Saturday SlicksNetwork/DirectNic Update !

[Slick]

Now that I know the story on your end, I should start off by saying, DirectNic, I'm sorry for what has happend here. You received a complaint against me for having illegal content on my pages, so you firstly sent me an email for me to verify it, giving me a chance to prove myself. When I got the email, at first I didn't realize who it was from and with the demand for model ids, I figured I'd bring it up over here to verify the validity of the email and also find out who Intercosmos was. Well, that lit a fire over here. While it was growing here, my attorney sent you an email and you offered a solution to verify a few of the girls on one of my sites, so we could put this behind us and move on with things.

Well, during that time, all hell broke loose on this board and everywhere else, after seeing that I went public and started a fire, you thought "Screw this guy, we're trying to work things out with him, and he's gone public" (in other words) so you cut off negotiations and shut my sites down. You know, if i was you, I would've done the same exact thing. I'm sure anybody here would have.

Yesterday, we got some negotiations going with Mr. Nance which he offered to open up all but the 5 main offending sites, while I work on a few things. One of sites that was in those 5 was my biggest site, Amateur Curves. After my attorney explained how important that site was to my network, Mr. Nance was nice enough to allow that site to re-open, and I do greatly appreciate that. Naughty Thoughts, Filthy Brats, Major Pervert, and Really Eighteen are the 4 sites that are still down.

So again, I have to apologize and say to everyone on here, that I was wrong in bringing this to the board, I should've waited it out and found out more through email. I always figured that GFY is the place to find out information on everything. If I just would've kept if off of here, we would've worked it out and everything would've been fine. Neither of us would have had a tarnished repuation. I'd also like to thank DirectNic for working with me, even after all the stuff that's been flung around on here, they offered to get things patched up between us.

I guess this whole ordeal has opened my eyes a little bit. I guess when you're doing what you're doing for so long, you don't always notice things until another set of eyes is looking at it. Ya know, I never received ONE single complaint directly to me about the girls on any of my pages, NOT EVEN ONE. Then it comes up here and half the board does have a problem with what's on there. Like I stated from the start, I've only used legit sponsors, so I assumed that all was fine because the galleries came from repitable sponsors, not really thinking of the fact that some girls might look too young and offend someone.

So, I guess for me, it's time for change. I'm going through all of my sites, even the non-DirectNic registered sites and I'm looking for content that could be considered "young looking" and deleting it. I will also be going through my trades on a more timely basis to see if I can find anything bad. I might eventually hire someone to manage the trades for me. I offered this challenge a couple of times before for someone to point out to me any content on my sites that they feel is inappropriate or trades that they feel contain CP, but ya know, I never got one single email or ICQ.

I'm not gonna sit here and comment anymore on the matter. I guess that's what got me into this problem to begin with. I should've followed my bud's saying, "There's nothing I never said, that's ever come back to hurt me".

I just wanted to let all of you know what's going on since people are seeing my sites back up and probably wondering what's going on. Hopefully we can get this situation put behind us and move on with with business.

[Jakke PNG]

Originally Posted by Slick

So, I guess for me, it's time for change. I'm going through all of my sites, even the non-DirectNic registered sites and I'm looking for content that could be considered "young looking" and deleting it. I will also be going through my trades on a more timely basis to see if I can find anything bad. I might eventually hire someone to manage the trades for me. I offered this challenge a couple of times before for someone to point out to me any content on my sites that they feel is inappropriate or trades that they feel contain CP, but ya know, I never got one single email or ICQ.

Good call. Hopefully your prod% and traffic doesn't die, since I know for a fact those 'bad' thumbs get the most clicks. Hopefully you get it all sorted out with all parties.

[LA Mike]

Originally Posted by Slick

Now that I know the story on your end, I should start off by saying, DirectNic, I'm sorry for what has happend here. You received a complaint against me for having illegal content on my pages, so you firstly sent me an email for me to verify it, giving me a chance to prove myself. When I got the email, at first I didn't realize who it was from and with the demand for model ids, I figured I'd bring it up over here to verify the validity of the email and also find out who Intercosmos was. Well, that lit a fire over here. While it was growing here, my attorney sent you an email and you offered a solution to verify a few of the girls on one of my sites, so we could put this behind us and move on with things.

