Avn Online = The Shittiest Publication .

[Arab_Sex]

The so called "unscripted " and "unbiased" article regarding PAYMONDE was a personal slap to hundreds,if not thousand's,IF NOT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of webmasters' faces and to the affiliates who do the grunt work.

You do know who the affiliates webmasters are,don't you?

Its US webmasters and affiliates who keep YOU in business, not the other way around. REMEMBER THAT.

Its US affiliates and webmasters who can make or break a site. REMEMBER THAT.

Any TRUE journalistic publication would of REPORTED THE STORY AS IS.

To quote YOUR publications editorial word for word:
"
Although an official statement by the company had yet to be made, Cohen said he had placed an announcement on the site?s back-end and personally contacted several clients to let them know the news. At press time, the site was inactive. ?I feel [terrible] about it,? he bemoaned. ?We worked hard. We were always out there on the forefront, and we really cared about our webmasters. " END OF QUOTE.

"Cohen told AVNOnline.com that he sees Paymonde?s implosion as a cautionary tale. " END OF QUOTE.

1. Does your editorial writer or AVN ONLINE know the difference between an official and unofficial statement?

Paymonde's C.O.O ALLOWED AVN ONLINE to INTERVIEW him knowing all information he disclosed would be disseminated PUBLICALLY.
Thats not an " official " statement?

2. " At press time the site was inactive" ????
"Cohen told AVNOnline.com that he sees ....." ???

Im guessing im a fucking moron thinking that a PRESS CONFERENCE,or quoting a statement made directly to a news publication means its an OFFICAL INTERVIEW.

Thanks AVN ONLINE for educating me, teaching me that a PRESS conference and DIRECT QUOTES from a PRESS CONFERENCE isnt an OFFICIAL press meeting.

3. Why didn't AVN ONLINE question and report UNBIASLY his UNPROFESSIONAL/ILLEGAL decision on how he chose to contact HIS CLIENTS that THEIR FUNDS are BEING HELD?

4. Why hasnt AVN ONLINE published a follow up story regarding the ILLEGAL and UNPROFESSIONAL manner in which Paymonde has been conducting itself within the PUBLIC ARENA in specifically choosing who to pay and not who to pay, and who TO PAY IN FULL,AND CHOOSING WHO TO NOT PAY IN FULL?

5.Why hasnt AVN ONLINE mentioned the HUNDREDS of AFFILIATES who will not be paid?

Conclusion and closing:
This planet of ours MAY appear to be a huge place;where one may seek to dissapear and seek refuge somewhere without being discovered. THATS IS JUST AN ILLUSION.

Because this world is so small, and were all so bunched up together, we as humans become very hostile and violent.

Im sure MANY can agree that current times have become very very dangerous.

One can never know who you might bump into here n there, and how they bump into you.

[devilspost]

See Sig.

[maxcarter101]

Kthnxbye.

[JFK]

Drama this early in the year ?

[FunkyDog]

Sig below

[12clicks]

The so called "unscripted " and "unbiased" article regarding PAYMONDE was a personal slap to hundreds,if not thousand's,IF NOT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of webmasters' faces and to the affiliates who do the grunt work.

You do know who the affiliates webmasters are,don't you?

Its US webmasters and affiliates who keep YOU in business, not the other way around. REMEMBER THAT.

Its US affiliates and webmasters who can make or break a site. REMEMBER THAT.

Any TRUE journalistic publication would of REPORTED THE STORY AS IS.

To quote YOUR publications editorial word for word:
"
Although an official statement by the company had yet to be made, Cohen said he had placed an announcement on the site?s back-end and personally contacted several clients to let them know the news. At press time, the site was inactive. ?I feel [terrible] about it,? he bemoaned. ?We worked hard. We were always out there on the forefront, and we really cared about our webmasters. " END OF QUOTE.

"Cohen told AVNOnline.com that he sees Paymonde?s implosion as a cautionary tale. " END OF QUOTE.

