anyone here has a Saltwater aquarium ? (BoyAlley? ) - GoFuckYourself.com

polish_aristocrat · 12-29-2006, 04:22 PM

any pics?

how much did you spent on it all?
is there far more maintance to do, compared to a normal aquarium?
any good websites about saltwater aquariums?

just getting a little interested in this subject

seeric · 12-29-2006, 04:24 PM

Roger V is a bigtime tank afficianado

polish_aristocrat · 12-29-2006, 04:24 PM

I'd hit it

Boobs · 12-29-2006, 04:25 PM

i got a 20 gallon tank with saltwater, i only have 4 clownfish and this puffer fish int here right now

as far as mainttenance its the same as any other tanks, you just need to treat your water with salt solution and make sure its nice and warm.

besides the fish, it's really cheap to setup.. goto your local petstore and theyll hook ya up

billywatson · 12-29-2006, 04:27 PM

The coolest fish are often the most difficult to keep.

DO NOT get an octopus.

Monthly maintenance is mandatory. You get a siphen/hose thing and drain 25% of your tank and put in a new batch of salt water.

It's more difficult to keep a salt tank, but they're WAY cooler IMO.

nosey · 12-29-2006, 04:28 PM

i think choker has one2

polish_aristocrat · 12-30-2006, 10:17 AM

thanks for the info everyone

noone has any pics though?

and why shouldn't I get an octopus?

BoyAlley · 12-30-2006, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

why shouldn't I get an octopus?

1. Some species can be hard to get to feed in captivity.
2. They're escape artists, and you'll need a VERY secure lid with ZERO gaps.
3. Many species sold to hobbyists are deadly (aka blue ring)
4. They can be very sensitive to water quality (no shifts in salinity)
5. They'll eat just about everything else in your tank.
6. Even if you keep it 100% healthy, they don't live very long.

BoyAlley · 12-30-2006, 11:02 AM

BoyAlley · 12-30-2006, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Boobs

i got a 20 gallon tank with saltwater, i only have 4 clownfish and this puffer fish int here right now

Wayyyyyy too many fish for a 20 gallon tank. They're destine to die.

BitAudioVideo · 12-30-2006, 11:06 AM

ive had saltwater tanks, evaporation in a really big tank leaves salt residue all over so i went to freshwater. ive grown live coral in salt, you can keep it simple or get really advanced (and spend a lot of money)

sorry have no pics of salt, heres my fresh setup

tiger oscar

female green terror with babies

male green terror after fighting with the jack depseys (protecting his babies)

full tank

BoyAlley · 12-30-2006, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

how much did you spent on it all?
is there far more maintance to do, compared to a normal aquarium?
any good websites about saltwater aquariums?

1. They're BIG TIME money sinks compared to freshwater, especially if you want to keep live corals. I've probably spent 8k and that's way less than a lot of people spend.

2. WAY WAY more maintenance than a freshwater tank. Checking your nitrates, nitrites, salinity, ph, etc. on a regular basis is mandatory. Emptying out your protein skimmer, cleaning out your sump, 2x daily feedings, water changes, etc. etc. etc. all also mandatory.

3. Check out http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/
(please don't bans Teh BoyAlley for linking to another forums)

4. Just so no one thinks I'm coming across negative about reef tanks, they are absolutely amazing and I really do love them. Just make sure you take the time to research before you take the plunge. I hate to see innocent (and sometimes rare) marine life slaughtered by people that don't.

polish_aristocrat · 12-30-2006, 11:49 AM

thanks for the info BoyAlley and for the record, I put you in the thread title, since I once saw that "Saltwater aqariums" are mentioned as your hobby in your GFY profile....

gleem · 12-30-2006, 11:58 AM

I have a 135, here's a couple pics, I love taking pics with the "moonlight LED's" that come on at night, these aren't photochopped at all:

gleem · 12-30-2006, 12:02 PM

oh yeah, for a good saltwater tank you need to blow around 10k which is just for the equipment, no livestock, then you figure about 3k will get ya a good first year batch of corals/fish to get ya started, then depending on the size of your tank and electricity cost, your tank will eat about $70 to $150 worth of electricity a month especially if you are in a warm climate and have to use a chiller. Then toss in about $50 a month for chemicals and water, another$25 for fish food, and then about $300 a year for light bulb changes.

