia muffins.

You work in an industry flooded with criminals, drugs, prostitution etc and when it comes to pirating movies you turn into law abiding snitches. Pffft.

I will speak for myself when I say it has nothing to do with abiding by the law, it's simply a matter of decency in an industry that has none.

If you are someone like me who makes a living from selling my personal videos, then it's not real cool when someone steals them and makes the same money while I do all the work.

Save your self righteousness -- if it were your videos you would be pissed too.

lazycash · 01-04-2007, 04:36 PM

I would find another very popular pirated dvd site. Rip it and then quickly make an exact template. Agree to do the site and in one hour deliver the ripped template. What's he going to say at that point, "hey you stole this design from that other site" Just say there's nothing wrong with stealing someone else's work and demand payment.

CyberHustler · 01-04-2007, 04:41 PM

some of these fools that say go ahead and design it are the ones who will start a thread about how you're fucked up for being involved in such a site...

abyss_al · 01-04-2007, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

business is business.. you have to leave your heart and feelings at the door in business... budwiser still sells beer even though dui deaths are at an all time high... I think you saying no to design a site is bad business on your part.. but as a business owner you have the right to choose what you design and what you do not design... just like wal mart.. they chose not to sell FHM mag and STUFF mag but they still sell guns that kill so tell me.. what is right and what is wrong...

wrong. budweiser is not illegal in the US.. piracy is

abusing the consumption of alcohol and breaking the law by driving drunk is the person's choice and idiocy... has nothing to do with 'business is business' or any way buweiser's fault

however, affiliating yourself with someone/company that is doing shady shit, then its a tough decision on which route to take... i say fuck em.. there is plenty of work out there

lucky1 · 01-04-2007, 04:50 PM

I am pretty disappointed by some of the responses in this thread.
I think some people would have responded differently if someone had asked you to do a design for a site that was pirating their content.

What you did was a good thing.
Few people in this industry can see past the quick money and make good decisions. That is why this industry is filled with people who lie cheat and steal.

Now if he had bought you a drink at a show then of course you should have done the design. Otherwise you would not be considered a top not guy by the scumbags of the industry.

chris_joseph · 01-04-2007, 05:01 PM

lol... he asked me too to design his site.

here's the texts he want to appear on his pirated DVD site:

Quote:

"UNRELEASED STILL-IN-THEATER MOVIES - AVAILABLE NOW ON DVD"
"PERFECT QUALITY SOUND AND PICTURE - SAME AS ANY OTHER DVD"
"CHEAPER THAN THE COST OF ONE MOVIE TICKET - EXCLUSIVE VIEWING"
"PROMPT DISCRETE DELIVERY - OFFSHORE OWNED & OPERATED"
"WATCH THE LATEST BOX OFFICE HITS IN THE COMFORT OF YOUR OWN HOME"

damn!

shekinah · 01-04-2007, 05:06 PM

Nice decision buddy!.

needlive · 01-04-2007, 05:45 PM

You made the right choice. It's a lot better - staying away from piracy.

Pleasurepays · 01-04-2007, 06:13 PM

you should always do whatever your conscience and the law will allow you to. its business. the only person that can answer the "whats the right thing to do" question in these situations is you imho.

chupacabra · 01-04-2007, 06:17 PM

good call on your part to turn down the job, but i'd personally be against the whole call for "outing" the guy, and not just because you'd be advertising his site to the surfers who infest gfy these days..

escorpio · 01-04-2007, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash

I would find another very popular pirated dvd site. Rip it and then quickly make an exact template. Agree to do the site and in one hour deliver the ripped template. What's he going to say at that point, "hey you stole this design from that other site" Just say there's nothing wrong with stealing someone else's work and demand payment.

best answer

mrthumbs · 01-04-2007, 07:18 PM

I wouldnt euther.. never trusted that Chio guy.

Nysus · 01-04-2007, 07:30 PM

I'd say get 100% payment first either way...

Matt

dissipate · 01-04-2007, 07:34 PM

I love dirty pirate hookers.... wait.... wrong thread.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 01-04-2007, 07:44 PM

get a full payment on the site, then don't do the design. ask them what it feels like to have their money ripped off by some random on the internet. the irony will be fantastic..

StickyGreen · 01-04-2007, 07:45 PM

I think you made the right decision...

reynold · 01-04-2007, 07:51 PM

If it's not your cup of tea, then don't do it..

gecko · 01-04-2007, 08:23 PM

you made the right decison

BlueDesignStudios · 01-04-2007, 11:45 PM

lol I thought you meant a DVD site about pirates...

pr0 · 01-04-2007, 11:49 PM

could just be for a fake pirate site, to push blind clicks...never know

tony286 · 01-04-2007, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

business is business.. you have to leave your heart and feelings at the door in business... budwiser still sells beer even though dui deaths are at an all time high... I think you saying no to design a site is bad business on your part.. but as a business owner you have the right to choose what you design and what you do not design... just like wal mart.. they chose not to sell FHM mag and STUFF mag but they still sell guns that kill so tell me.. what is right and what is wrong...

you produce content and have that attitude ? lol You can be in business and have morals and ethics.

Dagwolf · 01-04-2007, 11:52 PM

Never trust a thief to pay your salary.

tombarr · 01-05-2007, 12:11 AM

I think your initial response is the most correct.