1. Does your editorial writer or AVN ONLINE know the difference between an official and unofficial statement?

Paymonde's C.O.O ALLOWED AVN ONLINE to INTERVIEW him knowing all information he disclosed would be disseminated PUBLICALLY.
Thats not an " official " statement?

2. " At press time the site was inactive" ????
"Cohen told AVNOnline.com that he sees ....." ???

Im guessing im a fucking moron thinking that a PRESS CONFERENCE,or quoting a statement made directly to a news publication means its an OFFICAL INTERVIEW.

Thanks AVN ONLINE for educating me, teaching me that a PRESS conference and DIRECT QUOTES from a PRESS CONFERENCE isnt an OFFICIAL press meeting.

3. Why didn't AVN ONLINE question and report UNBIASLY his UNPROFESSIONAL/ILLEGAL decision on how he chose to contact HIS CLIENTS that THEIR FUNDS are BEING HELD?

4. Why hasnt AVN ONLINE published a follow up story regarding the ILLEGAL and UNPROFESSIONAL manner in which Paymonde has been conducting itself within the PUBLIC ARENA in specifically choosing who to pay and not who to pay, and who TO PAY IN FULL,AND CHOOSING WHO TO NOT PAY IN FULL?

5.Why hasnt AVN ONLINE mentioned the HUNDREDS of AFFILIATES who will not be paid?

Conclusion and closing:
This planet of ours MAY appear to be a huge place;where one may seek to dissapear and seek refuge somewhere without being discovered. THATS IS JUST AN ILLUSION.

Because this world is so small, and were all so bunched up together, we as humans become very hostile and violent.

Im sure MANY can agree that current times have become very very dangerous.

One can never know who you might bump into here n there, and how they bump into you.

what an idiot rant. I mean really. who you going to bump into, chump? Someone from AVN because they didn't do the job *you* thought they should do? why don't you REALLY throw a hissy fit and cancel your subscription?

[ToplistBlog_Com]

What a Fabulous One and a get a arab Sex... how man.....

[who]

They use Top Brand #1 Super Quality binding glue from taiwan though.

[Arab_Sex]

what an idiot rant. I mean really. who you going to bump into, chump? Someone from AVN because they didn't do the job *you* thought they should do? why don't you REALLY throw a hissy fit and cancel your subscription?

Dont be upset that I highlighted a VALID issue.
Why would you get upset for someone pointing out a valid issue?

"An idiot rant?"
Nothing idiotic about it, nor is it a rant.
Its a clear valid point to argue/debate.

"who you going to bump into, chump? Someone from AVN because they didn't do the job *you* thought they should do?"

I watch carefully where I walk, Do you know the amount of germs that transfer from one to another just from a bump?


"The * job * I thought they should do?"

No my friend, Its not the job " I thought they should do "
Its BASIC journalism 101 THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE.

A "so called " unbiased media source should NOT try to use its influence/public presence to mask a criminal/and or crime.

DOING SO SHOWS A CLEAR LINK OF CORRUPTION, Thus seriously questioning the integrity of the entire publication.

And thats just my opinion just as you voiced yours .thumbsup

[Joesho]

sigh......

so what you are trying to say is you think that AVN is covering up for paymonde who purposely tried to steal and fuck over webmasters? is that your position?

damn dude take a step back and start over somebody gave you the wrong map.

[Arab_Sex]

sigh......

so what you are trying to say is you think that AVN is covering up for paymonde who purposely tried to steal and fuck over webmasters? is that your position?

damn dude take a step back and start over somebody gave you the wrong map.

I feel so honored and privileged that a post virgin such as myself has brought out wanna be big dogs who's post's rank's are in the meager 12k count.

As far a posting on www.GoFuckYourSelf.com, your doing an awesome job buddie keep up the good work...But as far as SPINNING my post to either discredit it or make it seem baseless,YOU NEED MORE WORK.

Stop getting your spin tactics from CNN and FOX news, their gimmicks dont work no more.

Leave this post to the REAL POST WHALES and go back to suckeling milk from your mommies right breast.

once again:


The so called "unscripted " and "unbiased" article regarding PAYMONDE was a personal slap to hundreds,if not thousand's,IF NOT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of webmasters' faces and to the affiliates who do the grunt work.

