What's Saddam's death gonna accomplish?

[pradaboy]

Pretty much nothing. I mean why is everyone so happy, he's getting out easy. He murdered and tortured thousands and all he gets is the rope?

Call me crazy but I'm not seeing any justice in that.

[stickyfingerz]

1 word "closure"

[Shaze]

Originally Posted by pradaboy

Pretty much nothing. I mean why is everyone so happy, he's getting out easy. He murdered and tortured thousands and all he gets is the rope?

Call me crazy but I'm not seeing any justice in that.

i don't see the justice in killing someone because he killed either. it would be better if he did community service for the rest of his life, or something to make the world a better place.

[Mr Pheer]

it will accomplish the end of 'saddam being executed in X amount of hours' threads

[nba4life2k]

It will accomplish justice for the thousands he killed and it would be too much work to supervise him to make sure he doesnt escape. In about 2 hours he will be able to answer the question of is there life after death.

[Dagwolf]

It will make him smell bad.

[scottybuzz]

in terms of solving things in iraq, it will maybe stop people trying to bring him back to power. for example in old england when queens or kings had challenges to the throne they would 99% often kill the challlenger to make sure his supporters never tried again.

this should hopefully stop fighting and the fact that saddam will never be in power.

on the other hand it could backfire and fighting could erupt even worse of him being a martyr etc.


anyway a big pile of worms. that middle east will never have peace. period.

[Rochard]

I don't believe in killing him; I think it lets him off easy. Instead I think we should put him in a cold dark damp cell, feed him nothing but bread and water, and allow him to rot in darkness for the next forty years.

[collegeboobies]

It wont accomplish anything, its an outrage, what if some country came in the US and takes our president and hangs him because of a military conflict where people are killed.... and with a completely unfair trial its obvious, due to half the people being thrown out and judges basically ignoring anything defense says or does.

[madawgz]

he did too many fucked up things...this must be done

[nba4life2k]

I cant imagine what some iraqis went through because of him. He kept them in underground cells and tortured them. The same thing should happen to him but dying sucks too so good riddance.

[notabook]

It will turn him into a martyr for many in the middle east, regardless of what he did or did not do in life. It will help to further solidify the current state of disarray in Iraq, creating a stable (funny) atmosphere of instability.

[Agent 488]

it will bring peace in the middle east.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by pradaboy

Pretty much nothing. I mean why is everyone so happy, he's getting out easy. He murdered and tortured thousands and all he gets is the rope?

Call me crazy but I'm not seeing any justice in that.

Doubt there is any accomplishment PB.

Chances are after his execution there will be an increase in killings in Iraq and most of these victims will be innocent people - killed in response to Saddam's execution.

Sure, there is an arguement that it may be some closure for the families of his victims - but that is not usually the case in reality.

Only my - Hussein should never have been tried in Iraq, but thru international courts and all alleged offenses tried in these courts and with full witness testimony permitted. The charade of a courtroom in Iraq did not allow victims their say, nor did it reach any level of justice. It's basically "justice Florida style" dumped on Iraq and stage-managed by US govt agents and contractors - a farce. Little doubt Saddam would have been found guilty of some offenses in international courts and the penalty would not attract a death sentence. Again - there is something "just" about that. If guilty, it would be relevent he spend the rest of his life in a jail cell with no chance of release.

PS Saddam is not the only "perp" who needs to stand trial in the ICC - a few other hypocritical leaders need to join him

[DWB]

It boldly tells the world... umm... that we are fighting terror there so we don't have to fight it here... or something like that, or stay the course... I think.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by nba4life2k

I cant imagine what some iraqis went through because of him. He kept them in underground cells and tortured them.

You mean like the USA did with the prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison, or the various other prison camps around the world where we are holding and torturing people without reason or without charge?

And that's just what we know about. Imagine what's really going on...

[TSGlider]

Many Iraqis will celebrate.
Many Americans will celebrate.
Many Europeans will celebrate.
Many Middle-Easterners will celebrate.
Bin Ladin, he too, will celebrate.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

You mean like the USA did with the prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison, or the various other prison camps around the world where we are holding and torturing people without reason or without charge?

And that's just what we know about. Imagine what's really going on...

There are no clean hands anywhere DWB

[EXPORT]

not many things i think

[Invest]

Kill 2,740 Americans and America will take over 2 countries and kill over 100,000+ people by the time this is all over with. Now I ask you can you really be that stupid to fuck with America?

