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spasmo 12-29-2006 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by beckie (Post 11617412)
Exactly. I'm just pissed that they snuck that one in on me. I would be happy with a partial credit. :(

Contact them right away. I believe there's a pretty tight time limit for disputes now (is it 30 or 60 days...I forget).

As long as you get the first message in there you stop the clock.

UtahSaints 12-29-2006 10:20 PM

good luck.. Just call CC company and say it was stolen ;)

vvq 12-29-2006 10:25 PM

gotta love the ppc game.

SexPlayAlfa 12-29-2006 11:00 PM

ppc is like gambling .. just like gambling the casino always wins in the end :)

X37375787 12-29-2006 11:02 PM

Fuck PPC. I go for the free traffic.

X37375787 12-29-2006 11:08 PM

You cocksucking whiners, don't supervise your own campaigns and then blame the PPC engine for presenting you with a fat bill.

eZe 12-29-2006 11:10 PM

Content network is on by default. There is however, a new feature (within the last year) that allows you to bid differently on it.

Due to how Google's system automatically "optimizes" ad rotations it is possible to be getting traffic then totally have it drop off. Or vice versa, getting no traffic and then have it spike. I have a couple of clients who pay me to manage google traffic it is a total pain in the ass to try to explain this. Makes me look like an ass.

I don't mind the content network traffic but I definately don't pay the same amount for it. I suggest taking your max bid and cutting it in half. This pretty much guarantees you will not get caught paying top dollar for inferior traffic.

beckie 12-29-2006 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Equinox (Post 11618027)
You cocksucking whiners, don't supervise your own campaigns and then blame the PPC engine for presenting you with a fat bill.

Sorry, but when you sign up for a campaign years ago when there was no such thing as Content Network and then they opt you in without telling you - you would be pissed too.

X37375787 12-29-2006 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by beckie (Post 11618169)
Sorry, but when you sign up for a campaign years ago when there was no such thing as Content Network and then they opt you in without telling you - you would be pissed too.

Whenever there is money being spent without you having to actually spend it yourself, it's a really good idea to keep track of what's happening - constantly. There's no excuse in trying to frame google for his fuckup. :error

Mr Pheer 12-29-2006 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by the indigo (Post 11617140)
Thanks for the bump.

People are not dumbasses... they do dumb things. That been said, at 36 I will be a long-time retiree driving karts around the world when you will still tell people how dumb they are on GFY :winkwink:

Dont tell me about driving karts dude... I've got more trophies than I can count

Only one guy beat me in the IKF Texas State Championship

maybe you've heard his name.. AJ Foyt IV

beckie 12-30-2006 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equinox (Post 11618175)
Whenever there is money being spent without you having to actually spend it yourself, it's a really good idea to keep track of what's happening - constantly. There's no excuse in trying to frame google for his fuckup. :error

I agree with you there, however... At the same time, I hired someone to manage my campaigns and made my budget higher. So here I thought my bill was higher because of someone optimizing my campaigns - instead it was my money being spent on their content network. It was CRAP traffic - at least in my case.

I know it's not an excuse, but I'm not going to take 100% blame. My bitch is about $400. Not $15k. (Yikes). :Oh crap I'm extremely anal when it comes to my money. :(


edit: 50 fraud clicks

cool1g 12-30-2006 12:36 AM

my adwords campaigns haven't changed...


the 1 think i'd heavily question is this...the adwords content network are results shown on people who put adsense on their sites. now you are not allowed to put adsense on adult sites....so then it seems your keywords if truly being shown on the content network are being shown on non-adult sites...

Pleasurepays 12-30-2006 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cool1g (Post 11618372)
my adwords campaigns haven't changed...


the 1 think i'd heavily question is this...the adwords content network are results shown on people who put adsense on their sites. now you are not allowed to put adsense on adult sites....so then it seems your keywords if truly being shown on the content network are being shown on non-adult sites...

wrong.

adult adwords content ads are shown on parked pages and on all kinds of shit sites.

Nathan 12-30-2006 01:57 AM

The content network is YEARS old... the only thing Google changed is giving you the option not to advertise on it, no?

Content Network was added some months ago as a seperate option, before it was just all in one, was it not? The optimization for it has just changed as well or so it seems to me. So that is why there is not problem for them to just automatically enable content network for all old campaigns, it was activated before anyway...

The thing that concerns me way way more here is the few people that said they had a limit of for example $100 and google let it go higher than that. THAT is fucked up.

If you have a limit of $X and then complain google spent it all, you need to rethink your way of making money ;)

aico 12-30-2006 02:56 AM

damn they had that shit turned on on mine too, this could explain a lot... fuckers

madawgz 12-30-2006 02:56 AM

damn that fucking sucks :(

Brujah 12-30-2006 05:54 AM

The only change I made to adjust the sudden flood of content network traffic, was to lower the amount I pay for each click. I'll still take all of it that they can send, but instead of paying 0.50c or higher for it, I'm only paying 0.05c for it at most.

FuqALot 12-30-2006 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SexPlayAlfa (Post 11617981)
ppc is like gambling .. just like gambling the casino always wins in the end :)

indeed.....

FuqALot 12-30-2006 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equinox (Post 11618027)
You cocksucking whiners, don't supervise your own campaigns and then blame the PPC engine for presenting you with a fat bill.

dumbest post ever hah

eZe 12-30-2006 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beejeebers (Post 11617101)
There is no money to be made in adwords, none.

I hope everyone believes this. I will definately more more money if there are less advertisers.

needlive 12-30-2006 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagwolf (Post 11614910)
That's an expensive lesson. :helpme

I think the same. When you think that everything's ok, then comes something bad...

sk3tch 12-30-2006 02:47 PM

They did the same thing to me. (on a non-adult site) i lost $5K with those fuckers... i was only using 2 keywords.