You do know who the affiliates webmasters are,don't you?

Its US webmasters and affiliates who keep YOU in business, not the other way around. REMEMBER THAT.

Its US affiliates and webmasters who can make or break a site. REMEMBER THAT.

Any TRUE journalistic publication would of REPORTED THE STORY AS IS.

To quote YOUR publications editorial word for word:
"
Although an official statement by the company had yet to be made, Cohen said he had placed an announcement on the site?s back-end and personally contacted several clients to let them know the news. At press time, the site was inactive. ?I feel [terrible] about it,? he bemoaned. ?We worked hard. We were always out there on the forefront, and we really cared about our webmasters. " END OF QUOTE.

"Cohen told AVNOnline.com that he sees Paymonde?s implosion as a cautionary tale. " END OF QUOTE.

1. Does your editorial writer or AVN ONLINE know the difference between an official and unofficial statement?

Paymonde's C.O.O ALLOWED AVN ONLINE to INTERVIEW him knowing all information he disclosed would be disseminated PUBLICALLY.
Thats not an " official " statement?

2. " At press time the site was inactive" ????
"Cohen told AVNOnline.com that he sees ....." ???

Im guessing im a fucking moron thinking that a PRESS CONFERENCE,or quoting a statement made directly to a news publication means its an OFFICAL INTERVIEW.

Thanks AVN ONLINE for educating me, teaching me that a PRESS conference and DIRECT QUOTES from a PRESS CONFERENCE isnt an OFFICIAL press meeting.

3. Why didn't AVN ONLINE question and report UNBIASLY his UNPROFESSIONAL/ILLEGAL decision on how he chose to contact HIS CLIENTS that THEIR FUNDS are BEING HELD?

4. Why hasnt AVN ONLINE published a follow up story regarding the ILLEGAL and UNPROFESSIONAL manner in which Paymonde has been conducting itself within the PUBLIC ARENA in specifically choosing who to pay and not who to pay, and who TO PAY IN FULL,AND CHOOSING WHO TO NOT PAY IN FULL?

5.Why hasnt AVN ONLINE mentioned the HUNDREDS of AFFILIATES who will not be paid?

[samo]

What Arab Sex is trying to say is that while paymonde fucked us all, none of the fucking board owners did shit. We the fucking webmasters are the ones who help those boards rack in the money, yet while they know the truth about paymonde, they chose to do and say nothing! AVN should have followed up, so should have xbiz and gfy. Why wont they follow up on this story? Is Cohen paying them to stay quiet? Makes you wonder

[TheLegacy]

like saddam, someone has a serious hang over from the weekend

[JFK]

like saddam, someone is seriously hung over from the weekend

GROAN

[ForteCash]

I'm in the February issue

[Pleasurepays]

the bar for ignorance and stupidity is already being lowered to the ground, very early in the new year.

should be an entertaining year this year!

[Radiate]

I'm in the February issue

congratulations

[Mediachick]

I'm in the February issue

I know! under the title "my wife is a doctor and will be making 400K a year!"





(sorry I had to...)

[jmk]

Happy new year!

[Barefootsies]

Howard Cohen Must Check In..

[CaptainHowdy]

!!

[JD]

like saddam, someone has a serious hang over from the weekend

wow...

[DWB]

People really read AVN Online?

Didn't know that.

[Arab_Sex]

So far, not one VALID RESPONSE to the start up thread.
AvnOnline has the time to SPAM the board, but not answer serious NEWS WORTHY inquiries.

Then you have the other fools commenting on how ignorant and " full of stupidity" this thread is.

If your referring to MY POST as being " full of ignorance and stupidity" , its YOU who have shown every single person who has read this thread your level of intelligence.

A post containing VAILD ARGUMENTS isnt stupid,nor is it full of ignorance.

AvnOnline has contridicted itself when it released the paymode article.
I REFERRED BACK TO THEIR OWN PUBLISHED ARTICLE. It was THEIR OWN WORDS I USED, and i didnt spin them either.

