Looking for ideas - WARNING: BUSINESS THREAD!

[MikeSmoke]

I must be having a brain fart.
I'm trying to figure out how to do this but coming up blank - if anyone can start the thought process for me, it would be appreciated

Site A is a membership site.
Site B is a membership site.
People can obviously join them independently.

What I'd *like* to do - is give members of site A a reduced price for site B, IF they join site B from inside the members' area of site A.
BUT I don't want them to be able to remain a member of site B at the reduced price if they let their membership to site A lapse. In other words, if they cancel site A - then their reduced price membership at site B would also be cancelled.

Anyone have any thoughts (other than slapping me on the side of the head - I've already tried that one and it isn't working )

[BigBen]

What processor are you using? What's running your backend? (custom, mpa, etc.)

[MikeSmoke]

The sites that would be involved are not SmokeCash sites so they don't have NATS or a custom backend - the sites involved are just standalones (with CCBill as the primary and Epoch as the secondary).

[FunkyDog]

So what about this:

On each site have these join options:

A ) Just the site (for example 20 us$/month)
B ) Both sites with reduction (for example 35 us$/month)

Put that on BOTH sites, CCBILL can do that. If they choose the second one (both sites) then their membership will cancell for both sites if they don't renew.

[aico]

I would let them keep the reduced membership rate (0+0=0). Most sites actually offer a substantially lower rate when a surfer wants to cancel to try to keep them from cancelling.

[SteveLightspeed]

Originally Posted by aico

Most sites actually offer a substantially lower rate when a surfer wants to cancel to try to keep them from cancelling.

Stupid, imo. Why would you train surfers to cancel their memberships for a better deal?

[MikeSmoke]

Originally Posted by FunkyDog

So what about this:

On each site have these join options:

A ) Just the site (for example 20 us$/month)
B ) Both sites with reduction (for example 35 us$/month)

Put that on BOTH sites, CCBILL can do that. If they choose the second one (both sites) then their membership will cancell for both sites if they don't renew.

That's actually one of my fallback options - but both of the sites are well-known in the specific surfer community that joins them. People come and go from both. but many more people join site A (a bigger, better site) and stay for longer. My goal is primarily to get more people to stay longer at site B, and I'm reluctant to "require" them to cancel site A in order to cancel their cut-rate membership to site B. So what I'd really like to do is find a way to make it a "special offer" just for members of site A - without giving them a backdoor (joining site A for one month) to keep the cheap rate for site B indefinitely.

It's definitely a possibility though, if I don't come up with other options.

[MikeSmoke]

Originally Posted by aico

I would let them keep the reduced membership rate (0+0=0).

That would make sense, except as I mentioned above, the members already "know" about both sites, and many do join site B as a standalone at the regular price - so I don't necessarily want to give them a backdoor way to join the site they really want for a bargain, when they would normally pay full price to join it as a standalone.

[MikeSmoke]

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Stupid, imo. Why would you train surfers to cancel their memberships for a better deal?

I agree in many cases - yours for example, where your sites are branded, well-known and have tons of return type-in visitors. (Or mine, where it's the same fetish community which knows about all the major sites.)
But if you're talking about someone's "lonesome" paysite, where they come across it by accident once and probably would never find it again in a million years, I can see how the discount might make sense.

[MikeSmoke]

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[DaddyHalbucks]

Create an All Access site. That way you can add new sites easily.