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Old 12-17-2006, 01:23 PM   #51
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:39 PM   #52
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Thank god americans are so fucked up when it comes to nudity or we all would be broke.
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:53 PM   #53
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What does Chico State Basketball, Hewlett Packard, and a police academy have to do with Christians? Please enlighten me.
The same sort of primitive judgmental thinking, or so it would seem.

Those girls did absolutely nothing wrong and anyone who doesn't have his head jammed up his own ass knows it.
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Thank god americans are so fucked up when it comes to nudity or we all would be broke.
That's true. And it's an excellent point.

However, we should be getting a lot of muslims buying porn from us, by that logic.
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Old 12-17-2006, 02:01 PM   #55
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The same sort of primitive judgmental thinking, or so it would seem.

Those girls did absolutely nothing wrong and anyone who doesn't have his head jammed up his own ass knows it.
and you just know each and every one of those who passed judgement/fired/etc has enjoyed porn at one time.
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That's true. And it's an excellent point.

However, we should be getting a lot of muslims buying porn from us, by that logic.
What kind of billing options do we have for the middle east, btw? Seems like there really isn't anything. Maybe we would have all the talibaners buying from us if we could figure out how to bill these countries?
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Old 12-17-2006, 02:08 PM   #57
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Unfortunately it's true.

When you're applying for law enforcement cops start showing up talking to your friends. When I applied for the CHP several years ago I had coworkers letting me know the cops had been asking questions about me. It happens, my friend.
I am sorry, but did this come as some kind of a surprise to you? What do you think a background check consists of? Why do you think they ask for names of friends?
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Old 12-17-2006, 02:18 PM   #59
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I am sorry, but did this come as some kind of a surprise to you? What do you think a background check consists of? Why do you think they ask for names of friends?
Well, I for one would like to think a background check is about looking for relevant and important things, not the sort of utter nonsense being discussed here. Then again perhaps my expectations were too high.
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Old 12-17-2006, 02:24 PM   #60
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Actually, no. People think you've lost your mind because you think some imaginery higher power guides your life.
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Old 12-17-2006, 02:31 PM   #61
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sucks for her... I guess she should go back to modelling to pay for school then, and spend her extra time studying instead of playing basketball...
That pretty much sums it up right there....
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Old 12-17-2006, 02:33 PM   #62
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Well, I for one would like to think a background check is about looking for relevant and important things, not the sort of utter nonsense being discussed here. Then again perhaps my expectations were too high.
I think having posed nude for something is relevant in regard to public service. The adult industry's filled with scum and thus a public servant should be above such things as associating with scum.

I have my ideas about the adult industry, and even though I work on a lighter side of it, I still think it's a business filled with shady characters.

Perception's key, here.
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Old 12-17-2006, 02:34 PM   #63
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Old 12-17-2006, 02:42 PM   #64
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First they'll kick her off the team. She's waiting to find out about that now. If they do kick her off, she'll also lose her scholarship.

Not too long ago, another of my models lost a job at Hewlett Packard after they found out she'd posed for me. Violated their morality clause.

Also, another of my models was kicked out of the police academy once the background check revealed that she'd posed for me. She'd wanted to be a cop all her life. Now that is not an option.

These are just a few of the reasons I had to face the fact that the way I was making my living was selfish.
yes being a cop is soo much better - woops, forgot as a cop you can ruin someone's life and travel abaility by charging them with one joint.

i can go on about most any job too.


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I think having posed nude for something is relevant in regard to public service. The adult industry's filled with scum and thus a public servant should be above such things as associating with scum.

I have my ideas about the adult industry, and even though I work on a lighter side of it, I still think it's a business filled with shady characters.

Perception's key, here.

obvilusly you've never worked in mainstream

where companies like zango are legit and praised just as an example
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It's easy to pass judgement on other people. It's much more difficult to pass judgement on yourself, AND be honest about it.

While I believe that you're attempting to pass judgement on yourself Donny for your "past life", I'm not sure you're being totally honest with yourself. You're taking responsibility for these women's lost opportunities, and that's noble, but I believe misguided.