Why are you "hiding" AVNONLINE? You have time to spam this and other webmaster boards with bullshit "press releases" but you seem to be "shying away" from responding to this thread.

Could it be that AVNONLINE is EMBARRASSED for being exposed as a RAGTAG publication ,having meager reporters whos level of intelligence are that of a 13year old journalist studant...

OR

Could it be that AVNONLINE failed to see prior that by running that paymonde article,They actually EXPOSED THEMSELVES ,proving without a shadow of a doubt that PAYMONDE and AVNONLINE have a more " personal" connection,AND they both had/have a working relationship to continue to defraud thousands of webmasters and the affiliates .

[BoyAlley]

I know! under the title "my wife is a doctor and will be making 400K a year!"

(sorry I had to...)

[TheLegacy]

So far, not one VALID RESPONSE to the start up thread.
AvnOnline has the time to SPAM the board, but not answer serious NEWS WORTHY inquiries.

Then you have the other fools commenting on how ignorant and " full of stupidity" this thread is.

If your referring to MY POST as being " full of ignorance and stupidity" , its YOU who have shown every single person who has read this thread your level of intelligence.

A post containing VAILD ARGUMENTS isnt stupid,nor is it full of ignorance.

AvnOnline has contridicted itself when it released the paymode article.
I REFERRED BACK TO THEIR OWN PUBLISHED ARTICLE. It was THEIR OWN WORDS I USED, and i didnt spin them either.

Why are you "hiding" AVNONLINE? You have time to spam this and other webmaster boards with bullshit "press releases" but you seem to be "shying away" from responding to this thread.

Could it be that AVNONLINE is EMBARRASSED for being exposed as a RAGTAG publication ,having meager reporters whos level of intelligence are that of a 13year old journalist studant...

OR

Could it be that AVNONLINE failed to see prior that by running that paymonde article,They actually EXPOSED THEMSELVES ,proving without a shadow of a doubt that PAYMONDE and AVNONLINE have a more " personal" connection,AND they both had/have a working relationship to continue to defraud thousands of webmasters and the affiliates .

perspective is everyone - to a worm, digging a hole is more relaxing than going fishing.

we do not have to respond to anything you say because we know from experience that this is merely your take on the situation, YOUR perspective on what has happened - 12clicks said it for us all when he wrote, "what an idiot rant. I mean really. who you going to bump into, chump? Someone from AVN because they didn't do the job *you* thought they should do? why don't you REALLY throw a hissy fit and cancel your subscription?"

Why is it AVN's responsibility to report the news the way YOU want it done? and furthermore - why does anyone have to explain anything to you? No one is getting paid under the table - remember this is GFY - we know drama and conspiracy theories enough to know when someone (even a nobody) is attempting to create one where one doesn't exist.

If you truly feel that a wrong has been committed, slandering AVN is not the answer - get a lawyer and tackle it straight on like professionals do - instead of acting like a underage kid who only has 2 hours a day on dial-up to respond to their own rants.

[Arab_Sex]

oh my! someone is angry! And hes :
Robert J. Warren
Director of Sales and Marketing

WOW! I FINALLY HAVE A " BIG FISH " RESPONDING!!.

to quote you:
"we do not have to respond to anything you say because we know from experience that this is merely your take on the situation..."

Since you used the term "WE" when responding, your clearly stating that YOUR speaking on behalf of AVNONLINE.

No my friend, this isnt JUST MY TAKE on the situation, there are HUNDREDS OF OTHERS who share the same exact views as I do,ONLY I HAVE THE BALLS to share them publically.

Since your speaking on behalf of AVNONLINE,then why dont YOU stop ranting and answer the valid questions at hand.
Im not slandering anyone .

Calling AVNONLINE a 2bit ragtag media publication is MY OWN opinion.
And you proved that to me with your OWN ARTICLE.

