who runs this scam site? - GoFuckYourself.com

Persignup Qon · 12-27-2006, 04:20 AM

sorry, i haven't done any research yet.... but who owns this site?

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You asked for information about dead or bad sites. So here goes.

I read your review of the site www.gayblackdudes.com and having looked at the site's front page, which promised black gay content, I decided to sign up. I was disappointed - to say the least - to find that, having paid my money, when I returned to enter the site through the members' entrance, I was automatically sent to a site called His First Gay Experience - one of those sites where "straight" guys are "tricked" into gay sex. Not the advertised site at all. And the customer support e-mail address I contacted to complain has not replied. Big surprise, huh?

So I suggest you delete this site or even better post a warning to your readers that it is not going to give them what they are paying for!

If you have any ideas about how to pursue people running fraudulent operations like this one, I would be very grateful for advice.

Yours,

XXXX

aico · 12-27-2006, 04:27 AM

slickcash

NemesiS876 · 12-27-2006, 04:27 AM

Don't know

Persignup Qon · 12-27-2006, 04:31 AM

is this the kinda shit sponsors think is ok?

aico · 12-27-2006, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Persignup Qon

is this the kinda shit sponsors think is ok?

well, did you even verify it was true?

Persignup Qon · 12-27-2006, 04:41 AM

i run onprobation.com as u know, a links site... i don't get emails that often but when i do, the surfer isn't taking the time to email me just to tell me a lie. they are pissed and want to get it off their chest.... its thats simple.

Roald · 12-27-2006, 05:21 AM

Second sentence in the email: "I read your review of the site www.gayblackdudes.com" So if you reviewed it shouldn't you have noticed it?

What did slickcash say about this?

FunkyDog · 12-27-2006, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by QuaShe

Second sentence in the email: "I read your review of the site www.gayblackdudes.com" So if you reviewed it shouldn't you have noticed it?

What did slickcash say about this?

What he said.

Barefootsies · 12-27-2006, 05:32 AM

Pete-KT · 12-27-2006, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by QuaShe

Second sentence in the email: "I read your review of the site www.gayblackdudes.com" So if you reviewed it shouldn't you have noticed it?

What did slickcash say about this?

Ya if you reviewed it, wouldnt you of already known that? or do you just review without lookin at the members area?

maxcarter101 · 12-27-2006, 05:55 AM

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

Persignup Qon · 12-27-2006, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by QuaShe

Second sentence in the email: "I read your review of the site www.gayblackdudes.com" So if you reviewed it shouldn't you have noticed it?

What did slickcash say about this?

we don't "review" sites... we make colorful comments upon visiting the tour (OP has never been a "review" site). anything else about ME? lol

Roald · 12-27-2006, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Persignup Qon

we don't "review" sites... we make colorful comments upon visiting the tour (OP has never been a "review" site). anything else about ME? lol

Hey I am just reading that email you posted. Don't you check sites before you promote them and make colorful comments about it?

Just replying on your post/thread so don't blame me if you don't like what I say. Thank you!

Persignup Qon · 12-27-2006, 07:11 AM

nah its all good.... legit questions. we link every site from loads of affiliate programs in the directory, and no we don't do a quality check on each one. our primary traffic goes out to advertisers in prime locations on the site. the comments we make are just for entertainment and this is explained in detail on the main page at OP. i hope that answers your questions.

pr0 · 12-27-2006, 07:30 AM

did you check out the claims put forward by this guy?

or are you on here bitching because of a surfers e-mail?

Cyndalie · 12-27-2006, 07:33 AM

He could have gotten hit by a pop and thought he was redirected.

Persignup Qon · 12-27-2006, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0

did you check out the claims put forward by this guy?

or are you on here bitching because of a surfers e-mail?

hmmm... i don't hate my surfers, i listen to them. i don't understand your attitude. btw, i'm not bitching, read the original thread, i just asked a question. its been answered... move along.

pr0 · 12-27-2006, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Persignup Qon

hmmm... i don't hate my surfers, i listen to them. i don't understand your attitude. btw, i'm not bitching, read the original thread, i just asked a question. its been answered... move along.

heres my attitude torward surfers, i love them, they pay my bills

but their also idiots when it comes to technology

they sign up for a site, then go inside the members area, buy an up sell & somehow think their still in the same site

or a pop up hits them, & they think thats the entrance etc.

