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Anyone using 750Gb drives?

12-28-2006, 09:29 AM

I came across these when browsing my local PC shop pricing list... holy crap, they're cramming a lot of data onto those things these days!

Is anyone using these? Are you concerned about the potential for losing a shitload more data if there's a mechanical failure? I'm considering using a couple of these for long term backups, maybe one inside the PC "full time" and another as an removable external drive.

The only catch is the per gig price. I'd be paying a premium to save a bit of space and electronics when a cheap software controller could stripe two lower capacity (and cheaper per gig) drives. 2 x 400Gb is about 25% cheaper than 1 x 750Gb.
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12-28-2006, 09:32 AM

got one in my ps3
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12-28-2006, 09:32 AM

BTW the Seagate 300Gb SATA drives I purchased about a year ago are now being cleared out at less than half the price I paid......
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12-28-2006, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by Screaming

got one in my ps3

That's one point I didn't consider... devices which can only take a single drive. I have a media player which only accepts one HD. A 750Gb drive in that would be nice.
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12-28-2006, 09:59 AM

I didn't know they did make such large drives.

Wouldn't be too funny to have disc-failure and lose 750Gb.
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12-28-2006, 10:02 AM

we are going to use them in our new backup server 14x750

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12-28-2006, 10:07 AM

thats not a large drive. someone around here has like 13 or more tera byte drives.

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12-28-2006, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by pornguy

thats not a large drive. someone around here has like 13 or more tera byte drives.

...which are created by striping two or more standard drives...

As far as I know 750Gb is the largest capacity single drive you can currently buy.
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12-28-2006, 10:10 AM

80gb is still more than enough for me

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12-28-2006, 10:12 AM

Hmm, the 300Gb SATAs are going out for $AUD110, put 6 of them in a RAID5 array and you have 1500Gb. 750Gb drives cost $AUD555 and you would need 3 of them for a 1500Gb RAID5 array.

The 6 x 300Gb array would cost $AUD660, the 3 x 750Gb array would cost $AUD1665... quite a significant price difference for the same capacity. (With a 6 drive array you may need to spend more on a controller and case that can handle that many drives)
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12-28-2006, 10:14 AM

O, nm.....

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12-28-2006, 10:16 AM

300GB sata can go for around $95 USd now

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12-28-2006, 10:20 AM

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O, nm.....

I paid $AUD215 ($USD170) for them, they're now going out for $AUD110 ($USD87)
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12-29-2006, 11:40 PM

bump

anyone actually using these huge capacity drives yet?
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12-30-2006, 01:01 AM

i dont think i could go that big
id rather get acouple semi large hdd's
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12-30-2006, 01:12 AM

I have seen 1 in the past month in a system in my shop, but the guy wanted it partitioned into 4 partitions. He bought the drive and brought it to us to install and partition! I was wondering who buys a huge drive and don't even know how to partition their own hdd?!
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12-30-2006, 02:27 AM

Originally posted by xecutech

I have seen 1 in the past month in a system in my shop, but the guy wanted it partitioned into 4 partitions. He bought the drive and brought it to us to install and partition! I was wondering who buys a huge drive and don't even know how to partition their own hdd?!

He might be a sharing buff, knows stuff all about hardware but knows that he needs a big HD. If you're going to partition a large drive then you may as well just install 2 or more lower capacity (and cheaper) drives... assuming your case isn't already an oven crammed full of them.

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12-30-2006, 03:28 AM

I have several of the Seagate 750GB, no problems

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12-30-2006, 03:29 AM

750gb?? Crazy, iam no 500gb and even this is a overload for me..
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12-30-2006, 06:01 AM

we deal in tons of video and have external harddrives all over. Last month Costco had 600gig drives on sale for $325. I couldn't resist buying a batch of em. Prices keep coming down and will continue to do so for larger and larger drives.

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12-30-2006, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by rowan

Hmm, the 300Gb SATAs are going out for $AUD110, put 6 of them in a RAID5 array and you have 1500Gb. 750Gb drives cost $AUD555 and you would need 3 of them for a 1500Gb RAID5 array.

The 6 x 300Gb array would cost $AUD660, the 3 x 750Gb array would cost $AUD1665... quite a significant price difference for the same capacity. (With a 6 drive array you may need to spend more on a controller and case that can handle that many drives)

I would think the 6 x 300 would be faster.
Gotta thing hte 750gb drives would have a high seek time, lots of shit to look through to find what you want.

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12-30-2006, 06:46 AM

i have 4 750gb seagates and 8 500gb seagates, had 1 500gb DOA.

newegg has a deal right now on the 500's. pay $209 for the 500 and get a free 250gb

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12-30-2006, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by rowan

T I have a media player which only accepts one HD. A 750Gb drive in that would be nice.

Got one in a ACARD DVD duplicator ... better then having trays to switch ...

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12-30-2006, 06:54 AM

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we deal in tons of video and have external harddrives all over. Last month Costco had 600gig drives on sale for $325. I couldn't resist buying a batch of em. Prices keep coming down and will continue to do so for larger and larger drives.

Here is the better deal for externals. ;) I just ordered 11 of these this week.

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12-30-2006, 07:36 AM

We have a setup with 8X 750GB barracuda SE's, works fine Much better than Lacies "big disks" they crash all the time and there's no good raid setup available with those.
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12-30-2006, 07:40 AM

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12-30-2006, 08:25 AM

I'm using 2 that I purchased from Zip Zoom Fly and they work fine. If you're going to use 1 make sure that you buy 2 and use the 2nd one as a backup.

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12-30-2006, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

Here is the better deal for externals. ;) I just ordered 11 of these this week.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136047

too damn slow, i switched to external sata as soon as it was available.