Dont be upset at me that your own writer allowed me to highlight just how much of journaliatic experience YOUR writer has...And dont be upset at me for highlighting the low grade managment AVNONLINE has running it's operations.
Maybe your upset that YOUR the fool who approved that editorial to run public and that its coming back to bite you in your ass.

As far as me saying "One can never know who you might bump into here n there, and how they bump into you" you and the other fool took it to mean that I myself was threatening someone from AVNONLINE WITH violence or physical harm,AND THAT IS CLEARLY NOT THE CASE. That particular statement basically ment: KARMA IS A BITCH. DO DIRT, YOU GET DIRT.

ONLY A PERSON WHO KNOWS THEY DID DIRTY would take those words to that kind of meaning.

FURTHER MORE, I USED YOUR OWN editiorial's WORDS in its entirety, and added my own opinions to them.

ITS IT YOU WHO IS RANTING Mr Robert J. Warren
Director of Sales and Marketing.

Stop ranting, and answer the VALID ARGUMENT.

[12clicks]

So far, not one VALID RESPONSE to the start up thread.

and you this clue just passes you by.

[Arab_Sex]

Why is it AVN's responsibility to report the news the way YOU want it done? and furthermore - why does anyone have to explain anything to you? No one is getting paid under the table - remember this is GFY - we know drama and conspiracy theories enough to know when someone (even a nobody) is attempting to create one where one doesn't exist.

If you truly feel that a wrong has been committed, slandering AVN is not the answer - get a lawyer and tackle it straight on like professionals do - instead of acting like a underage kid who only has 2 hours a day on dial-up to respond to their own rants.

1. " why is it AVNONLINES RESPONSIBILITY TO REPORT THE NEWS THE WAY YOU WANT IT TO BE REPORTED'

2. " why does anyone have to explain anything to you?"

3."we know drama and conspiracy theories enough to know when someone (even a nobody) is attempting to create one where one doesn't exist"

---------------------------------------------------------------
FIRST: Stop spinning the bullshit " we dont have to report news the way you want it reported" crap. THAT TACTIC HAS BEEN DISCREDITED LONG AGO,your the " director of marketing" you should know these things.

So your basically saying that I am a no body.How do you know I AM A NO BODY? Who are you to judge people into a "somebody or NOBODY" CLASS?

So because i havent been invited to some hotel room where some cheap porn model performed sexual favors on me..Im a No Body?

This nobody is just 1 of thousand's of "NO BODYS" WHO PUT MONEY IN YOUR POCKET,and in the pockets of the sponsors who advertise on your publication. Remember that .

YOU DO HAVE TO ANSWER TO ME, and thousands of other " NO BODY'S" LIKE ME since the articles you write,publish and distribute ARE TO ME and to the other " NO BODY'S".



Their is no conspiracy theory here my friend, only logic.

Either admit you fucked up when you ran the article, ( a true and respectable person/business entity will always admit their faults) or COME CLEAN.

Once again, you have SHOWN CLEARLY to me, and others who may share my views ; just how credible your publication is.

STOP RANTING.
Stop throwing childish insults around and tend to the matter at hand Mr Director Of Marketing.

* thought to myself**
""I think this director of marketing is going to have to suck some serious cock to keep his job""

[Pleasurepays]

[TheLegacy]

1. " why is it AVNONLINES RESPONSIBILITY TO REPORT THE NEWS THE WAY YOU WANT IT TO BE REPORTED'

2. " why does anyone have to explain anything to you?"

3."we know drama and conspiracy theories enough to know when someone (even a nobody) is attempting to create one where one doesn't exist"

---------------------------------------------------------------
FIRST: Stop spinning the bullshit " we dont have to report news the way you want it reported" crap. THAT TACTIC HAS BEEN DISCREDITED LONG AGO,your the " director of marketing" you should know these things.

So your basically saying that I am a no body.How do you know I AM A NO BODY? Who are you to judge people into a "somebody or NOBODY" CLASS?

So because i havent been invited to some hotel room where some cheap porn model performed sexual favors on me..Im a No Body?

