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Old 12-15-2006, 11:06 AM   #1
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Let's Discriminate Against Girls That Are 18+ But Look Younger

I think that any girl that's 18+, but looks younger shouldn't have any right to strip or pose naked, even if that's what she wants to do, all of those rights should be taken away.

While we're at it, we should also not let her have any boyfriends either because if she's dating someone that's her age, he's gonna look like a pedo since she looks so young.

Maybe, just maybe if she turns 25 and looks 18 by then, we'll stop the discrimination and let her move on with life.

What do you think ??
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Old 12-15-2006, 11:09 AM   #2
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So, how many daughters do you have at home? 'Cuz you sure are talking like you're someone's father...
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Old 12-15-2006, 11:15 AM   #3
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So, how many daughters do you have at home? 'Cuz you sure are talking like you're someone's father...
What a fucking stupid comment.
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i agree, just because they DONT LOOK 18+ doesn't mean shit, if they are legally 18 they should beable to pose nude if they want, its based on age, not looks, fuck that bullshit!
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Old 12-15-2006, 12:04 PM   #6
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Whether younger looking 18 year olds can strip or not is not the question - the question should be why do you need sites where the girls are supposed to look like 13 year olds?
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Old 12-15-2006, 12:07 PM   #7
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I think no one under 21 should work in adult actually way too young to make that type of choice.
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Old 12-15-2006, 12:09 PM   #8
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I have ALWAYS gone by that rule anyway. I don't care if a girl is 18 if she looks 15. Period. I wont use the images.

My reasoning is to NOT draw attention. To NOT draw an inspection. To NOT attract cp sicko's to my pages. It's really very simple.

We all make choices, no biggy. It's not really an argument IMHO, just a personal comfort level.
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IIRC, Visa is already doing that and won't processing billing for them.

Tom, you and I are too old for this biz ;)
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Old 12-15-2006, 12:25 PM   #10
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If you can dress up a 12 year old to look 18 as many modeling agencies and magazines do then you can damn well dress up a young looking 18 year old to look 18.

However, if you take that young looking 18 year old and purposely pose her and costume her to look prepubescent you have in my mind crossed way over the line of what is acceptable.

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Old 12-15-2006, 12:25 PM   #11
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do you see the difference when you see a 18y old chick and a 17y old one ?
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I think no one under 21 should work in adult actually way too young to make that type of choice.


So they can signup to be butchered in Iraq, but ....


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yea, but if you are going to promote 18 year old girls that look 12, you better make sure you have 2257 on hand instead of thinking "it's sponsor provided content, so it must be all good".... All this directnic bullshit would have been avoided if he was even close to being 2257 complaint....
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If you're 40+, a lot of 18 year olds start looking 13.
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Old 12-15-2006, 12:43 PM   #15
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its not about how they look, its more about how the site is portraying them.
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i agree, just because they DONT LOOK 18+ doesn't mean shit, if they are legally 18 they should beable to pose nude if they want, its based on age, not looks, fuck that bullshit!
i dont think this is the point at all. its making them look younger than they actully are through techniques - that is what is annoying people.
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However, if you take that young looking 18 year old and purposely pose her and costume her to look prepubescent you have in my mind crossed way over the line of what is acceptable.

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Exactly right, must stay far away from sponsors who make 18 year old girls look younger on purpose.

Unfortunately plenty of teen sponsors seem to be doing that and whats worse some of the tgp guys are cropping the thumbs in a way to make them look way too young, just disgusting.

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Old 12-15-2006, 12:52 PM   #18
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So they can signup to be butchered in Iraq, but ....


Oh stop it I agree with you on that to they should be over 21 for that also . 18 is still a child on most counts.
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However, if you take that young looking 18 year old and purposely pose her and costume her to look prepubescent you have in my mind crossed way over the line of what is acceptable.

