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Old 12-27-2006, 12:46 PM   #51
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even those that have indoor cats..can you guarantee they will never run out of the house when you aren't looking?
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:48 PM   #52
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even those that have indoor cats..can you guarantee they will never run out of the house when you aren't looking?
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:57 PM   #53
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Another vote against declawing. Cats are fascinating (if a bit violent) animals, I wouldn't dream of declawing my girls.... but then I personally wouldn't contemplate not letting my girls go outside to decimate the local mouse population either.
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I think its absolutely sick to declaw a cat... how would you like your fgingernails ripped out?
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I heard a story from my friend. They were proposed this operation when the cat was big enough. About 3 years.
The operation was not a success and the cat was bleeding and died in 3 days. I don't know why. The claim that the cat was so upset that died.
Souds strainge. But after that story my cat is only castrated and nothing else.
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Old 12-27-2006, 07:53 PM   #56
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i still cant believe the peeps in this thread who think its not a big deal... do NOT get a cat if you don't wanna own a whole cat. Again this is the first time i hear about declawing and it's fucking ridiculous.
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Old 12-27-2006, 08:02 PM   #57
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Slick ... if you get a cat, you need to know beforehand that they WILL claw, and that's the nature of a cat ... a cat doesn't claw just for the sake of it, it's part of it's nature. I have the two cats as you know ... and I let them tear the fucking place apart ... I got the cats, so I accept the way they are.

It's cruel to take it's claws off
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Put some cosmic catnip on her scratching posts.
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Old 12-27-2006, 10:17 PM   #59
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Don't do it. I've had my cat 14 years and she's 100% indoor cat and has never been declawed. Yes, she's done some damage, but the pain they go through is horrendous. Many vets won't even do it any more.

Had to laugh about Sarah's comment about the sofa. My puppy tore off the skirt (I mean ripped the entire freaking material) off an $800 chair. Granted, that's not much to you playas, but it's going to fun to try to contact the company and see if I can get the fabric for recovering it, lol. He's also chewed up my cell phone, cordless antenna, all the remotes, the coffee table, actually started chewing on the ROCK fireplace and tries to chew on the glass front door. That's actually pretty funny to watch from the other side ;)
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That's exactly what I was going to suggest. If your cat scratches the furniture, either buy her little slippers or make her some. Make sure you clip her nails on a regular basis, it's easy and most cats don't mind, mine don't say a word, they don't even move, and it only takes a couple of minutes.

I have 3 cats, have had cats my whole life and I would never dream of having one declawed. It's extremely painful for them and cruel beyond belief. Those who have declawed cats that have suffered no emotional or physical consequences are very lucky, not necessarily the norm.

It's not illegal here, but many vets will NOT do it at any price and will try to teach you how to train your cat not to scratch instead.

If you don't know what it entails, talk to your vet about it, ask him/her how they do it, what they remove, the excruciating pain the cat will go through, and the possible complications. That should make up your mind real fast not to do it.

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I had to get a cat declawed when I moved to Tucson. That way it didn't count as a pet for some reason. It was horrible. The poor guy was the most good natured animal I'd ever had, and the vet did an awful job. I found out afterward that the vet didn't even do it, only the assistant did. They put the tourniquet on too tight and he lost circulation to one front paw. The foot swelled up to the size of a golf ball for a week or two, the skin sloughed off, and I had to put cream on it every day and give him painkillers. He walked on it fine once it healed, but he always had a ring where the fur didn't grow back on that ankle. The vet basically said sorry and left it at that.
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:07 AM   #63
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Don't do it. I've had my cat 14 years and she's 100% indoor cat and has never been declawed. Yes, she's done some damage, but the pain they go through is horrendous. Many vets won't even do it any more.

Had to laugh about Sarah's comment about the sofa. My puppy tore off the skirt (I mean ripped the entire freaking material) off an $800 chair. Granted, that's not much to you playas, but it's going to fun to try to contact the company and see if I can get the fabric for recovering it, lol. He's also chewed up my cell phone, cordless antenna, all the remotes, the coffee table, actually started chewing on the ROCK fireplace and tries to chew on the glass front door. That's actually pretty funny to watch from the other side ;)