It's a very addictive, very expensive hobby and if you do all the maintenance yourself you can esily spend about 10 hours a week doing all the work. BUT I LOVE WATCHING MY STICKS GROW

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L0stMind · 12-30-2006, 12:06 PM

My tanks are being built right now.

I agree with the boyalley, there is a lot more work to a saltwater tank then there is freshwater, but personally it is worthwhile. There is so much more interesting life in saltwater.

If you don't want to spend a lot of money be prepared to spend a lot of time doing cleanup etc.

If you are willing to spend money on equipment and such you can eliminate some of the workload but it still requires you to look in on the tank often. I usually only run my water quality tests once a month (or less as the tank matures) but I take a peek at the tank several times a day to make sure it's all functioning right...

good luck

PS - Gleem, tank is coming along nice man! Great shots.

gleem · 12-30-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by L0stMind

My tanks are being built right now.

good luck

PS - Gleem, tank is coming along nice man! Great shots.

thanks, just trying to keep the acros alive long enough that I can switch to well water, water here in SE florida is horrible, RO units can't get half the stuff dump in out so any tank has a lifespan of 1 to 2 years tops before a crash. Buddy just installed a well so that should get me over the SE florida hump.

your tankSSSSSSssss?? how many, what sizes?

gleem · 12-30-2006, 01:06 PM

ok last group of shots from today.

best shot of fish I could get now:

my giant orange monti cap on the left, right is orange & neon green digi's:

some zoos close to the glass and easy to take pics of:

some of my monti caps, right is famous "idaho grape" the other is green with purple rim:

my fave softy about 10" across and 8" tall:

my fave "dragon eye" zoos:

under the tank, quite messy, but just some of the equipment (octopuss 32" recirc skimmer)

my RO/DI area and the resevouir top off 10gal tank below:

1/3 hp chiller with built in UV mod:

Miguel T · 12-30-2006, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Very nice!!!

Boobs · 12-30-2006, 01:42 PM

nice setups here

BitAudioVideo · 12-30-2006, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem

under the tank, quite messy, but just some of the equipment (octopuss 32" recirc skimmer)

thanks for reminding me why i went to fresh water =]

ive got a 75gallon wet/dry on my 210 and one 2400gph pump. add a heater and some lights and im done.

if the algae bloom is down when i go to my uncles tonight ill get some pics of the 325gallon saltwater tank, really just for growing coral.

jakethedog · 12-30-2006, 04:49 PM

Damn ... we started a 58 gallon tank a couple months ago .. never cycled it properly .. killed about 300 bucks fish by accident .. felt horrible

we're back on the right track i think .. 0% nitrite and proper PH ... temp and everything .. back to 2 fish as of 2 days ago .. but man .. these tanks sure give us something to work towards .. the ones with live coral and anenomes are amazing .. beautiful .. and WOW talk about filtration ... BAM .. some serious " biological environment" being created there ... nice work .. !!

Fizzgig · 12-30-2006, 07:01 PM

I'd rather just visit the Vancouver aquarium once in a while, It's awesome! Respect to you guys who can keep a saltwater tank though.

jeffrey · 12-30-2006, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BitAudioVideo

ive had saltwater tanks, evaporation in a really big tank leaves salt residue all over so i went to freshwater. ive grown live coral in salt, you can keep it simple or get really advanced (and spend a lot of money)

Salt residue all over... ? all over where.
Salt doesnt evaporate at all, it just doesnt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

1. They're BIG TIME money sinks compared to freshwater, especially if you want to keep live corals. I've probably spent 8k and that's way less than a lot of people spend.

2. WAY WAY more maintenance than a freshwater tank. Checking your nitrates, nitrites, salinity, ph, etc. on a regular basis is mandatory. Emptying out your protein skimmer, cleaning out your sump, 2x daily feedings, water changes, etc. etc. etc. all also mandatory.

3. Check out http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/
(please don't bans Teh BoyAlley for linking to another forums)

4. Just so no one thinks I'm coming across negative about reef tanks, they are absolutely amazing and I really do love them. Just make sure you take the time to research before you take the plunge. I hate to see innocent (and sometimes rare) marine life slaughtered by people that don't.

Well said.
Marine/Coral tanks are a hobby, not a show peice.