Well, during that time, all hell broke loose on this board and everywhere else, after seeing that I went public and started a fire, you thought "Screw this guy, we're trying to work things out with him, and he's gone public" (in other words) so you cut off negotiations and shut my sites down. You know, if i was you, I would've done the same exact thing. I'm sure anybody here would have.

Yesterday, we got some negotiations going with Mr. Nance which he offered to open up all but the 5 main offending sites, while I work on a few things. One of sites that was in those 5 was my biggest site, Amateur Curves. After my attorney explained how important that site was to my network, Mr. Nance was nice enough to allow that site to re-open, and I do greatly appreciate that. Naughty Thoughts, Filthy Brats, Major Pervert, and Really Eighteen are the 4 sites that are still down.

So again, I have to apologize and say to everyone on here, that I was wrong in bringing this to the board, I should've waited it out and found out more through email. I always figured that GFY is the place to find out information on everything. If I just would've kept if off of here, we would've worked it out and everything would've been fine. Neither of us would have had a tarnished repuation. I'd also like to thank DirectNic for working with me, even after all the stuff that's been flung around on here, they offered to get things patched up between us.

I guess this whole ordeal has opened my eyes a little bit. I guess when you're doing what you're doing for so long, you don't always notice things until another set of eyes is looking at it. Ya know, I never received ONE single complaint directly to me about the girls on any of my pages, NOT EVEN ONE. Then it comes up here and half the board does have a problem with what's on there. Like I stated from the start, I've only used legit sponsors, so I assumed that all was fine because the galleries came from repitable sponsors, not really thinking of the fact that some girls might look too young and offend someone.

So, I guess for me, it's time for change. I'm going through all of my sites, even the non-DirectNic registered sites and I'm looking for content that could be considered "young looking" and deleting it. I will also be going through my trades on a more timely basis to see if I can find anything bad. I might eventually hire someone to manage the trades for me. I offered this challenge a couple of times before for someone to point out to me any content on my sites that they feel is inappropriate or trades that they feel contain CP, but ya know, I never got one single email or ICQ.

I'm not gonna sit here and comment anymore on the matter. I guess that's what got me into this problem to begin with. I should've followed my bud's saying, "There's nothing I never said, that's ever come back to hurt me".

I just wanted to let all of you know what's going on since people are seeing my sites back up and probably wondering what's going on. Hopefully we can get this situation put behind us and move on with with business.

GL getting your shit straightened out!

[WarChild]

Before anybody jumps in here and says you should hold out, prove a point, stand your ground etc etc, I'd remind them to consider how far you'd go if your main source if income was wiped out in one fell swoop.

Do what you have to do Slick.

[mikeet]

Hey Slick, hope everything works out for you man.

[Nookster]

Well, it's good to see you're back in business man. But still, the fact of the matter is they closed your sites without proof of illegal content. I'de still sue.

[BoyAlley]

Mr. Nance was nice enough to allow that site to re-open

I'm glad you're happy with how things are working out for your particular situation.

In my eyes, that does NOTHING to change the fact that DirectNic shut you down in the first place, nor the fact that they continue to keep several of your sites down until you meet their arbitrary "content standards".

That's NOT the place of a registrar. PERIOD!

Now as this thread is about to get filled with praises of joy from MikeAI's Retard Squad, I'll leave my comments at that.

[SiMpLe]

Great post Slick - I'm glad its working itself out and still if you need anything from me just hit me up.

[RawAlex]

Slick, great posts, a commendable mea culpa that shows me anyway that you now very clearly understand that to whatever extent, your own actions may have brought this on you. Work hard to clean up your stuff and get the things settled with Directnic, and then move on an grow your business

Boyalley, all I can say to you is give it a rest. You have proven that the only retards around here are the ones that jump to conclusions long before all the information is out there.

[Evil1]

once you get the domains back and hopefully moved sue the fuck out of them for every penny you lost.

[CDSmith]

I had faith that things would eventually start to turn and work out for you Slick.

Good luck. :D

[jeffrey]

Good Luck Slick.

Originally Posted by Nookster

Well, it's good to see you're back in business man. But still, the fact of the matter is they closed your sites without proof of illegal content. I'de still sue.

I'd be sueing too.

