Yes, I am a complete moron for wishing potential child porn being reported to the authorities so that the individuals involved can be prosecuted and thrown in jail. While some may feel that DirectNic should be the police, I would imagine that the authorities would have a much better system for verifying ages and getting to the bottom of things.

For once I can agree with the point you are getting at..


Slick I'm guessing this statment is a forced one but I'd do what you have to do to get your names back, then I'd move my domains and sue the shit out of them.

Do you believe Google and Yahoo! should also have a verification system where sites are manually reviewed?

If Slick wants to have his current trades checked against the danish police´s CP site database, then I would like to help... in return I only ask that the suggested CP thumbs are changed on his sites.

Exactly one of the points why to choose registars that don't have such TOS's. Everyone who has readed the DirectNic TOS and compared it to other registars will see it's the whorst for a Domain Owner. There are maybe 189 points when they can cancel/terminate/delete/suspend your domain/account.
Not really something that makes you feel good and i would feel not very comfortable building up my business with a registrar who has 100 options to destroy a whole business with all rights (due their TOS) and you can't do anything.

Here's a little hint: The government doesn't hate Google and Yahoo. It hates pornographers. Ergo, we have to keep our noses a LOT cleaner. Honestly, I thought that was pretty much common knowledge.

Per Slick, 1/2 the people commenting here about his sites thought there was CP on his trades. A LOT of these were people FOR Slick and AGAINST DirectNic. Now, how come THOSE people had time to check those links and Slick, who could go to jail because of them, didn't?

I don't see why anyone would turn that down.. Hell you should make that a service, I can guarantee a lot of TGP/MGP owners would love to do that kind of search. Keeps their asses out of hot water too.

There have been many lessons, but i agree, everybody having domains with them should really take the time to read their TOS and maybe compare them with other Registars.

While so far i thought everybody has FULL contorl, ownership, property for his domain it seems it's registar/tos and national/state based decided what rights you have or not.

Everybody who wants at least to be sure that his registar has NO RIGHTS and DEMANDS for his domain(s) should really look for Registars like http://www.gandi.net which give you ALL RIGHTS and DO NOT demand any for them, means you have FULL ownership over your domain.

So Registar is not just Registar and TOS is not on all Registars the same TOS.

out of curiousity, what do you run in the adult biz?

I started out with 900 numbers back in 93 (and other audiotext numbers), then worked for a paysite cataloguing content, worked for what was then one of the top paysite companies doing surfer support, opened thousands (tens of thousands, really) of my own freesites, worked with another large paysite doing affiliate support, and now while still having a few thousand freesites, I'm focusing on non-adult.

I've had my own adult based biz since 93.

And you?

I guess I just feel that everyone should be held to the same standards. If linking to CP is bad, it should be bad for all sites that do it. The same goes for 2257. If we are doing it in our industry, EVERYONE should have to do it.

But I just wanted to see what your opinion on manual verification for all sites. So it's ok to link to CP if you're labeled a search engine, but not an adult site?

Yes, WE all feel that way. But guess what, it doesn't matter what a bunch of posters on GFY think. It matters what the government, a judge, and 12 people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty think.

Had DirectNic turned this directly over to the authorities, as SO many people have suggested, you can bet Slick would be out of pocket a lot more than 4 of his sites being down while waiting for a picture ID with a DOB.

kangaroo, does it really fucking matter? Worry about your own stuff, don't worry what google is linking to or not linking to. They have their laywers, and I am sure you have yours.

She worked for ron levy when he was doing audiotext...tried to make a living at free sites and got offered a pity job at wegcash, got shit canned for being a total fuck up, went on a stalking rampage looking for revenge and became the encyclopedia of all that is making money on the net even though she's said over and over she has no adult interest. That has kind of changed depending on when and where she is posting.

Gonzo, who is poor and some other creepy guy that runs a program you've never, nor ever will hear of, will attest to her marketing prowess.

She's insane. That's basically the end of it.

You just have to watch this http://www.cecash.com/agent69/ to understand winetalk. He's scourge. He made millions shaving clicks and selling the rest to red crescent which was the mafia.

But I think that is what the argument has really been about. Whether DirectNic should have been the one policing the site, or the authorities. I'm not saying DirectNic is bad for wanting to fight CP, I'm saying that they should have sent the complaints directly to the authorities before taking the law into their own hands.

If you get sick at a restaurant and suspect bad food, do you call the health department or their lanlord?

Everyone who supports DirectNic states that the sites should have been shut down for who they were linking to. I'm just asking why there isn't the same outrage for a site like Google that links to more CP than almost any site on the web.

Let's try again. I never once worked for Ron Levi in Audiotext. Ever. I worked for him at CE doing surfer support. He hired me because he was one of MY customers at the 900 company I worked with.

I've made more money doing freesites than I have doing anything else in the adult biz.

WEG offered me a consulting job doing affiliate support. I wanted to learn the paysite side of the biz, so I took it. When I found out Cory was my "manager", I stopped working for WEG within hours. I left on my own accord. I think the funniest thing is that before he knew I quit, he was asking people if I could afford to quit. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I've never done any business with Gonzo so I doubt he knows anything about my "marketing prowness". And since I've never done "marketing" in the adult biz, it's pretty much a moot point. Gonzo works with AEBN. I think some people have heard about it - hardly a company you've never or will never hear of.

Again, I still have my freesites, but I'm focusing on going back to school and investing in real estate. Real estate has so far been VERY good to me :)

And yes, I'm insane. People who've known me for my entire life will attest to that :upsidedow

Hey, Connectz - are you aeon? Did that username get banned?

I'am a poor webmaster just trying to make a good start somehow in this business :helpme :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Not me. I own connectz media. I think jason and zimm were too kind to you.