I am currently dealing with a 10 month old spaniel who has decided it is fun to take my wallpaper off the wall with her teeth. Frustrating as hell but hopefully she will eventually get past this excessive chewing stage. To me it is like sticking with a kid while they are in a destructive stage.
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Old 12-28-2006, 04:58 AM   #64
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my cats needs his claws to jump fences and climb trees!
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:56 AM   #65
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meh, my parents have a cat its about ten years old, it was declawed. I can see why everyone thinks its cruel. But just to let you know, the cat is and has been absolutely fine. he was an indoor cat but for years has gone out during the day in warm weather. Hes a big boy and has been in a bunch of fights and kicked ass lol. So he seems to be fine.
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Old 12-28-2006, 06:10 AM   #66
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Leave the cat as mother nature made her. You don´t like scratches, don´t get a cat. Mutilating her is fucking cruel.
Yep, that's my take on it. I have three cats and I wouldn't have bothered getting them if I wasn't prepared to keep them claws and all.
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Cats are NOT supposed to get declawed...
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I am currently dealing with a 10 month old spaniel who has decided it is fun to take my wallpaper off the wall with her teeth. Frustrating as hell but hopefully she will eventually get past this excessive chewing stage. To me it is like sticking with a kid while they are in a destructive stage.
Hey, my brother and SIL are spending all week removing wallpaper - I'm sure they'd work out a deal

My painter was talking about how hard it will be to repaint my pine kitchen counters because getting the varnish off is so difficult. I pointed out that the dogs had managed to get the varnish off the pine floors quite nicely, thankyouverymuch so all we had to do was put the cabinets on the floor for a bit

Now I'm going through 200+ pages with 6 samples each trying to find my chair fabric. Thank goodness I'd already decided to sell the furniture with the house or rent it out with the furniture in it. I might just hand sew the big pieces back together and put it on the other side of the table where no one can see it
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I have 12 cats and only one of them have been declawed, and the only reason that was done is because she has a skin condition and she scratches herself to the point of bleeding..... she is normal in every way, still catches mice better than any cat I own and goes outside where everything in the vacinity is terrified of her and so on........ lol

But none of the others are or will be. I don't like it and I think it is cruel, and the only way I'd ever do it again is if they were a danger to themselves. I wouldn't want someone to come and pull my fingernails out and I don't intend to do it to my cats.

We just make sure they have plenty of scratching posts and so on, and they don't attack my furniture.
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Well, after 200 pages, fabric not there

We offer a limited lifetime warranty on the frame and spring construction against defective materials or workmanship and on our seat cushions against the loss of resiliency. However, softening and flattening will occur in all foam as a result of use and age but this is considered completely normal.

NOTE: Upholstery fabrics are not guaranteed by the mills, therefore, we are unable to accept responsibility for wear, fading, or shrinkage

To express our appreciation for your choice of our furniture, we offer this limited lifetime warranty only to the original purchaser for residential use. It is valid only if the furniture has received normal usage and has not been subjected to abuse or improper care.


I don't think I'm going to get away with this ;)
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The same about mine, only add that he also has to fight with different animals in the garden and catch little birds.
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NO! definetly not. but we buy ikea furniture knowing it might be destroyed... so that if they do scratch it, its not a big deal. But, they are mostly indoor, and the only outdoor place they have is 4 stories up.
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"Declawing" is a misleading description - it's actually amputation of the toes upto the first joint and is illegal in many countries. Even if it's an indoor cat, DON'T get it declawed. If you can't accept that things will get scratched, you shouldn't own a cat.

A quick google search will give numerous resources on how to stop cats scratching your furniture..
Better yet take a little time use your brain and make sure you train your cat to scratch at the appropriate location. Just make sure the scratching post is longer than their body is stretched out, cover it in some catnip and tasty smells, and they will use it forever. My cats are 8 and 6 now and have never clawed up furniture or carpet. Just their posts.
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We'd never declaw them, even though they're indoor cats. Also, always heard it was cruel to declaw. BUT I've got a good friend who's a vet. He insists, done properly, it causes no harm, physical or mental. in fact he declawed all of his cats.
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Some cats claw your furniture some don't, it's the risk you take when you buy one. Cutting the claws off sounds pretty cruel. I'd go one further and say, keeping the cat indoors at all times isn't very nice either, they love to roam about outside, hunt mice and birds and socialise with other cats. They're predators not teddy bears or fashion accessories. I think given a choice, so long as you show them affection when they are around, they'll spend most of their time indoors sleeping anyway.