The problem here isn't that YOU took the photos, OR that the women posed naked. The problem is with those in authority who are able to mandate their own moral judgements and insist that everyone live by those rules or be punished for not doing so. If they don't find it acceptable for themselves or their children, fine. Teach them that. But to FORCE that belief or choice on others through mandating is simply wrong and WILL one day be challenged and defeated. Hopefully it's in my lifetime. I hazard to guess that religious types wouldn't appreciate an athiest in charge of any organization believing it immoral for it's employees or students to attend church and subsequently punishing them for doing so. That wouldn't get too far without a lawsuit of some kind. Yet those same religious types who would scream for THEIR rights in regards to freedom of religion or freedom of choice have absolutely no problem infringing on everyone else's rights by telling us what we're allowed or not allowed to do according to their own moral agenda...not even something that's against the law.

And I'm sorry Donny, but whether you choose to believe it or not this IS in fact a religious argument. I don't begrudge you or anyone else the right to believe in god or whatever you choose to, but at least be honest about it and admit that their views are, in many cases, skewed at best for very self serving purposes.

An article you may find interesting if you haven't seen it...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/13/bak...ary/index.html

A couple more that should be pretty scary to non-religious types...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/ma...rssnyt&emc=rss

""Our football program can't change the culture," Falwell said. "Our debate program can, by producing advocates who know how to argue for Judeo-Christian ethics and the American Constitution. We have 32 kids on our team this year, and they'll all be lawyers or leaders of some sort. Our goal is to create an army of people who know how to make our case."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1419302.shtml

"These young people, for the rest of their lives, will be God's spokespersons," Falwell says.

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Well, I for one would like to think a background check is about looking for relevant and important things, not the sort of utter nonsense being discussed here. Then again perhaps my expectations were too high.
Then it is obvious you have never been subjected to a background check, it is pretty standard stuff.
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Then it is obvious you have never been subjected to a background check, it is pretty standard stuff.
so they are actually going to ask if the person has done nude modelling? seems strange.
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Hate to break it to you, but it wasn't like you put a gun to their head . . . or did you?

You can't be expected to to force feed logic to all your models, they have to bear the responsibility for their actions.

If they are too stupid to read the rules, or think ahead, then maybe they aren't smart enough to deserve a scholarship or be a cop.
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While I feel bad for her, it was still her decision to do it and I'm guessing break team rules. It's not your fault that she chose to do it, and her choices and life is really not your problem. Your line of thinking would have all bartenders quitting their jobs because occasionally their serving alcohol causes someone to drive drunk and kill someone.

But you've also helped out a lot of girls. How many girls did you help pay for college? How many girls were able to get degrees and move on to succesful lives because of your business?

Nonetheless, her life isn't over. The scholarship isn't for much and she can make up for it with a side job or some financial aid. It's not like she's the only college student who needs money.
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These are just a few of the reasons I had to face the fact that the way I was making my living was selfish.
I still can't believe you are for real. Do you ever read the stuff you write?
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so they are actually going to ask if the person has done nude modelling? seems strange.
I highly doubt that would be a specific question
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What Donny Falwell should have told his models:

There isn't anything wrong with posing nude and showing your body, unfortunately, because we live in a fucked up society ran by and influenced religious fundamentalist assholes who think they make the rules on "morality" and have the market cornered in that, when someone does find out that you worked in this industry you may very well lose mainstream work and education opportunities. You've got to decide whether or not you will be strong enough to handle the fall out when it does happen.