This nobody is just 1 of thousand's of "NO BODYS" WHO PUT MONEY IN YOUR POCKET,and in the pockets of the sponsors who advertise on your publication. Remember that .

YOU DO HAVE TO ANSWER TO ME, and thousands of other " NO BODY'S" LIKE ME since the articles you write,publish and distribute ARE TO ME and to the other " NO BODY'S".



Their is no conspiracy theory here my friend, only logic.

Either admit you fucked up when you ran the article, ( a true and respectable person/business entity will always admit their faults) or COME CLEAN.

Once again, you have SHOWN CLEARLY to me, and others who may share my views ; just how credible your publication is.

STOP RANTING.
Stop throwing childish insults around and tend to the matter at hand Mr Director Of Marketing.

* thought to myself**
""I think this director of marketing is going to have to suck some serious cock to keep his job""

why you are a nobody is not because you have a low post count but that you are not into having a serious discussion - you only wish to have answers your way. You continually repeat everything over and over again making AVN responsible for reporting - well - get over it - too bad. Why are they being held? simply because you didn't like the way they chose to present things?

I am not part of AVN, nor am being paid by them to post. I have been working in this industry well over 10 years and do not need to suck anyones cock for anything, including keeping any job. You are not the determining factor on my stay in the industry - so stop attempting to make yourself more important than you really are.

You still have no answered my comment, why havent you gotten a lawyer and faced these guys directly instead of creating drama? Why also must AVN write articles the way you wish them too? You still havent answer that? AVN had the choice I am sure to confront these guys on that matter, but someone chose not too. It was a business decision pure and simple, nothing of strategy. If your pissed off at the company, fine. But you are only showing how childish you are by continually ranting and slandering AVN.

I am done with this thread since you have no intensions of having a serious debate - anyone stating anything against you - you threaten or make useless comments about attempting to divert from the real problem, and that is that 'you and not avn are the real problem here'.

[JFK]

Too Cute

[BigCashCrew]

Is AVN the magazine that was sending gay issues w/o a cover on it? I remember that shit storm.

[Arab_Sex]

You must be the ABSOLUTE WORST director of marketing I have ever came across in my entire life.

DO YOU KNOW HOW TO READ?

Why post " WE DO NOT HAVE TO...."When your not speaking on their behalf?

This thread is addressed specifically to AVNONLINE.

Leave this thread to people who can read my friend.
And If I may?
go take a partime class to brush up on your reading skills.

[Pleasurepays]

You must be the ABSOLUTE WORST director of marketing I have ever came across in my entire life.

DO YOU KNOW HOW TO READ?

Why post " WE DO NOT HAVE TO...."When your not speaking on their behalf?

This thread is addressed specifically to AVNONLINE.

Leave this thread to people who can read my friend.
And If I may?
go take a partime class to brush up on your reading skills.

[12clicks]

This thread is addressed specifically to AVNONLINE.

perhaps an email would have been more specifically addressed.

[Barefootsies]

perhaps an email would have been more specifically addressed.

[samo]

What happened to the fucking paymonde issue? Why are we locking horns when we should be looking for Howard to kick him in the balls? Bastard still got my money. Anyone got paid in the last 2 or 3 weeks?

FUCK YOU PAYMONDE

[tony286]

your expecting too much AVN is not a true news source its a company that sells lots of ads. You cant be in the selling lots of ads business and practice cutting reporting.

[Barefootsies]

What happened to the fucking paymonde issue? Why are we locking horns when we should be looking for Howard to kick him in the balls? Bastard still got my money. Anyone got paid in the last 2 or 3 weeks?

FUCK YOU PAYMONDE

I think people have started to accept the realization there will be NO PAY from the Monde. They stopped answering people's e-mails, and calls a few weeks.. maybe even a month back now.

All of the gleeful people who were claiming to getting paid have stopped, and most of the big fish, those who knew Cohen personally, and those who were within driving distance have been paid.

There will be no more payments. That 6 month lie was just to buy time until the big boys were paid, and for Nort and Howard to leave the country. All money they had left, they are just starting some new venture. There will be no more payments.