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SexPlayAlfa 01-01-2007 08:56 PM

some of you are so fucking stupid its unbelievable!!!

do you really believe when they will clone food it would be identical
to what we have now
lol

nothing is what they say it is, its all about money..
they will clone things that in nature will die .. because they are crap

see .. in nature shit smells .. so other animals don't eat it.. but our food industry .. process animal shit .. remove the smell and feed it back to your cows and chicks.

they even feed other dead animals to cows and non carnivore mammals.

so if that's how they abused the system until now .. do you think less labeling is a good idea

in the end i don't give a rats ass about you idiots because .. i eat only organic meat.


only for the fact that i know where $$ is the only important factor .. zango is a good idea, for the owners of zango.. and cows that make huge amounts of milk are good for the milk industry and cows that have huge hind is excellent for the meat market

but not necessarily good for my health or yours.

so if you want to be ignorant about life .. good for you but don't be stupid and at least give your future a chance

pr0 01-01-2007 09:16 PM

first step, we don't care if animals are cloned.....why not use the same genetic code of a perfect meat producing animal?

next we won't care when humans are cloned, so long as we get our livers & extend life by 30 years

next we'll realize we can edit out all the bad diseases & cancer, so why not have our children born without them?

then we'll realize human emotions aren't logical & therefor unneeded, eventually we'll have them edited out of our newborns....perfect logical humans

in the end what are we left with?

total truth, we're walking genetic CODE, nothing more than organic computers, with no purpose, no soul, & no future......since when we conquer age, we'll realize eventually the universe will cease to exist.....so whats the point?

go watch Gattica & The Matrix people.....its not about giving a shit about food, its about opening pandora's box we can't close

welcome to the new user-friendly, much longer battery life, yet pointless world : )

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notabook 01-01-2007 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 11634565)
first step, we don't care if animals are cloned.....why not use the same genetic code of a perfect meat producing animal?

next we won't care when humans are cloned, so long as we get our livers & extend life by 30 years

next we'll realize we can edit out all the bad diseases & cancer, so why not have our children born without them?

then we'll realize human emotions aren't logical & therefor unneeded, eventually we'll have them edited out of our newborns....perfect logical humans

in the end what are we left with?

total truth, we're walking genetic CODE, nothing more than organic computers, with no purpose, no soul, & no future......since when we conquer age, we'll realize eventually the universe will cease to exist.....so whats the point?

go watch Gattica & The Matrix people.....its not about giving a shit about food, its about opening pandora's box we can't close

welcome to the new user-friendly, much longer battery life, yet pointless world : )


I for one am very much pro-cloning and see nothing wrong with it. It?s not as if they will be growing crops of humans and butchering them for their organs; instead they will take your cells and clone the organs themselves. We?re a LONG, LONG way off from being able to do this but I firmly believe that the only way to get there is by starting small, such as with cloning animals for human consumption.

This issue is about progress. It?s about bettering mankind. It?s about improving ourselves through science and technology. Should we stop all medical science right now? Because if we do as you suggest we should stop with any technology that has the potential to be used for ?evil?? well guess what? Nearly EVERY technology comes with that risk.

Nuclear power is great if handled responsibly and it is relatively a clean source of power when compared to coal and oil. Yet that same power when wielded as a weapon can lead to countless lives being lost. Should we stop researching Nuclear power just because it has the potential to take lives?


Nanotechnology coupled with advanced robotics will eventually one day allow for small nanobots that will have the ability to repair our body from the inside, rather than having to have dangerous invasive surgery (that many times can lead to death just from infection of them having to cut you open).

BUT WAIT!

What if someone hijacks this technology and turns the nanobots into ultra killers that can?t be stopped :-O My bad, let?s not pursue nanotechnology and let thousands of people needlessly die. It?s for the greater good and all.