[biftek]

i don't think the killing of him will accomplish any settlement in iraq apart from closure to the families , but the war will still go on , you have all the factions fighting control for turf if anything that is one thing that saddam had under control the groups knew the punishment if they tried anything

[biftek]

Originally Posted by Invest

Kill 2,740 Americans and America will take over 2 countries and kill over 100,000+ people by the time this is all over with. Now I ask you can you really be that stupid to fuck with America?

ah see but that's the thing , saddam did fuck all to america , it was bin laden the one that sent the planes crashing killing the 2,740 , it was at that stage that bush had a good excuse to leech the oil from iraq under the excuse that saddam was involved in the terrorist act too

then when the excuse of the terrorist actions didn't work , he pushed the whole wmd thing , but yet to do this day no wmds have been found

[Webby]

Originally Posted by Invest

Kill 2,740 Americans and America will take over 2 countries and kill over 100,000+ people by the time this is all over with. Now I ask you can you really be that stupid to fuck with America?

Saddam fucked with "America"? Never noticed - did he fuck with other countries as well? Brazil? Sweden? Spain? China?

"America" elected to invade Iraq based on lies. This was a choice freely taken. Sure, there are more innocent people killed in Iraq than US troops. That is not an achievement - more a total fucking disaster all round. There are penalties for such stupid conduct - time will show the real cost of US intervention and no doubts it will be more than 2470 US troops. You reap the seed you sow - sometimes folks are slow learners. This is not the first time.

[jeffrey]

Originally Posted by collegeboobies

It wont accomplish anything, its an outrage, what if some country came in the US and takes our president and hangs him because of a military conflict where people are killed.... and with a completely unfair trial its obvious, due to half the people being thrown out and judges basically ignoring anything defense says or does.

Are you a Hussein follower?

Originally Posted by Invest

Kill 2,740 Americans and America will take over 2 countries and kill over 100,000+ people by the time this is all over with. Now I ask you can you really be that stupid to fuck with America?

Canada should burn the whitehouse down one more time, just for old times sake, lol

[tony286]

read : https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/691086-rush-hang-saddam-hussein.html

[starpimps]

they shoulda tortured him to death

eyes for an eye

[VeriSexy]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

1 word "closure"

pretty much it

[Invest]

Originally Posted by biftek

ah see but that's the thing , saddam did fuck all to america , it was bin laden the one that sent the planes crashing killing the 2,740 , it was at that stage that bush had a good excuse to leech the oil from iraq under the excuse that saddam was involved in the terrorist act too

then when the excuse of the terrorist actions didn't work , he pushed the whole wmd thing , but yet to do this day no wmds have been found

That's because he gave them to iran under the radar.

[Invest]

Originally Posted by jeffrey

Are you a Hussein follower?





Canada should burn the whitehouse down one more time, just for old times sake, lol

Now that is funny

[Webby]

Originally Posted by tony404

read : https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/691086-rush-hang-saddam-hussein.html

Good post Tony - and more than valid

The Rush to Hang Saddam Hussein

The important question was never really about whether Saddam Hussein was guilty of crimes against humanity. The public record is bulging with the lengthy litany of his vile and unforgivable atrocities: genocidal assaults against the Kurds; aggressive wars against Iran and Kuwait; use of internationally banned weapons like nerve gas; systematic torture of countless thousands of political prisoners.

What really mattered was whether an Iraq freed from his death grip could hold him accountable in a way that nurtured hope for a better future. A carefully conducted, scrupulously fair trial could have helped undo some of the damage inflicted by his rule. It could have set a precedent for the rule of law in a country scarred by decades of arbitrary vindictiveness. It could have fostered a new national unity in an Iraq long manipulated through its religious and ethnic divisions.

It could have, but it didn?t. After a flawed, politicized and divisive trial, Mr. Hussein was handed his sentence: death by hanging. This week, in a cursory 15-minute proceeding, an appeals court upheld that sentence and ordered that it be carried out posthaste. Most Iraqis are now so preoccupied with shielding their families from looming civil war that they seem to have little emotion left to spend on Mr. Hussein or, more important, on their own fading dreams of a new and better Iraq.

What might have been a watershed now seems another lost opportunity. After nearly four years of war and thousands of American and Iraqi deaths, it is ever harder to be sure whether anything fundamental has changed for the better in Iraq.

This week began with a story of British and Iraqi soldiers storming a police station that hid a secret dungeon in Basra. More than 100 men, many of them viciously tortured, were rescued from almost certain execution. It might have been a story from the final days of Baathist rule in March 2003, when British and American troops entered Basra believing they were liberating the subjugated Shiite south. But it was December 2006, and the wretched men being liberated were prisoners of the new Iraqi Shiite authorities.

Toppling Saddam Hussein did not automatically create a new and better Iraq. Executing him won?t either.