We had a dog when I was younger, it used to shit on the carpet, but we never sewed it's arsehole closed.
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When I bought my devons I had to sign papers saying I agreeded to never declaw the animal. Cat's are smart. Declawing is not the answer.
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not sure if its been mentioned as i don't have time to read the thread but you can get your cats claws removed via lazer. its supposed to be much less painful for the cat.
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My cat does scratch my furniture, on the other hand I want him to be able to defend himself........ So I never declawed my cat
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Please do not declaw the poor thing. It is NOT humane and anyone who says otherwise is deluding themselves.
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not sure if its been mentioned as i don't have time to read the thread but you can get your cats claws removed via lazer. its supposed to be much less painful for the cat.
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When I bought my devons I had to sign papers saying I agreeded to never declaw the animal. Cat's are smart. Declawing is not the answer.
Devons are great! I'd like to have such but my husband doesn't like this breed. So we have siamese. He is also very intelligent and almost ( ) spoil nothing at home.
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not sure if its been mentioned as i don't have time to read the thread but you can get your cats claws removed via lazer. its supposed to be much less painful for the cat.
It still involves amputating their toes.

I don't care how it's done and how painless it is. Amputating digits because you're too lazy to teach your cat or clip it's nails is just irresponsible and cruel. It's a shame that the US is so piss-backwards with animal cruelty laws.
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It's not nice o see cats being declawed. just leave them alone
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It still involves amputating their toes.

I don't care how it's done and how painless it is. Amputating digits because you're too lazy to teach your cat or clip it's nails is just irresponsible and cruel. It's a shame that the US is so piss-backwards with animal cruelty laws.
i don't know what kind of crazy things your vets do but my parents had this done to their cat, and it still had its toes. i've never seen a cat where declawing involved removing its toes.
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But sales are slumping, and no one will say why... Could it be they put out one too many lousy records? MTV get off the air NOW!
haha, yeah. thought it fit in pretty well with some of the things going on in adult these days too.
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Decalwing is cruel to say the least. What if your cat gets out and lost? With no claws it won't be able to fend for itself.

Not to mention the fact that cutting the tips of a cats toes and sewing them up is horrible.
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i don't know what kind of crazy things your vets do but my parents had this done to their cat, and it still had its toes. i've never seen a cat where declawing involved removing its toes.
it takes off the first part of the toe
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i don't know what kind of crazy things your vets do but my parents had this done to their cat, and it still had its toes. i've never seen a cat where declawing involved removing its toes.
Look up declawing on Google. It requires amputating at the first joint. As if someone were to cut off your finger or toe tip. This is how declawing is done.
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One of my cats was declawed but just her front paws and she was an outdoor cat. There are several methods to declawing that involve different type of operating procedures. However she was able to still defend herself with her back claws as well as even hunt and kill birds, mice etc...Somehow I am pretty sure she did not have any confidence issues with being able to do so. Now my current cat is indoor only cat who has all his claws. We have been meaning to get him declawed but money is an issue so we focus his clawing elsewhere besides my leather furniture....Cat scratch posts and stands make a good distraction but not all the time. Will the cat be in pain most likely but it is only a matter of a few days and the vet gives you medicine to make the pain almost non existent. The best time to declaw a cat is when it is young because the weight is still low and the recovery time will be quicker. While older cats will take a little longer to heal and have more weight to carry. Either way the choice is yours and you will need to do what you feel is right.

BTW this is a great side to read on this matter vetinfo.com/cdeclaw.html
If you want to know the truth ask the vets who do it.

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declawing an outdoor cat? Seriously, that *is* cruel.
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go google it ,it is so bad for the cat, it just takes a little time to teach it not to scratch the furniture.
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I get all of my cats depawed.
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Old 12-29-2006, 11:49 AM   #96
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i let my cat keep his claws..he needs it for defense
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Old 12-29-2006, 11:54 AM   #97
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I wouldn't do it to a cat.
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Old 12-29-2006, 01:57 PM   #98
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I'm a first time cat owner and my cat is upon 4 months old and it's getting to the age of getting spayed and perhaps declawed.

Since I don't know much about cats and everyone I asked so far is about 50/50 with their answers, so it could go either way.

In my own opinion, from what I heard, it sounds like a cruel and confusing thing to do to a cat and I'm actually leaning towards NOT getting it done.

Then I hear the stories of people saying that they didn't get their cat declawed and they regret it because it destroyed their furniture.

Like one friend of mine told me, I took on the responsibility of the cat and it's up to me to teach the cat not to do claw at stuff and I've been pretty consistant about taking out the spray bottle when she does claw at something, but what scares me is that she still goes back a short while later. I do have 3 scratching posts for her, but she never touched either of the them.

Please be gentle with me on this subject, like I say, this is my first cat, so I'm learning. I figured that there's a lot of cat owners on here, so what better place to ask It is a 100% indoor cat.
if you declaw your cat go down to the doctor and get the ends of your fucking fingers lopped off so you know how it feels
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Old 12-29-2006, 04:43 PM   #99
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Almost everyone is telling you noy to declaw your cat! You asked for suggestion, here it is.
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