I only have a small fresh water right now (40 gallon piller tank), but when I move to a bigger place there will be a large coral tank set up.
I like cleaning and taking care of the fish, its like I am god of a tiny little world.

NemesiS876 · 12-30-2006, 07:33 PM

I like cats

BitAudioVideo · 12-30-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffrey

Salt residue all over... ? all over where.
Salt doesnt evaporate at all, it just doesnt.

let me preface this with the following disclaimer... "im a little drunk" =)

yea it does, it depends on how much water your moving and your environment but i always had salt residue. example... a tall brass lamp placed near the tank after 6 months becomes heavily pitted and corosion starting.

the 325 gallon tank is in a seperate building behind the house (12x18) that has a window unit... after 9 months the ac started acting up, the fins fell apart. the salt ate it up.

there was one pc in that room, 2 intake fans and 2 out fans, the case was caked in a fine layer of salt at both openings and rusting badly when i "parted it out" just before christmas.

the dogs lick the salt off the walls.

i may have had a different salt environment then some... i was growing coral for resale, moving 10,000gph with 1600 watts of light.

gleem · 12-30-2006, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NemesiS876

I like cats

LOL.. me too

gleem · 12-30-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pornopete

20 gallon is too small for saltwater.

well the smaller it is, the harder it is to keep the water at the proper levels, like my 135 gallon is easier to keep running. but I know people with 5 gallon tanks that are pretty sweet, it's a niche within the saltwater tank world called "nano reefs" checkout www.nanoreefs.com, pretty sweet stuff

gleem · 12-31-2006, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BitAudioVideo

let me preface this with the following disclaimer... "im a little drunk" =)

yea it does, it depends on how much water your moving and your environment but i always had salt residue. example... a tall brass lamp placed near the tank after 6 months becomes heavily pitted and corosion starting.

the 325 gallon tank is in a seperate building behind the house (12x18) that has a window unit... after 9 months the ac started acting up, the fins fell apart. the salt ate it up.

there was one pc in that room, 2 intake fans and 2 out fans, the case was caked in a fine layer of salt at both openings and rusting badly when i "parted it out" just before christmas.

the dogs lick the salt off the walls.

i may have had a different salt environment then some... i was growing coral for resale, moving 10,000gph with 1600 watts of light.

yeah, salt does get in the air, but your typical tank doesn't do that, you just get a little "salt creep" here and there, and if you got fans blowing directly on your water in a canopy, you might rot out the canopy.

BV · 12-31-2006, 12:12 AM

We have small one, I put fish and stuff in it I catch. It's a pain in the ass though. I have a huge supply of salt water so we try to replace 25% of the water a week with fresh stuff.

It's not the normal setup by any means and it's pretty much like a galdiator pit in their. Kill or be killed. Alot of work catching the right food for each to eat.

The seahorse we let go because it would only eat very tiny fresh shrimp (and they are a bitch to catch) and to do it every day was too much.

gleem · 12-31-2006, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

The seahorse we let go because it would only eat very tiny fresh shrimp (and they are a bitch to catch) and to do it every day was too much.

yeah, seahorses are tough, basically you have to make em a "feeding trough" and obviously if there are other fish in there they got no chance.

just hope you get your water from deeper out then a beach or a dock, most of the inlet water is crap down here in SE florida.

BV · 12-31-2006, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem

just hope you get your water from deeper out then a beach or a dock, most of the inlet water is crap down here in SE florida.

It's coming from the end of my dock which sticks out in the Indian River 400' and I'm not to far from the inlet.

..... where I caught most of these fish.

It's pretty good stuff.

12-29-2006, 04:22 PM	#1
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	anyone here has a Saltwater aquarium ? (BoyAlley? ) any pics? how much did you spent on it all? is there far more maintance to do, compared to a normal aquarium? any good websites about saltwater aquariums? just getting a little interested in this subject __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

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Boobs Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 7,875	i got a 20 gallon tank with saltwater, i only have 4 clownfish and this puffer fish int here right now as far as mainttenance its the same as any other tanks, you just need to treat your water with salt solution and make sure its nice and warm. besides the fish, it's really cheap to setup.. goto your local petstore and theyll hook ya up __________________ Join the fucking best in big tit sponsors!!!