I hope every person here shooting is giving the models a lecture like this so they know that they are up against a world of religious fuckwits who take great pleasure in trying to destroy the lives of those they judge as "immoral." The models deserve to know the "Donnys" they will be up against should they take that step and decide to pose nude.
from what I am hearing Donny was never the nice pornographer type that tells girls what may happen when they take their clothes off for the camera, he was the slimey guy that convinced girls to get naked even when they had reservations about it...

from the way I understand things, if I was a slimey ass porno pervert like donny was, I would be born again too..
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I have my ideas about the adult industry, and even though I work on a lighter side of it, I still think it's a business filled with shady characters.
name one business that doesn't have shady characters

EVERY business does, and just as many too, we are just more close knit in adult due to the forums and interaction, so we see it much more
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I think Donny is focusing on the wrong thing. Women's collegiate sports scholarships are artificially supported by the money generated by men's collegiate football and basketball. Anything you can do to end this farce is a positive thing.
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Apparently Donny's past in front of the camera (as opposed to behind the camera), shooting porn with himself as a participant, hasn't affected his ability to score Christian gigs and other work.

In his own words:

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I talked a little about how Belinda has become rather secure in our relationship and has given me the okay to do work for clients which involves playing with the models myself.

So let's get right down to it: I've now tried it. A few times, actually.

I've shot a "Night Vision" sex scene, where the camera is set on a tripod in a dark room and set to night vision mode. This gives those being videotaped a green color, just like what you see in the movies when soldiers look through night vision glasses.

I've also tried a few other things that I'm not quite ready to write about. Nothing kinky. Just plain vanilla, really.
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Recently Belinda has said she's confident enough in our relationship that she'd be okay if I wanted to start shooting for some of the clients who need a POV (point of view) style approach.

Point of view involves the person holding the camera, shooting what he's doing to the model (or the model's doing to him) from his point of view. Get it?

One example of this would be the website Frosted Faces where models perform oral sex on the photographer while he videotapes them. And as the name implies, he "frosts" their faces at the end.

Being the prude that I am I've always considered "blowing one's load" on a model to be a bit disrespectful. This topic has come up in numerous conversations. You'd be surprised at the odd conversations I have with people. Nothing is too taboo to talk about. In these conversations I've discovered that some girls are actually turned on by such things. I don't understand why, but they are.

One model I've known for almost 4 years was recently telling me that not only does she like doing that, she also likes to have a guy ejaculate in her mouth. She won't "swallow" but still likes to feel that happen in her mouth.

This blows me away because Belinda doesn't even like going down, much less having a "loaded gun" go off in her mouth. But the two of us were joking about having me shoot a video of Jennifer going down on me, the joke became a bit more serious, and I ended up shooting that video.

I wasn't impressed by how the parts of me that show on video came out, so I didn't sell the video to my client. Instead I let John put it up in the member's area of Amateur Market. He makes fun of the size of certain parts of my anatomy, but oh well. That's all God gave me.
I haven't attended any of Donny's public speeches, but I kind of doubt that he includes the part about filming himself in porno movies, when he gives his testimony to church groups about being an ex-porno "photographer", and the evils of porn and how it hurts women.

I might even go if he did...although I can't promise I wouldn't bust out laughing when he mentions his small pee pee...

BTW, Donny's story about the basketball player may be true, but to me (absent corraboration) it smacks of BS. I wonder if he got the idea after reading that recently three members of the 11-member Chico State Women's basketball team, left the team. Two were kicked off by the coach, apparently due to their complaints about verbal abuse by the coach, and a third quit out of solidarity with the other two.

While the verbal abuse issue has made headlines, there is no mention I could find about a player facing suspension from the team for posing nude.

Wouldn't it be ironic if Donny was planting the story so that someone investigates and the girl gets kicked off the team, so he can have yet another story to add to his sermons about the evils of porn.

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Hewlett Packard, Police academy, and Chico State (a very liberal university) all have nothing to do with religion, my friend.

Are you saying that HP, your local police department and Chico State's policies have not been put in place by people who believe in (and most likely people who promote and/or advocate) "Christian Values"? That the entire board's of HP, your local police department and Chico State are all atheist and make their policies based on logic and not some fucked up religious perspective?

The likelyhood of that is about the same as there being a man in the sky who is watching over us. Come on man, I have been reading your posts for years, you may be a little whacky with the whole jesus thing but you didn't put a gun to anybody's head and force them to take their clothes off.