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12-30-2006, 08:47 AM

raid controler for 16 sata disks is $850+...

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12-30-2006, 09:37 AM

Yea, have a few servers using the 750GB drives.

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12-30-2006, 09:54 AM

I use a Netgear Storage Central Network Hard Drive Enclosure. it holds two drives and you just add it to the network and all PC's can connect to it. It was $99 and I have two 750Gb Drives in it. I keep some important stuff on it along with content so it allows you to make them one big drive or you can use one for storage and one to be a mirror of the other .. anytime you add or remove anything it mirrors the drive. If one goes bad i just swap it out and it will mirror off the other. it does cut the space in half but i won't lose anything.

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12-30-2006, 10:00 AM

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I use a Netgear Storage Central Network Hard Drive Enclosure. it holds two drives and you just add it to the network and all PC's can connect to it. It was $99 and I have two 750Gb Drives in it. I keep some important stuff on it along with content so it allows you to make them one big drive or you can use one for storage and one to be a mirror of the other .. anytime you add or remove anything it mirrors the drive. If one goes bad i just swap it out and it will mirror off the other. it does cut the space in half but i won't lose anything.

These things suck ass i have one of them your comps dont see the fuckers unless you install netgear's bullshit drivers and last time i checked there were no Vista drivers for these.

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12-30-2006, 10:01 AM

160gb is enough for me now.
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12-30-2006, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by sandman!

These things suck ass i have one of them your comps dont see the fuckers unless you install netgear's bullshit drivers and last time i checked there were no Vista drivers for these.

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You know what .. I didn't even think about the Vista thing. I don't mind the fact that other PC's can't see it without the drivers because i only have a few PC's that I want to share the content with. I did notice the down side that it formats the drive differently then a PC or reg. external so you can't just pop it in another case or PC .. we'll see in time if it's an issue but for know it's making shit easy. before i was swapping externals from PC to PC .. you know to watermark content and I have separate PC's Rendering movies.

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12-30-2006, 10:16 AM

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You know what .. I didn't even think about the Vista thing. I don't mind the fact that other PC's can't see it without the drivers because i only have a few PC's that I want to share the content with. I did notice the down side that it formats the drive differently then a PC or reg. external so you can't just pop it in another case or PC .. we'll see in time if it's an issue but for know it's making shit easy. before i was swapping externals from PC to PC .. you know to watermark content and I have separate PC's Rendering movies.

The point is NAS devices should not require seperate drivers you can buy many devices like this that dont require any drivers Netgear does not even tell you this is not a standard NAS devise on thier site and that you have to install thier drivers

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12-30-2006, 10:22 AM

I still think is better to buy a lot of 300 gb disks instead one big one.
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12-30-2006, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by sandman!

The point is NAS devices should not require seperate drivers you can buy many devices like this that dont require any drivers Netgear does not even tell you this is not a standard NAS devise on thier site and that you have to install their drivers

I only picked it all up about 2 weeks ago when Xmas shopping. maybe i should bring it back and get another system. any recommendations for something similar ?

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12-30-2006, 12:13 PM

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12-30-2006, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by MikeVega

I only picked it all up about 2 weeks ago when Xmas shopping. maybe i should bring it back and get another system. any recommendations for something similar ?

$60 for an enclosure that takes only one hd tho the only nice thing about the netgeat units is that they take 2 drives thats why i bought one downside is tho that you need drivers installed to see them

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12-30-2006, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by pornguy

thats not a large drive. someone around here has like 13 or more tera byte drives.

you;re a terabyte drive
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12-30-2006, 01:29 PM

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12-30-2006, 01:31 PM

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12-30-2006, 02:51 PM

if it fails... that would totally suck

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12-30-2006, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by MikeVega

I use a Netgear Storage Central Network Hard Drive Enclosure. it holds two drives and you just add it to the network and all PC's can connect to it. It was $99 and I have two 750Gb Drives in it. I keep some important stuff on it along with content so it allows you to make them one big drive or you can use one for storage and one to be a mirror of the other .. anytime you add or remove anything it mirrors the drive. If one goes bad i just swap it out and it will mirror off the other. it does cut the space in half but i won't lose anything.

I wanted to buy a netgear but I heard some much bad thing about it that I went instead with the terraStation:

It has 4 x 250 hardrives in it.
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12-30-2006, 06:52 PM

I gotta pick up one of those.. how much do they go for?

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12-31-2006, 02:00 AM

Originally posted by MikeVega

I use a Netgear Storage Central Network Hard Drive Enclosure. it holds two drives and you just add it to the network and all PC's can connect to it. It was $99 and I have two 750Gb Drives in it. I keep some important stuff on it along with content so it allows you to make them one big drive or you can use one for storage and one to be a mirror of the other .. anytime you add or remove anything it mirrors the drive. If one goes bad i just swap it out and it will mirror off the other. it does cut the space in half but i won't lose anything.

I was reading up on this product the other day and the initial reaction wasn't favourable... apart from the proprietary file system and Windows-only driver requirement it DOESN'T offer seamless recovery when a drive fails. You need to copy the data off the device, replace the drive, format, then copy it back over. There were also complaints that the read/write time was super slow due to Netgear's designers using an underpowered CPU (the tech guy replying compared it with a 486 class CPU)

If I knew more about embedded Linux I'd probably pick one up just to have a hack and turn it into a genuine SMB server with a standard mirror filesystem... but I don't.
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12-31-2006, 04:42 AM

nope did not buy a 750 Gb Hard drive yet.. but its fucking allot of storage

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12-31-2006, 02:19 PM

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