GODDAMN I HATE GOOGLE FOR ANYTHING!!!!

YourMothersFatArse 12-30-2006 03:10 PM

punch them in the fuck

the indigo 12-31-2006 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eZe (Post 11618042)
Due to how Google's system automatically "optimizes" ad rotations it is possible to be getting traffic then totally have it drop off. Or vice versa, getting no traffic and then have it spike. I have a couple of clients who pay me to manage google traffic it is a total pain in the ass to try to explain this. Makes me look like an ass.

Indeed... I was monitoring one campaign but did not really bother with a few very small ones that were active since 1.5-2 years... you don't think small steady campaigns will spike from 300 hits per month @ $0.15 to 3500 hits @ $0.97 overnight... especially not when there was no change made to TOS/Campaigns setup from that date.

It's like a bad surprise party.

Adultnet 12-31-2006 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by J.P. (Post 11614582)
I agree, their content network is pure garbage... I guess it's because of all those adsense "experts"/spammers/abusers out there... I always switch off the option to receive traffic from their content network... Have no idea how yours got switched on, but good luck on getting your money back!

Thats a smart choice anyways its always a great idea to monitor your expenses online.:pimp

Niko 12-31-2006 07:00 AM

let's see, your average CPC is $0.74 per click... for mainstream adult traffic!?!? what's the max CPC you've set, $5? $10? i've got a bridge to sell you

Barefootsies 12-31-2006 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the indigo (Post 11614494)
Google stole me $15,000+


Basic_man 12-31-2006 09:06 AM

This story really sucks. I'll watch my campaign more closely!

jeffrey 12-31-2006 09:08 AM

I would say your the only one at fault.
I dont know how you could miss that even if you have "lots" of campains, do you not check ANY of them? I know if I saw that in one I would check the others.
But then if you would even scan pages befor clicking ok you would notice more things too.

I hope lots of you do stop using google :) Actually I encourage you to "stick it to them" by not using them. As soon as they dont see that 500 bucks a year I am sure accounting will flip out and they will do everything they can to get you back. :thumbsup


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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11616070)
dont be surprised if they come after you. 15K is worth fighting for. you agreed to their terms. the mistake is yours. if you want to make an argument about the traffic, quality, account history etc... you might find yourself having to make that argument in court as a defendant if you don't be careful.
:2 cents:

Same thing I was going to say.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SexPlayAlfa (Post 11616937)
not really .. i would be careful if i were google .. a class action lawsuit is waiting for them in the corner

Google is one of those companies that would spend more then what the suit is for just to win to prove their case.

Barefootsies 12-31-2006 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beckie (Post 11618292)
I'm extremely anal when it comes to my money. :(

edit: 50 fraud clicks

Dutchie :winkwink:

StephADT 12-31-2006 09:40 AM

What's wrong with Google's content network? I get an average of 6 page views from visitors from the content network. I also don't pay more than .10 per click so I don't worry too much about it.

EBORG9 12-31-2006 10:36 AM

I am still learning about about this. I have read and hear hundreds of stories like this about Google.
It just seems that they are trying to do too many things, and all of them are about 75%.
I am sorry that has happened to you, but everytime a company gets too big for their britches, they are a prime target to loose consumers respect, and market share. And most companies fall from grace because of it, and never recover.

It seems Google is making themselves a prime target for corporate espionage, and catastrphic disaster.
Just based on companies that have gone before them, and got kicked in the ass when they wern't looking.

I wouldn't be suprised to read an article in 3 years titled "The rise and fall of Google".

tg1 01-01-2007 08:04 PM

rule of thumb with google.......always watch it, monitor it daily...if not 1x ....2x a day...seriously.....it's the only way to go with that traffic unfortunately

the indigo 01-02-2007 04:43 PM

Thank you for your email, and I apologize for your frustration with the
content network. In certain cases, we can issue users who are unhappy with
the relevance on the content network a one-time courtesy credit in the
amount of 10% of their monthly spend across all campaigns.

If you'd like to accept this credit, reply to this message with your
confirmation. After we process your credit, you'll see it reflected on
your Billing Summary.

I also want to inform you that, per Google policy, if you protest these
charges with your bank and initiate any chargebacks, your AdWords account
will be suspended indefinitely. Therefore, if you would like to continue
advertising on Google, I urge you not to issue any chargebacks. If you
need any further clarification on this point, please let me know.

beckie 01-02-2007 05:29 PM

Lisa M. from Google called me today and she said she will try to get me some type of credit. I will NOT accept a 10% credit. :mad:

I would rather chargeback and never use Adwords again. Fuckers.

polish_aristocrat 01-03-2007 09:50 PM

hey btw are the parked domains a part of Googles search partners or content network?

polish_aristocrat 01-03-2007 09:54 PM

I noticed that sometimes there's absolutely no relevancy between your keywords (even if you use [exact match] to ensure the most targetted traffic) and the parked domain, where your ads are shown...

KaLi 01-03-2007 11:45 PM

Well I made $3,000 in adsense a few months back and they cancelled my account saying I was faking clicks. Never paid me. Fucking asscockmongers :( :)

Sad thing is it was all legit, lol. o_O

INever 01-22-2007 11:54 AM

I thought google was out of adult
 
There are some obvious terms and phrases with NO adwords links anymore. Once they started "landing page" analysis last year I had to leave them.

Am waiting for the next "hot" search engine to take the public by storm.

Klen 01-22-2007 11:58 AM

That's way is better to use yahoo or msn for advertising.Google adwords is shit.


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