Well, hopefully you'll do well and won't be at the point where you have to look to GFY for trades :)

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...1#post11146311

Thank goodness when I was running my freesites fulltime I NEVER had to ask anyone for anything.

Best of luck to ya! :upsidedow

Jason and Zimm are the same person, genius - you must really know the company well :1orglaugh

If you think WEG was too kind to me, talk to them. I was at Vegas at a show and they searched me out and offered me a job. I took it. Had a great time working for Jason, Jordan, Christian and Amanda. Top people all the way! :thumbsup

Oh god here we go again, the SAME people having the SAME arguments... Are your lives really so dull and boring that you have to spend the last 3 days arguing the same points over and over again, non-stop...

"The Fool speaks, the wise man listens."

I'm headed out for the night - they'll have to argue amongst themselves :thumbsup

I think there should be a countdown on when 12Clicks comes in and calls me a "disgruntled ex-employee". :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
maybe you won't believe, or better realize, but this post makes you looking really funny and dumb and i could expose here my income and/or financial resources but it would make you feel more stupid as you are anyway.

If you think that a post where i looked for trades for the a tgp project is something you can laugh about ok, i have no problem with it because i myself laugh my ass off right now. :thumbsup

Amazing how all these Slick threads have turned into pissing contests :2 cents:

guys, just remember... when you are down to attacking the poster personally instead of debating what they have to say...

YOU ALREADY LOST.

Now get back to work.

Exactly. And I would have done the same, if it was my network and main income source.

Welcome to typos. I've had a few cocktails. It happens.

Let's say jason and jordan and unfortunately, john wasn't there at the time. I'm not going to spend my evening arguing who's better at board rhetoric. I think you were threatening to sue based on some labor laws, even though you were working as a contractor. That's the last I heard of it to be honest. You went completely insane and I lost interest.

You've pwned me. If this was an IRC channel you could dance around. It's reality so you just have to deal with the fact you were let go. If you send traffic to adult sponsors, they should be here singing your praises, serge isn't a sponsor anymore.

Who do you deal with on the adult side of things?

I don't feel stupid at all, so it's pretty impossible for me to feel MORE stupid :)

Honestly, I don't give a shit how much money you, Slick, or Donald Trump has. It has ZERO impact on my life. So laugh all you want. I hope it's enjoyable for you :)

I deal with the people I send traffic to and who send me checks in response :thumbsup Oddly I get about 3 ICQs a day about traffic but I've been pretty loyal to who I've sent traffic to over the years. And to be honest, I just let those freesites sit there. I rarely even look at them. I have bigger fish to fry.

I also deal with people who've either left adult completely or have non-adult stuff too with non-adult business.

No, I wasn't threatening anything. Per my attorney's instructions, I've turned everything over to the IRS. It's their decision if I was an employee or not. I wasn't paid much at WEG - was just there to gain experience - so even if they lose, there's not a lot of money in my pocket for the income taxes I paid. I don't know if the IRS charges penalties or not - again - not my concern.

...does Slick share your view? And, yes, I agree with you being a mindless moron.

how i said, you won't realize it, but doesn't matter neither i want to get offending, so nothing of importance anyway.

That's ok and so should it be, maybe you should also give a shit on what i have posted in the past, or was it just female curiousity which lead you to some posts i made looking for trades and quoting them ironicly? but don't worry, it's ok with me, i have a good heart for Blondes :1orglaugh

It is really, thx :thumbsup

You sir are a moron. So if they put something about giving blowjobs to the owner of their service in their tos does that make it "legal"? They had no jurisdiction in asking for the documents, period. You need to learn the laws before you type next time.

Who are these people?

Fluffers for DirectNIC employees. :)

And additionally people have to learn to read the TOS and avoid such Registrars like DirectNIC which can nuke your account even for a fart.

The right thing to do would have been to slap the fuck out of DirectNic with a lawsuit. Fuck DirectNic.

Haha, good point. :1orglaugh

Slick - commend the tone man and wish you plenty luck in resolving the remaining issues :thumbsup

Couple of things - never comment on anything while a legal issue is ongoing. Never apologise for anything. Never feel the need to "update" anyone on anything. This may be how you feel - but your feelings don't matter during a legal process - rest assured they will be used by lawyers and not in the good faith you intended.

It is even more relevent to stay away from any comment if further counter legal action is being considered.

Wish you best of luck man and hope you are fully operational very soon.

Numbnuts if you agree to it,its binding. Boy guess you dont sign many contracts lol

I can't believe this is still going on.. I don't promote teens.. But given what DirectNic did, there's no way in hell I'd ever use them.. I don't intent to put my business at risk with a company that will arbitrarily lock me out of my domains or shut down my sites. I really can't believe all the morons focused on the CP issue... What they did goes beyond that issue. In this case it was CP. Tomorrow they could get a report for something else "illegal". Do you really want to take that risk? Even if you have everything "legal" in place on your end that's no guarentee they wouldn't do the exact same thing to you.

Hey Babe, you still know how to stir the pot !!

What do you really think of directnic's actions? Are you going to run over to Mike's house and protect him from the enraged webmasters? Maybe it's time he took another trip to Europe with you. Where are your latest travel pics?

Can't wait for tommorrows.....

I think if I had faced the choice:
bnunch of GFY morons on one hand, Official complain regarding child porn on another,
I'd definately make sure that my ass which I love dearly, is open to morons (they can lick it to death, this is all they can do) than having to deal with authorities.

We just got back from Asia,
and the pics are here:
http://nocomments.com/2/

Would you not do this or rather have your main network site down?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

nice clip ... really enjoyed that!

:thumbsup

Good Luck. I hope it works out, I really do!!!

I would do what I could to get the sites back up too but in the end I would sue them. They had no right to shut you down...period.