Do you think its time to start making 1024x wide paysites?

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  • cardinalvices
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    • Dec 2006
    • 2084

    #1

    Do you think its time to start making 1024x wide paysites?

    Most of the people around are getting used to wide screens 9:16. Don't you think its time for us designers to begin making wider sites? Slick Cash already released their pack of what they call "High Definition" sites. Would you go for that change in 2007?
  • geeksta
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    • May 2005
    • 157

    #2
    dunno about paysites since I just run blogs and link lists, but yeah, I'm tired of the fuckers surfing in on 800x600, get a real fucking screen, please! But I still design for 800 x 600, maybe this year I'll stop and let the idiots who still look at their screen in that size just suffer the scroll.
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    • BV
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      • Sep 2001
      • 10914

      #3
      i'm bumping my new stuff up to 900 pixels from 740.

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      • ttuurrbboo
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        • Aug 2002
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        #4
        just let them choose from various versions
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        • just_beginner
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          • Sep 2004
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          #5
          i don't think that a lot of surfers have 800x600... so fuck them...

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          • martinsc
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            • Jun 2005
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            #6
            i am going mainly for 1024 since a few months...
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            • slurpee
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              • Nov 2006
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              #7
              1024 sized paysite is quite a large sized website. the only problem i can se is that some users has a very slow internet connections. visitors of this site might get pissed off waiting for the site to load.
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              • Lazonby
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                • Feb 2006
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                #8
                Originally posted by geeksta
                dunno about paysites since I just run blogs and link lists, but yeah, I'm tired of the fuckers surfing in on 800x600, get a real fucking screen, please! But I still design for 800 x 600, maybe this year I'll stop and let the idiots who still look at their screen in that size just suffer the scroll.
                Could you post your screen size %s? I find that 800x600 is less than 1% of the total, 1280x1024 being the most common amongst my sample.

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                • Viper2K1
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                  • Aug 2001
                  • 1006

                  #9
                  the % of 800*600 is dropping month after month (you can look up the stats yourself)
                  I optimize for 1024 ... and for now, somewhat try to put the non-esential stuff on the right
                  cos you don't really want to say "fuck you" to 7-10% of your visitors
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                  • AnnaSucks
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                    • Jun 2006
                    • 279

                    #10
                    I just go with the vast majority of my stats. While I feel bad for the guys surfing on a 800 by 600 monitors, the way I justify wider pages to myself is that the guys with smaller monitors are less likely to spend money on a membership as they won't even get a decent monitor.

                    Here are my resolution stats:

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                    • geeksta
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                      • May 2005
                      • 157

                      #11
                      1024x768 46.25%
                      800x600 17.00%
                      1280x1024 11.25%
                      1152x864 7.00%
                      1400x1050 1.00%
                      1600x1200 0.50%

                      yeah.. i think it's time to give these peeps the boot. I hate 800x600 and even before the age of the larger digital screen I hated 800 x 600. Who looks at their screen in that size? Maybe grandpas with vision problems and the disabled? If that's the case and they have credit cards -- hmmm... does anyone here design sites that are vision and disabled friendly? Is it worth the work in adult sites?
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                      • just a punk
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                        • Jun 2003
                        • 32393

                        #12
                        We're making 1024 designs within all the last year already.
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                        • J.P.
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                          • Jun 2004
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                          #13
                          Same here, 1024 for all the last year... Only 15% of my visitors still use 800x600 or less.
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                          • Methodcash Rick
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                            • Jul 2004
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                            #14
                            We've had a 1024 tour option for affiliates for about 6 months, and the results have been better than expected.

                            Our stats told us that a majority of (our) surfers were 1024 or higher, so we made the option available.

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                            • Methodcash Rick
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                              • Jul 2004
                              • 1720

                              #15
                              Here's our surfer stats if it helps..


                              Screen sizes Percent
                              1024x768 51.1 &#37;
                              800x600 14.6 %
                              1280x1024 11.7 %
                              1680x1050 9.5 %
                              1280x800 5.0 %
                              Others 7.8 %

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                              • StuBradley
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                                • Jul 2002
                                • 2625

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Lazonby
                                Could you post your screen size %s? I find that 800x600 is less than 1% of the total, 1280x1024 being the most common amongst my sample.
                                You just pull 'samples' out of your ass?


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                                • The Ghost
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                                  • Oct 2004
                                  • 12188

                                  #17
                                  I asked this the same question a few weeks ago, and agree it's time to bump up the size. Not fully into 1024, and a large tour would only compliment better content. If the content is subpar, making it bigger will not help.