I realize there's a big herd mentality within religious groups but come the fuck on, the only way posing naked is going to come back and haunt your employability/schooling is if christian values are a part of their hiring/recruiting policies. This is just another example of people making decisions without taking into account the consequences. The problems these girls are having has absolutely nothing to do with you and everything to do with THEM.
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Good job, Donny!

You've ruined a few young women as a pornographer, and now you're on to something even better...

Now you can contribute as a "religious person" to the mass sexual hysteria that causes society to think that posing nude makes one a terrible, terrible person. Just identifying yourself as a "Christian" makes you complicit in that. Because everyone knows a good American Christian needs to be scared of nudity.

A person might look at your history and think that you have a strong need to cause pain. First, you did the harm you say you did as a pornographer. Then, when it fancies you, you decide to switch to the God side- and now you can cause harm and pain in the name of Jesus!

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from what I am hearing Donny was never the nice pornographer type that tells girls what may happen when they take their clothes off for the camera, he was the slimey guy that convinced girls to get naked even when they had reservations about it...

from the way I understand things, if I was a slimey ass porno pervert like donny was, I would be born again too..
I thought he was a nice pornographer. I mean what pornographer would be so willing to tell a model in outdoor shoot that she must of got dirt in her crack and be so nice to dip his camera cleaning tissue in the stream, so she could clean up and not embarrass her (from one of his post) even though he knew it was shit?

IMO, I think Donny is making things up to feel better about his choice of leaving the porn biz and is playing the guilt card.

Best wishes Donny, I doubt that every girl you shot will becoming to you saying you ruin their life unless YOU persue it
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:02 PM   #86
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You don't think this aversion towards pornography stems from religion?
Preach on brother. So much irony with this thread...
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:08 PM   #87
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well you reap what you sold eddie.... she was 18 when she shot
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:13 PM   #88
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ohhh man seriously shut the fuck up with your born-again Christian shit...

enough of your stupid ramblings already...don't like the business? think its the root of all evil? fair enough...just keep your idiocity out of GFY...

ironic you still find the need to lower to our standards and post your crap here...
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:17 PM   #89
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Donny, don't let the door hit your born again ass on the way out.

buh-bye.
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:27 PM   #90
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picture is where?
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:43 PM   #91
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Damn. I feel sorry for the chick, mate.
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:46 PM   #92
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they need to hire an attorney. And SUE the fucking shit out of the people that canned them from the program. If it happened prior, then to fucking bad.
They did not commit a crime.
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Hey Donny did you sell your website?
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Donny I dont believe you, I think you found this as a way to trash adult and without trashing it out right. Unless your models are telling the whole world what they did the odds of anyone finding is so rare. The net is a very very big place and add to it stage names I dont believe you.
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Old 12-17-2006, 08:24 PM   #95
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I get it. You are saying you are like as big as playboy.. offer a lotta of money to the girls and chances to become really famous like Jenny or Pamela Anderson so they come pose for you but then they get fired from their jobs like that NewYork cop chick did along with buncha other playmates! Wow man! Go Donny!
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Old 12-17-2006, 08:25 PM   #96
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Hey Donny did you sell your website?

Yes, i bought it from him over a year ago.
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Old 12-17-2006, 08:27 PM   #97
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That would be very difficult for her, sorry for her
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These are just a few of the reasons I had to face the fact that the way I was making my living was selfish.
stop trying to justify your decission. Unless you drugged them or tied them up and filmed them it isn't your fault. If they wanted to do porn they would have found someone else to shoot them. Be mad at the policies or people who are punishing them. It is not your fault. It is not porn's fault. If it is anyone's fault it is theirs for not knowing their work / scholarship policies. If they have a rule in place (morality clause) and they violated it then it is their fault.

it has nothing to do with being selfish.
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You'd be surprised what they find. Years ago I applied for the Highway Patrol academy. The officer doing my background check showed up in person to talk to some of my friends asking about me.
then maybe you need better friends.
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Fucked up and sad shit...
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