Half of what you mentioned is an awesome thing ? to be able to extend our natural lifespan even further than medical science has allowed for now and to allow our children to have a life free of such devastating diseases such as cancer. As to why you think we would want to remove our emotions (we?re not Vulcans LOL) I have no idea. But if we have the chance in our lifetime to eliminate cancer? you don?t think we should do it?

minusonebit 01-02-2007 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by notabook (Post 11635173)
This issue is about progress. It?s about bettering mankind. It?s about improving ourselves through science and technology. Should we stop all medical science right now? Because if we do as you suggest we should stop with any technology that has the potential to be used for ?evil?? well guess what? Nearly EVERY technology comes with that risk.

I'm not talking about stopping science. I am talking about putting a label on fake food so people can tell the difference between real and fake. Why are you always so goddamn dense?

bellskids 01-02-2007 09:22 AM

I just dont think its a good idea to be tampering with the makeup of our food sources. There could be implications from eating something constantly that is identical to what you have had before, maybe like an impact on our immune systems since everything we eat contains only bacteria of a certain type etc. In years to come would we have reduced the gene pool of cattle to just a few prime specimens? I dont think that is a good idea at all.

Do these concerns make sense? I just think that we need to be very careful when it comes to tampering with nature. Im all for stem cell research etc so dont shout me down but in this case everyone of us in years to come would end up eating this cloned stuff we need to be sure of its effects on future generations to come.

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notabook 01-02-2007 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bellskids (Post 11637767)
I just dont think its a good idea to be tampering with the makeup of our food sources. There could be implications from eating something constantly that is identical to what you have had before, maybe like an impact on our immune systems since everything we eat contains only bacteria of a certain type etc. In years to come would we have reduced the gene pool of cattle to just a few prime specimens? I dont think that is a good idea at all.

Very unfounded concerns. Many of the vegetables and fruits that you eat are essentially clones, they have been for years. We've seen no worse-for-wear there and to assume that you would see different results in cloned meat is silly.

Peaches 01-02-2007 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11633572)
I hope all the clone haters do realize that cloned vegetables have been around and eaten for countless years now right.

Maybe they need some labels too huh?

Fruits too :)

I wonder how many people ever LOOK at labels? Think you're getting a great deal on chicken or meat? Take a look at the label and there's probably a percentage of water in it. Maybe even water with FLUORIDE IN IT!!! :helpme :helpme :helpme

Peaches 01-02-2007 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 11637697)
I'm not talking about stopping science. I am talking about putting a label on fake food so people can tell the difference between real and fake. Why are you always so goddamn dense?

I agree. I think kids conceived In Vitro should wear a "Fake" label on their forehead.

Trax 01-02-2007 05:24 PM

i love such discussions on gfy

notabook 01-02-2007 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 11640848)
I agree. I think kids conceived In Vitro should wear a "Fake" label on their forehead.

I agree! Those damn bastards need to be outed ASAP. Damn vitro kids piss me off :mad:

BigCashCrew 01-02-2007 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 11637697)
I'm not talking about stopping science. I am talking about putting a label on fake food so people can tell the difference between real and fake. Why are you always so goddamn dense?

To be honest with you, who gives a shit?

baddog 01-02-2007 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 11633328)
I heard that this just missed making it in to the Bill of Rights, because they ran out of ink.

:2 cents:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I knew there was a reason I couldn't find it in the Constitution.

Did you know seatbelts were medical devices?

Webby 01-02-2007 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 11637697)
I'm not talking about stopping science. I am talking about putting a label on fake food so people can tell the difference between real and fake. Why are you always so goddamn dense?

Same principle applies to GM produce - by 2000 66 ish percent of all US processed food contained GM ingredients - and no labelling. Around 25% of US agricultural land is now devoted to GM crop.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of other nations have banned/restricted/required labelling. This area is not problem-free, but carries risk, some of which are unknown. One example is of excellent insect-free crop for a few years then a total fuckup with "superweeds" which take on the genes of the produce and then require far more lethal herbicides to kill off.

Totally agree - if anyone wants fake food it should be labelled fake food and priced appropriately.

baddog 01-02-2007 05:34 PM

Can I get a cloned leather interior on my next car?

minusonebit 01-02-2007 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11640951)
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I knew there was a reason I couldn't find it in the Constitution.

Did you know seatbelts were medical devices?

Why yes, yes I did.

crockett 01-02-2007 05:57 PM

Attack of the cloned cows...

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