                                  Food for thought though is that the biggest programs with the biggest sites on the web are using 800 pixels tours.
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                                  • rankscom
                                    Rick Moby
                                    • Sep 2001
                                    • 433

                                    #18
                                    Some things to think about too...

                                    -Even if users are using resolutions of 1280x1024 or higher, they may not have their browser maximized when browsing. I never do.

                                    -For those that do have their browser maximized, they may have a favorites bar (or rss feed, history, etc) always enabled, which uses some real estate.

                                    I'm not a fan of "forced" wide sites when I browse for these reasons.
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                                    • StuBradley
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                                      • Jul 2002
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by J.P.
                                      Same here, 1024 for all the last year... Only 15% of my visitors still use 800x600 or less.
                                      So you just alienated 15% of your customers (plus another 5-10% who like me and Rick don't maximize our browsers). You sir are brilliant!


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                                      • StuartD
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                                        • Jul 2002
                                        • 29903

                                        #20
                                        http://www.nhl.com -> table width="1000"

                                        That's what I've been going with.
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                                        • fuzebox
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                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 22352

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by cardinalvices
                                          Most of the people around are getting used to wide screens 9:16.
                                          "Most people around"... Are you sure you're not just bias because you and all your friends are on the computer a lot?

                                          Seeing how much we are all online we have a skewed perception of what the "average user" uses...

                                          I'll even go so far as to suggest that a user with a nice big monitor running at a high resolution is probably more savvy with technologies like torrents and p2p to steal content But that may be going a bit far.

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                                          • fuzebox
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                                            • Oct 2003
                                            • 22352

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by StuBradley
                                            (plus another 5-10% who like me and Rick don't maximize our browsers).
                                            I can't stand maximizing any window... I don't get how people can be productive alt-tabbing back and forth with only one thing on their screen at a time...

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                                            • diesel
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                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 1097

                                              #23
                                              We are working on the flexible versions of our paysites, I will have results after new year

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                                              • The Ghost
                                                IslandDollars.com
                                                • Oct 2004
                                                • 12188

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by diesel
                                                We are working on the flexible versions of our paysites, I will have results after new year
                                                Now THIS would be good information. Flexible how?
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                                                • jeffrey
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                                                  • Jul 2004
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Lazonby
                                                  Could you post your screen size %s? I find that 800x600 is less than 1% of the total, 1280x1024 being the most common amongst my sample.

                                                  I do my freesites etc at 900px wide.
                                                  Like you only about 1% is 800x600
                                                  1280x1024 is only slightly ahead of 1024x768 for me.

                                                  I would go a bit wider, but I know not everyone uses full screen. I also try and put the least important parts on the right edge.
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                                                  • BV
                                                    wtf
                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                    • 10914

                                                    #26
                                                    more than 1% are 800x600 10-15% is more like a real number! (for those that are wondering)

                                                    Hence why I am bumping only to 900 and not say 1000 or 1024 blah blah....

                                                    The 8x6 surfers have to be getting used to scrolling, they expect it IMO.

                                                    1024 minimum I'd leap to guess is the lowest standard. anyone on 800x600 or less is either old and blind with a small monitor or surfing on something like a pda and are expecting what they get. If they hit a 900 wide site wont be near as bad as a 1000 or higher.

                                                    We all hate scroll bars.

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                                                    • _Rush_
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                                                      • Dec 2006
                                                      • 742

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                      I can't stand maximizing any window... I don't get how people can be productive alt-tabbing back and forth with only one thing on their screen at a time...
                                                      We have multiple monitors

                                                      Seriously, I can't stand not maximizing everything. I usually run a browser on my right screen and everything else on the left. I think my productivity has increased a lot since then.

                                                      I used to work next to a guy that ran like three windows at a time, all flat and long, and I just couldn't understand how he could work like that.

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                                                      • I LOVE Little Brown Asses
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                                                        • Jan 2006
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                        I can't stand maximizing any window... I don't get how people can be productive alt-tabbing back and forth with only one thing on their screen at a time...
                                                        Who's talking about being productive? We're talking about looking at porn!

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                                                        • _Rush_
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                                                          #29
                                                          In my past post, I meant that I couldn't stand resizing the windows. 4am over here. Sorry.
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                                                          • Paul Markham
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                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                            • 52942

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by The Ghost
                                                            Now THIS would be good information. Flexible how?
                                                            Don't know how the programmers did it but all of our sites adapt to the size of the users screen.