I did SOLE customer support for a multi-million dollar adult company for over a year, i think i know exactly what I'm talking about

sometimes, non members even bitch about the content available, they say they've signed up, yet you go look & sure enough....they havn't.....

pr0 · 12-27-2006, 08:07 AM

plus you have to factor in malware which could easily be a culprit for such a thing

i mean the variables are so high, even starting a conversation like this could be seen by most people as an unprovoked attack on a program

fris · 12-27-2006, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Persignup Qon

i run onprobation.com as u know, a links site... i don't get emails that often but when i do, the surfer isn't taking the time to email me just to tell me a lie. they are pissed and want to get it off their chest.... its thats simple.

little offtopic, do you know how i can reach insane adult creations, been trying for a while now.

Persignup Qon · 12-27-2006, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0

plus you have to factor in malware which could easily be a culprit for such a thing

i mean the variables are so high, even starting a conversation like this could be seen by most people as an unprovoked attack on a program

i'll leave your perceptions to you.... i didn't attack the program, as i posted initially, i didn't even look at the site. read the email, posted here. i don't immediately upsell my customers on my paysites as i don't think thats a smart way to run one. perhaps it means more money and enables programs to pay per signup.... exposing tactics like this (no matter who runs the sites) hopefully makes service to customers better. that's always been my position on running adult sites... a little integrity goes a long way and a lot of cats let greed affect their methods in running sites. hey, maybe i'm just old school and like PLEASING customers 100%. *shrug*

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maxcarter101 · 12-27-2006, 08:18 AM

This thread is booooorrrrriiiinnng.

Persignup Qon · 12-27-2006, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by maxcarter101

This thread is booooorrrrriiiinnng.

find your excitement in a "would u hit this thread" .... surfer

RawAlex · 12-27-2006, 11:17 AM

Not any different from any number of sponsors that badge engineer front ends for sites, buy 3 sets of content, and make that the "feature"... and then everything else in the site was a common backend for all their sites.

There are many programs out there with hundreds of sites and little or no actual on niche content for those sites.

Only good on pay per signup programs... retention has to be the shits.

Persignup Qon · 12-27-2006, 11:29 AM

i'll never run my sites like that dude... fuck that

will76 · 12-27-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Persignup Qon

sorry, i haven't done any research yet.... but who owns this site?

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You asked for information about dead or bad sites. So here goes.

I read your review of the site www.gayblackdudes.com and having looked at the site's front page, which promised black gay content, I decided to sign up. I was disappointed - to say the least - to find that, having paid my money, when I returned to enter the site through the members' entrance, I was automatically sent to a site called His First Gay Experience - one of those sites where "straight" guys are "tricked" into gay sex. Not the advertised site at all. And the customer support e-mail address I contacted to complain has not replied. Big surprise, huh?

So I suggest you delete this site or even better post a warning to your readers that it is not going to give them what they are paying for!

If you have any ideas about how to pursue people running fraudulent operations like this one, I would be very grateful for advice.

Yours,

XXXX

Ok I will point out the obvious since apparently no one else wants to or either decided not to.

if you really wanted to just know who owned : www.gayblackdudes.com and you didn't want to discuss the contents of the email you received, then why did you post the email ? You said who owns this site, and then posted a book. Why didn't you say who owned this site " www.gayblackdudes.com " if that is all you wanted to know. So don't act surprised or defensive people are making comments about the email and how you handled it.

Chill out a little.

will76 · 12-27-2006, 01:47 PM

BTW, great title.

"who runs this scam site?"

I am sorry but you are either a moron or a drama whore or both. How long have you had that site listed on your link index ? I would bet it's been there a while. So all this time you apparently have not received any complaints on this site from your surfers. Because if you did you would have pulled it right away since you

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like PLEASING customers 100%.

So you have a site that has been listed on your link index for a long time and gets no complaints. You get 1 complaint from 1 surfer and you come on here making a post with the title " who runs this scam site?" no one complained to you all this time, 1 person complains and you call the site a scam.

So which is it, are you a moron or drama whore ? (or option C, both).