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polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	thanks for the info everyone noone has any pics though? and why shouldn't I get an octopus? __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

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BitAudioVideo Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: USA, Georgia Posts: 1,246	ive had saltwater tanks, evaporation in a really big tank leaves salt residue all over so i went to freshwater. ive grown live coral in salt, you can keep it simple or get really advanced (and spend a lot of money) sorry have no pics of salt, heres my fresh setup tiger oscar female green terror with babies male green terror after fighting with the jack depseys (protecting his babies) full tank __________________ Hi-Quality Encoding - Bulk Orders - On Time! http://bitaudiovideo.com icq 50476697 - aim n3r0xXx

12-30-2006, 11:49 AM	#13
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	thanks for the info BoyAlley and for the record, I put you in the thread title, since I once saw that "Saltwater aqariums" are mentioned as your hobby in your GFY profile.... __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

12-30-2006, 11:58 AM	#14
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	I have a 135, here's a couple pics, I love taking pics with the "moonlight LED's" that come on at night, these aren't photochopped at all: __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

12-30-2006, 12:02 PM	#15
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	oh yeah, for a good saltwater tank you need to blow around 10k which is just for the equipment, no livestock, then you figure about 3k will get ya a good first year batch of corals/fish to get ya started, then depending on the size of your tank and electricity cost, your tank will eat about $70 to $150 worth of electricity a month especially if you are in a warm climate and have to use a chiller. Then toss in about $50 a month for chemicals and water, another$25 for fish food, and then about $300 a year for light bulb changes. It's a very addictive, very expensive hobby and if you do all the maintenance yourself you can esily spend about 10 hours a week doing all the work. BUT I LOVE WATCHING MY STICKS GROW - __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

12-30-2006, 12:06 PM	#16
L0stMind Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancity Posts: 1,681	My tanks are being built right now. I agree with the boyalley, there is a lot more work to a saltwater tank then there is freshwater, but personally it is worthwhile. There is so much more interesting life in saltwater. If you don't want to spend a lot of money be prepared to spend a lot of time doing cleanup etc. If you are willing to spend money on equipment and such you can eliminate some of the workload but it still requires you to look in on the tank often. I usually only run my water quality tests once a month (or less as the tank matures) but I take a peek at the tank several times a day to make sure it's all functioning right... good luck PS - Gleem, tank is coming along nice man! Great shots. __________________ http://cashcore.com - Make Money. http://ezprovider.net - Hosting.

12-30-2006, 01:06 PM	#18
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	ok last group of shots from today. best shot of fish I could get now: my giant orange monti cap on the left, right is orange & neon green digi's: some zoos close to the glass and easy to take pics of: some of my monti caps, right is famous "idaho grape" the other is green with purple rim: my fave softy about 10" across and 8" tall: my fave "dragon eye" zoos: under the tank, quite messy, but just some of the equipment (octopuss 32" recirc skimmer) my RO/DI area and the resevouir top off 10gal tank below: 1/3 hp chiller with built in UV mod: __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

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Boobs Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 7,875	nice setups here __________________ Join the fucking best in big tit sponsors!!!

12-30-2006, 04:49 PM	#22
jakethedog Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Vancouver B.C. Posts: 2,497	Damn ... we started a 58 gallon tank a couple months ago .. never cycled it properly .. killed about 300 bucks fish by accident .. felt horrible we're back on the right track i think .. 0% nitrite and proper PH ... temp and everything .. back to 2 fish as of 2 days ago .. but man .. these tanks sure give us something to work towards .. the ones with live coral and anenomes are amazing .. beautiful .. and WOW talk about filtration ... BAM .. some serious " biological environment" being created there ... nice work .. !! __________________ No sig .. just me

12-30-2006, 07:01 PM	#23
Fizzgig Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: In Your Dreams Posts: 9,649	I'd rather just visit the Vancouver aquarium once in a while, It's awesome! Respect to you guys who can keep a saltwater tank though. __________________ ---'-,-{@ Sassy Grrrl @}-'-,---

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12-31-2006, 12:12 AM	#30
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	We have small one, I put fish and stuff in it I catch. It's a pain in the ass though. I have a huge supply of salt water so we try to replace 25% of the water a week with fresh stuff. It's not the normal setup by any means and it's pretty much like a galdiator pit in their. Kill or be killed. Alot of work catching the right food for each to eat. The seahorse we let go because it would only eat very tiny fresh shrimp (and they are a bitch to catch) and to do it every day was too much.