No money is worth supporting illegal businesses. Those that advocate it being just a business decision and, in fact a bad one, to refuse this work, needs to reconsider. It's illegal to sell pirated videos. It's also illegal to sell CP. Would that just be simply a business decision not to design a site for them as well or is it just certain illegal sites that are subject to the "it's just business" decision making process?

Illegal is Illegal. Don't support it.

01-04-2007, 12:46 PM	#1
Twisted Dave Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,635	Just had a guy ask me to design for a pirate DVD site Which I wont do. I said no. He persisted. I said no. Anyways ... what would everyone else say? I don't want to be involved in that kind of site, even at a design stage. Thoughts? __________________ Custom Cartoon Mascots - ICQ: 243355699, Email: [email protected] or Click Sig - 15% referrals. Send me clients, make money!

01-04-2007, 12:47 PM	#2
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01-04-2007, 12:50 PM	#3
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01-04-2007, 12:53 PM	#4
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01-04-2007, 12:59 PM	#6
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01-04-2007, 12:59 PM	#7
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	I would say yes.

01-04-2007, 01:05 PM	#8
Basic_man Programming King Pin Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 27,360	Like you said, it's only in the design stage. The design isn't illegal, it's the content. If he paid good money, I would have done it. __________________ UUGallery Builder - automated photo/video gallery plugin for Wordpress! Stop looking! Checkout Naked Hosting, online since 1999 !

01-04-2007, 01:06 PM	#9
chartgraves Guest Posts: n/a	Dang guys - I clicked on this thinking it was gonna be a site that sells pirate themed DVDs haha - I love Pirate Porn arghhhh mattey

01-04-2007, 01:16 PM	#11
starpimps Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: internets Posts: 6,954	good call, designing for shady ass people sucks __________________ Teen Porn Models / Solo Girls

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01-04-2007, 01:17 PM	#13
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	Do you know him personally? You'd have to be an idiot to tell someone you don't know that you are about to do something illegal.

01-04-2007, 01:29 PM	#15
Twisted Dave Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,635	I don't know the guy and he didn't tell me it was illegal until he showed me the blurb he wanted on the site ... DVD's that aren't even in US Theatres ... etc etc... lol... I know as much as the next man about DVD Rips, and Screeners, and downloading etc.... But for one, I don't do it... (limit on my net bandwidth for a start!) and secondly, I just don't wanna be involved with it. __________________ Custom Cartoon Mascots - ICQ: 243355699, Email: [email protected] or Click Sig - 15% referrals. Send me clients, make money!

01-04-2007, 01:37 PM	#16
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	I would out this fucker. Fuck anyone who makes money off of pirated content. Online, DVD or otherwise.

01-04-2007, 02:30 PM	#17
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01-04-2007, 02:33 PM	#18
DirtyDanza Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: BP4L.... Las Vegas, Posts: 8,370	business is business.. you have to leave your heart and feelings at the door in business... budwiser still sells beer even though dui deaths are at an all time high... I think you saying no to design a site is bad business on your part.. but as a business owner you have the right to choose what you design and what you do not design... just like wal mart.. they chose not to sell FHM mag and STUFF mag but they still sell guns that kill so tell me.. what is right and what is wrong... __________________ AVN Nominated Camming Couple

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01-04-2007, 03:27 PM	#23
spanky_bottoms Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 157	I would also have to say no way. Pirated DVD's also takes money out of MY pocket and anyone else's who takes the time to make videos and work hard to market and sell them. Lazy fucks like that don't deserve help from anyone and should be taken out back and shot. Just my two cents worth. __________________ Pimp Project Spanky Bottoms Webmaster Programs

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donkevlar Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,325	HAHAHA! You people have your morals twisted in every direction. It's hard for me to believe that people in the porn industry are such pussy law abiding petunia muffins. You work in an industry flooded with criminals, drugs, prostitution etc and when it comes to pirating movies you turn into law abiding snitches. Pffft. __________________ [email protected]

01-04-2007, 04:36 PM	#29
lazycash Troll Patrol Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal Posts: 15,214	I would find another very popular pirated dvd site. Rip it and then quickly make an exact template. Agree to do the site and in one hour deliver the ripped template. What's he going to say at that point, "hey you stole this design from that other site" Just say there's nothing wrong with stealing someone else's work and demand payment. __________________ "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams.. Its crazy..." VenusBlogger

01-04-2007, 04:41 PM	#30
CyberHustler Masterbaiter Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 26,189	some of these fools that say go ahead and design it are the ones who will start a thread about how you're fucked up for being involved in such a site...

01-04-2007, 04:50 PM	#32
lucky1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 309	I am pretty disappointed by some of the responses in this thread. I think some people would have responded differently if someone had asked you to do a design for a site that was pirating their content. What you did was a good thing. Few people in this industry can see past the quick money and make good decisions. That is why this industry is filled with people who lie cheat and steal. Now if he had bought you a drink at a show then of course you should have done the design. Otherwise you would not be considered a top not guy by the scumbags of the industry. __________________ - See sig --->

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01-04-2007, 06:13 PM	#36
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	you should always do whatever your conscience and the law will allow you to. its business. the only person that can answer the "whats the right thing to do" question in these situations is you imho.

01-04-2007, 06:17 PM	#37
chupacabra Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,626	good call on your part to turn down the job, but i'd personally be against the whole call for "outing" the guy, and not just because you'd be advertising his site to the surfers who infest gfy these days.. __________________ ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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01-04-2007, 07:44 PM	#42
Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	get a full payment on the site, then don't do the design. ask them what it feels like to have their money ripped off by some random on the internet. the irony will be fantastic..

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