After Shock Media · 12-27-2006, 02:01 PM

Im sorry but Qons traffic kicks serious ass and I think this is due to that he does listen to the users who take the time to write an email. I would imagine for every person that writes one at least ten do not (if not many more).

will76 · 12-27-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Im sorry but Qons traffic kicks serious ass and I think this is due to that he does listen to the users who take the time to write an email. I would imagine for every person that writes one at least ten do not (if not many more).

I would say for every 1 that writes there is probably 1000 that don't.

It's great if he is responsive to his customers, I just don't see how bashing a sponsor on here because he got one complaint in years about that site is accomplishing anything. And then trying to play it off as he was just trying to find out who owned the site....

The Ghost · 12-27-2006, 05:56 PM

I think this is a sign for you to start a solo site Q'on

The original site looks like old Bacchus gay scenes. You can put one together for yourself if you think it's worth it Q.

Phoenix · 12-27-2006, 06:23 PM

how can i get some of your golden traffic Qon?

aico · 12-27-2006, 06:31 PM

Might want to check some of your links, seems that your CCBill partner account has been suspended....

Persignup Qon · 12-27-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Im sorry but Qons traffic kicks serious ass and I think this is due to that he does listen to the users who take the time to write an email. I would imagine for every person that writes one at least ten do not (if not many more).

hunh? i'm just a drama whore.... what are u talkin bout?

... thanks for the heads up on the ccbill links, i'll look into it

aico · 12-27-2006, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Persignup Qon

hunh? i'm just a drama whore.... what are u talkin bout?

... thanks for the heads up on the ccbill links, i'll look into it

it was the asian solo site I clicked.

Persignup Qon · 12-27-2006, 06:47 PM

actually i asked ccbill to close accounts that didn't show a sale for 6+ months... removing the dead links now ;)

SomeCreep · 12-27-2006, 07:01 PM

Gayblackdudes.com is a really old slickcash.com site. As you can see on slickcash.com, they dont even have it listed. They dumped all their old sites a while back, switched to NATS, and built a new portfolio of exclusive sites. I didnt think they even gave credit for signups sent to their old sites. I'd pull all those old links a.s.a.p if I were you.

Persignup Qon · 12-27-2006, 07:09 PM

actually i just dumped 100+ ccbill links.... lots of links are comin down here shortly... time to push some people off the gravy train

will76 · 12-27-2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Persignup Qon

hunh? i'm just a drama whore.... what are u talkin bout?

... thanks for the heads up on the ccbill links, i'll look into it

moron was the other option

12-27-2006, 04:31 AM	#4
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12-27-2006, 07:11 AM	#14
Persignup Qon Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: HeLL Posts: 853	nah its all good.... legit questions. we link every site from loads of affiliate programs in the directory, and no we don't do a quality check on each one. our primary traffic goes out to advertisers in prime locations on the site. the comments we make are just for entertainment and this is explained in detail on the main page at OP. i hope that answers your questions. __________________ OnProbation.com \| PerSignup.com - Now Paying PPS and RevShare! {{ Portfolio: TKME \| AC \| BGDINT \| ESP - More Here... }} If You Really Get Paid in Adult, You Should Be Getting Paid By Us!

12-27-2006, 04:27 AM	#2
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12-27-2006, 05:55 AM	#11
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12-27-2006, 07:30 AM	#15
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12-27-2006, 08:07 AM	#19
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12-27-2006, 08:18 AM	#22
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12-27-2006, 11:17 AM	#24
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Not any different from any number of sponsors that badge engineer front ends for sites, buy 3 sets of content, and make that the "feature"... and then everything else in the site was a common backend for all their sites. There are many programs out there with hundreds of sites and little or no actual on niche content for those sites. Only good on pay per signup programs... retention has to be the shits.

12-27-2006, 11:29 AM	#25
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12-27-2006, 07:01 PM	#36
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12-27-2006, 07:09 PM	#37
Persignup Qon Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: HeLL Posts: 853	actually i just dumped 100+ ccbill links.... lots of links are comin down here shortly... time to push some people off the gravy train __________________ OnProbation.com \| PerSignup.com - Now Paying PPS and RevShare! {{ Portfolio: TKME \| AC \| BGDINT \| ESP - More Here... }} If You Really Get Paid in Adult, You Should Be Getting Paid By Us!