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

In my eyes, that does NOTHING to change the fact that DirectNic shut you down in the first place, nor the fact that they continue to keep several of your sites down until you meet their arbitrary "content standards".

That's NOT the place of a registrar. PERIOD!

Now as this thread is about to get filled with praises of joy from MikeAI's Retard Squad, I'll leave my comments at that.

I will NEVER register a domain with DirectNIC, and will never recomend them to anyone.

I still hope people transfer away from them.

[Dirty F]

I will never ever again reg a domain at Directnic.

[Dirty F]

Cant believe how you even apologize to them. Crazy.

[psili]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Before anybody jumps in here and says you should hold out, prove a point, stand your ground etc etc, I'd remind them to consider how far you'd go if your main source if income was wiped out in one fell swoop.

Do what you have to do Slick.

Just wanted to bump WarChild's post to serve as a reality check for others talking their "almighty" crap.

[Gambit]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Before anybody jumps in here and says you should hold out, prove a point, stand your ground etc etc, I'd remind them to consider how far you'd go if your main source if income was wiped out in one fell swoop.

Do what you have to do Slick.

agree 100%

[lucky1]

Originally Posted by Slick

So, I guess for me, it's time for change. I'm going through all of my sites, even the non-DirectNic registered sites and I'm looking for content that could be considered "young looking" and deleting it. I will also be going through my trades on a more timely basis to see if I can find anything bad.

Good to hear and best of luck.

[Alky]

What do you all expect him to do, tell them to fuck off?

He never should have brought it to the boards in the first place anyhow.

[John69]

Originally Posted by Alky

What do you all expect him to do, tell them to fuck off?

He never should have brought it to the boards in the first place anyhow.

i can agree with that.

[HostGladiator]

Slick, if you seriously want to hire someone to go through your trades and weed stuff out for you then hit me up on ICQ or email.

[selena]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Before anybody jumps in here and says you should hold out, prove a point, stand your ground etc etc, I'd remind them to consider how far you'd go if your main source if income was wiped out in one fell swoop.

Do what you have to do Slick.

[Pete-KT]

goodwork slick, hope to talk to you soon about some stuff

[12clicks]

just so I understand.
DN was not directed by any law enforcement agency to shut down your sites and because you posted on a chat board about it, they decided to remove the grace period they offered to clear things up, thereby basically putting you out of business.

do I have that right?

[Trax]

why the hell are you apologizing? lol

[Theo]

glad your network is back

[Jakke PNG]

Originally Posted by Trax

why the hell are you apologizing? lol

I'd assume it's because he'd like to keep his network online?

[Linguist]

DirectNIC should not have jurisdiction over this. According to safe harbour provision, they should put the material down when they receive a notification, but must also restore it once they receive a written note from Slick - NOT proof, just a signatory note. After this, if shit hits the fan, it's Slick's fault.

They did the wrong thing, Slick's business is hurting, and he should not be apologising. They should be.

Edit: im not a lawyer, consult your local legal authority

[rhizome]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

just so I understand.
DN was not directed by any law enforcement agency to shut down your sites and because you posted on a chat board about it, they decided to remove the grace period they offered to clear things up, thereby basically putting you out of business.

do I have that right?

Sounds like they took a page from your book

[rhizome]

Although considering how dense Slick is it wouldn't surprise me if he got that part wrong and just opened up a new can of worms.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by rhizome

Sounds like they took a page from your book

only because intelligence is your second language.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

just so I understand.
DN was not directed by any law enforcement agency to shut down your sites and because you posted on a chat board about it, they decided to remove the grace period they offered to clear things up, thereby basically putting you out of business.

do I have that right?

I bet that sounds familiar to you right

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Linguist

DirectNIC should not have jurisdiction over this. According to safe harbour provision, they should put the material down when they receive a notification, but must also restore it once they receive a written note from Slick - NOT proof, just a signatory note. After this, if shit hits the fan, it's Slick's fault.

They did the wrong thing, Slick's business is hurting, and he should not be apologising. They should be.

Edit: im not a lawyer, consult your local legal authority

People its in their TOS he agreed to, end of story. This sue them and they didnt have the authority. The TOS he agreed to stated they did. Also if we dont start policing ourselves for this type shit ,its going to get worse. WAKE UP !

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by Franck

I bet that sounds familiar to you right

not really. When we caught you cheating our program we had proof.