                                                            OK 15% of people use 800x600. Probably a few with small lap tops, but how many of these people are going to be BUYING porn?

                                                            We don't make money out of traffic, we make money out of sign ups. So how many people of that 15% are spending money on porn? Add in the guys on a dial up connection.

                                                            Now think about the people who do spend money on their equipment and think how many of them might also spend money on porn. So are you selling to the tiny amount of people who might spend money and losing out to the majority who will spend money?

                                                            Convert one guy on a dial up & 800x600 and lose two on DSL & 1025x768.



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                                                            • Paul Markham
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                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                              • 52942

                                                              #31
                                                              And the last thing we do is optimize the site to suit webmasters and programmers. 99.9% of these guys will never spend money on porn.



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                                                              • inthecrack
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                                                                • May 2006
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                                                                #32
                                                                I can't believe people are still using 800x600. Seems archaic. I've been viewing the the internet at 2560x1600 for probably close to 2 years now. If people can't buy a proper monitor they probably wont buy porn either.
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                                                                • Hardcore J
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                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 2553

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                  I can't stand maximizing any window... I don't get how people can be productive alt-tabbing back and forth with only one thing on their screen at a time...
                                                                  What about multiple monitors?

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                                                                  • Hardcore J
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                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                    • 2553

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                    Convert one guy on a dial up & 800x600 and lose two on DSL & 1025x768.
                                                                    What would cause you to lose the sales to the 1024x768 guys? They can still view a site designed for 800x600 just fine ...

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                                                                    • inthecrack
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                                                                      • May 2006
                                                                      • 533

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I just had a look at my stats. 0.3&#37; have a screen resolution of 240x160....240x160!!! WTF! Is that some guy in Kazakhstan with a '70s computer or is that some kind of mobile device?
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                                                                      • Mohammad Paki
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                                                                        • Dec 2006
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by inthecrack
                                                                        I can't believe people are still using 800x600. Seems archaic. I've been viewing the the internet at 2560x1600 for probably close to 2 years now. If people can't buy a proper monitor they probably wont buy porn either.

                                                                        haha..

                                                                        Perhaps they not buy new monitor because their old one still works? Not everyone spends their cash upgrading to the lastest PC spec every month... they might be spending that cash on Porn instead.

                                                                        Guess no one else remember 640 x 480 websites and the change to 800 x 600

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                                                                        • Adultnet
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                                                                          • Sep 2003
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          yeah I think I will do some changes on 2007...


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                                                                          • J.P.
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                                                                            • Jun 2004
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by StuBradley
                                                                            So you just alienated 15&#37; of your customers (plus another 5-10% who like me and Rick don't maximize our browsers). You sir are brilliant!

                                                                            Paul Markham answered this for me, thank you Paul!

                                                                            So you think we should all make our websites 640px wide because of the people that do not want their browsers maximized on 800x600 resolution? We just don't want to "alienize" them either, right?
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                                                                            • J.P.
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                                                                              • Jun 2004
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Oh, and I forgot something, I put some not that relevant content to the right column, so all the main advertising and content is still visible without scrolling to the ones on 800x600 displays.
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                                                                              • Barefootsies
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by inthecrack
                                                                                I can't believe people are still using 800x600. Seems archaic. I've been viewing the the internet at 2560x1600 for probably close to 2 years now. If people can't buy a proper monitor they probably wont buy porn either.

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                                                                                • LA Mike
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                                                                                  • Jul 2001
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Yep, all of our new sites we have been building in 1024. 800x600 seems so small these days and everyone is using bigger monitors.

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                                                                                  • cardinalvices
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                                                                                    • Dec 2006
                                                                                    • 2084

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    so basically you all are saying that 1024 is true and that we all should move on to that rez then.. I don't know a way of making the graphics stretch from 800x to 1024x

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                                                                                    • ToplistBlog_Com
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                                                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                                                      • 2065

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Thats Not a right time to do that 1024x.. check the updates...

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                                                                                      • potter
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                                                                                        • Dec 2004
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        All my designs in 2006 were made for 1024+ browsers. Usually with a 900-1000px wide layout. Stats have shown 800x600 to be well below 20&#37; for as long as I can remember. I'd much rather please the majority of visitors with a higher resolution, and assume the very few 800x600 are used to scrolling a little. Rather than give the majority a mediocore layout for their resoltion by contorting the content/layout down to a small resolution simply to indulge the minority.

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                                                                                        • reynold
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                                                                                          • Oct 2002
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          I bet this is going to be another trend in paysite designing.

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