[Invest]

Originally Posted by pornopete

Exactly. And now there is some little 10 year old kid in the streets of Iraq who saw his father get killed by an american soldier or a car bomb or whatever who will grow up with a hatred of the US in a neighbourhood where 50 other kids are going through the same thing.... And what do you think this kid will do in 10 years time? I can assure you he won't be going on Jenny Jones or Maury to talk about his feelings towards the US.

biftek you say the US is victorious here because of the body count, but that can't be further than the truth.

What If saddam stayed in power and nuked us. Then What?

[he-fox]

justice for the millions that suffered because of him.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Invest

What If saddam stayed in power and nuked us. Then What?

please choke on a preztel

[Webby]

Originally Posted by Invest

What If saddam stayed in power and nuked us. Then What?

DUH? And why would Hussein be interested in "nuking" the US? What if Iceland wanted to nuke the US - you gonna bomb the shit out of Iceland based on more lies??

There are far more countries much nearer Iraq than the US - that's of course assuming Hussein had any WMD and assuming he had any reason to use them. DUH DUH!

[Webby]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

please choke on a preztel

Ah.. That's shorter and sweeter df!

[After Shock Media]

It will kill the one person that could bring peace and stability back to Iraq.

[directfiesta]

``The execution might bring some amusement and accomplishment to the Bush administration, but it will not help the Iraqi people,'' Siblani said. ``The problem we're facing in Iraq is going to multiply.''

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlates...310950,00.html

So Bush gets what he really wanted at the price of near 3000 US kids dead, 300 billion spending and collateral damage of 200 - 500 000 civilian deaths.


Heck of a job , Georgie

[gornyhuy]

public spectacle!!! BLood! ENTERTAINMENT~!

[Peacemaker]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

in terms of solving things in iraq, it will maybe stop people trying to bring him back to power. for example in old england when queens or kings had challenges to the throne they would 99% often kill the challlenger to make sure his supporters never tried again.

this should hopefully stop fighting and the fact that saddam will never be in power.

on the other hand it could backfire and fighting could erupt even worse of him being a martyr etc.


anyway a big pile of worms. that middle east will never have peace. period.

lol
back to the middle age..

i am sometimes scared to live on this planet, when i dont see any changes in thinking of some people.

hey. we dont live in the middle age, not in "wild west" etc.

killing someone, even the person has done bad things to others like murdererd,
does not make "you" better than the one who is going to be killed.

saddam, btw, should have had have benn on court at den haag in the netherlands.

[he-fox]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

It will kill the one person that could bring peace and stability back to Iraq.

You gotta be kidding, he put his country on a non-stop war since 1980

[nico-t]

Bush will get credit of some small minded sheep in the US who absolutely dont see the big picture of this useless war.

Other then that, thousands of soldiers and civilians died, the US has grown their debt to record heights, a civil war is going on in Iraq, the chaos there will be at it's peak once saddams executed, and......... bin laden, who is accused of being behind 9/11, is still not captured.

Way to go!

[Webby]

Originally Posted by nico-t

Bush will get credit of some small minded sheep in the US who absolutely dont see the big picture of this useless war.

Other then that, thousands of soldiers and civilians died, the US has grown their debt to record heights, a civil war is going on in Iraq, the chaos there will be at it's peak once saddams executed, and......... bin laden, who is accused of being behind 9/11, is still not captured.

Way to go!

More important than any of that - it gives CNN/Fox and the other US channels a feeble attempt at programming and being able to introduce talking heads - and keep emphasizing how the US govt had no hand in any of Iraq's affairs Pass me another towel...

Hell, they even set up remote crews to broadcast some Iraqi's in the US having a party - like that's news? It's best to convey to the sheep that all Iraqi's are overjoyed about Saddam's execution - that's why there will be more killings in Iraq shortly and why US embassies have been warned of possible attacks. It's all about "our values" and "spreading freedom and democracy"

Way to go!

[directfiesta]

also makes IRAN happy ...

[Webby]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

also makes IRAN happy ...

Of course - and should make Osama smile at his prospects

[he-fox]

Saddam was the one who brought hatery between sunni and shia in Irak. He used toxic gas weapons against irakians. He was a disaster for his country, a cruel dictator. Putting him off will end a dark era in the irakian nation history, no matter who profits on a short term or not, who´s fucking political advantage is or not.

[ukxtra]

Originally Posted by Invest
Kill 2,740 Americans and America will take over 2 countries and kill over 100,000+ people by the time this is all over with. Now I ask you can you really be that stupid to fuck with America?"

Originally Posted by Invest
That's because he gave them to iran under the radar."

Looks like Bush's advisors are posting again

[BusterBunny]

it makes for one hell of a 50 spot