[Dennis69]

Glad to see your are getting things worked out man After this is all said and done then sue DN... Karma is a bitch!

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Dennis69

Glad to see your are getting things worked out man After this is all said and done then sue DN... Karma is a bitch!

for what doing what their tos states they would do ? lol

[aico]

Way to take one for the Team, Slick. Sorry at what it cost you, but, you did a great service in bringing out some facts about how some companies do business.

Best of luck to you. I don't think you did anything wrong by bringing your question here, it's their policy that caused the problem for themselves, not you bringing it to the attention of others.

[Icy]

Good to see your sites online Slick, I'll reserve my opinion on the Directnic issue and how they acted with you. It seems that you have done what had to be done to keep your business running, well done no matter what others will say.

As much as we all love heroes to fight the system, it's easier to ask others to do it than to do it ourselves when our business and life can be ruined.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Slick, great posts, a commendable mea culpa that shows me anyway that you now very clearly understand that to whatever extent, your own actions may have brought this on you. Work hard to clean up your stuff and get the things settled with Directnic, and then move on an grow your business

Boyalley, all I can say to you is give it a rest. You have proven that the only retards around here are the ones that jump to conclusions long before all the information is out there.

Another member of the "Retards Giving Annilingus to DirectNic" squad agrees.

Best of luck, Slick.

[NoComments]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

just so I understand.
DN was not directed by any law enforcement agency to shut down your sites and because you posted on a chat board about it, they decided to remove the grace period they offered to clear things up, thereby basically putting you out of business.

do I have that right?

yeap, just like Brad Shaw has done with Dave Purehardcore who let him live in peace, after the aplogy AND $25,000, sold him content business and now Brad has more money than you.

Slick learns from the best


12 clicks, what can one learn from the pornographer who started in 1997 and has to come back into porn?

Will you question my intelligence too? My cable box broke, I have time, make my day...if you can.

[pocketkangaroo]

The biggest lesson here is not to register adult domains with DirectNic.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

just so I understand.
DN was not directed by any law enforcement agency to shut down your sites and because you posted on a chat board about it, they decided to remove the grace period they offered to clear things up, thereby basically putting you out of business.

do I have that right?

Yes you do. But hey, the guys at DirectNic have bought a few beers for people here over the years so all is good.

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

The biggest lesson here is not to register adult domains with DirectNic.

I guess I will say this before Serge:

If this is the only thing you learned here, you need to go back to school.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

I guess I will say this before Serge:

If this is the only thing you learned here, you need to go back to school.

I didn't say only, I said biggest. I couldn't fathom anyone using them as a registrar in adult.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I didn't say only, I said biggest. I couldn't fathom anyone using them as a registrar in adult.

I can't fathom having a TGP and not checking links.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by Peaches

I can't fathom having a TGP and not checking links.

I couldn't either.

[NoComments]

Raw Alex,
this kangaroo moron is right.

DirectNic should have reported Slick to FBI, like the imbecilles here suggested, and have Slick jump thru the hoops with the juries of his peers and government agencies.

Oh well, there is a reason why the imbecilles will never get smarter-
genetic.

On the other hand, with 1000 domains transfered, Directnic has lost whoapping $1946 and 89 cents. No more year end bonuses, nada, zilch, GFY has put them on their niz!

[pornonada]

Originally Posted by Franck

Cant believe how you even apologize to them. Crazy.

why not. For me it sounds like a deal that was made and the whole post sounds like dictated either from a DirectNic or his Lawyer, however I have full understanding for it and all over in this exact position i guess we all would do it, so nothing really bad there. Just understand his position.

[NoComments]

no, Slick should have fought 'til the end, with kangaroo's $24 donation, take it to the Supreme Court and have turn his battle into a movie.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

just so I understand.
DN was not directed by any law enforcement agency to shut down your sites and because you posted on a chat board about it, they decided to remove the grace period they offered to clear things up, thereby basically putting you out of business.

do I have that right?

You have that exactly right.. You're so smart sometimes hon!

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by Peaches

I can't fathom having a TGP and not checking links.

It's a very long and involved process to check every single trade when you have a large network. Something that needs to be done, but it's not a simple process, and it's fairly easy to miss stuff that isn't prominent.