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agreed. a girl 'looking' like she is under 18 is pretty subjective but the background can definitely set the stage for such a thing.
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:01 PM   #20
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If you're 40+, a lot of 18 year olds start looking 13.
Damn, I think the opposite. I see 13 year old girls covered in make up and dressed up looking like 20 year olds! I didn't even wear mascara until I was in college, lol.
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The question is, what type of customers are you going to attract when you have 18 year old's who look like 13 year olds on your site?

Personally, I don't wish to attract that type of customer.
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:12 PM   #23
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What about diaper/baby fetish? Ex: this image portrays a young man as an infant in diapers! Gasp!




But for real, i think its fucked up when girls have their own non-nude sites up when they're 16/17 to pre-promote their upcoming hardcore site on their birthday..

There's definitely a difference in the maturity of a 16/17 year old girl and a halfway to 19 year old girl.

I want to hear the opinion of some of the younger 'models' that post here...
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:28 PM   #24
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My firends and I are 18-22 on my site and I think we look 18-22. If any webmaster signs up for my program and wants to see the ID's blacked out so they can see the date I am happy to show them, I have spoke with all the people on my site and none of them have an issue with it.
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Damn, I think the opposite. I see 13 year old girls covered in make up and dressed up looking like 20 year olds! I didn't even wear mascara until I was in college, lol.
Agree, here i usually see 13 year old girl, fully colored and they look like grown-ups, but they just look so....

Actually their behaviour says different thing..
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I think charging someone with CP when all the models are of legal age is wrong. But on the other side, if a hosting company refuses to host a site with really young looking models then that is perfectly within their rights.

I don't post thumbs to hosted galleries if the model looks too young; that's my choice. But then again, I don't even promote teen sites(unless I do a wholesale listing of all a sponsors links).
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I think no one under 21 should work in adult actually way too young to make that type of choice.

So it's ok for them to get drafted. ( god forbid that ever happens again ) but not old enough to be in porn if they chose?
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I think charging someone with CP when all the models are of legal age is wrong. But on the other side, if a hosting company refuses to host a site with really young looking models then that is perfectly within their rights.
Bingo !

Some hosting company don't allow ANY adult material. That is there right to do so.
Even a registrar could decide not to allow " adult " domain registration. I know that netfirms is very on top of that ...

But if a site has pics of an 18 yo looking younger, even if it is in bad taste or immoral, it is LEGAL.
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i agree, just because they DONT LOOK 18+ doesn't mean shit, if they are legally 18 they should beable to pose nude if they want, its based on age, not looks, fuck that bullshit!


what point didnt you get?
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We all make choices, no biggy. It's not really an argument IMHO, just a personal comfort level.
Best thing to go by there
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So they can signup to be butchered in Iraq, but ....



Yeah and they can have kids even b4 they turn 18 ..... You know you gotta do some bang bang to get pregnant , right ?
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I think that any girl that's 18+, but looks younger shouldn't have any right to strip or pose naked, even if that's what she wants to do, all of those rights should be taken away.

While we're at it, we should also not let her have any boyfriends either because if she's dating someone that's her age, he's gonna look like a pedo since she looks so young.

Maybe, just maybe if she turns 25 and looks 18 by then, we'll stop the discrimination and let her move on with life.

What do you think ??
Yeah, this is the problem. Hard one eh!
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If you can dress up a 12 year old to look 18 as many modeling agencies and magazines do then you can damn well dress up a young looking 18 year old to look 18.

However, if you take that young looking 18 year old and purposely pose her and costume her to look prepubescent you have in my mind crossed way over the line of what is acceptable.

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It disturbs me when I see an 18+ y/o who not only looks very young naturally, but is also made up to look even younger (pigtails, bald pussy) and posed with teddy bears, sucking her thumb, etc.

She may be 100% legal, but c'mon! She is marketed to appeal to pedos.

I'm sure models like that convert very well, but promoting them seems to me to be like smoking in an oil refinery.

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I have a female friend that looks very young, but she's 20. I greatly enjoy taking her out and disturbing people haha
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So a girl who is 18 and can have sex can't do so infront of a camera?
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My opinion is this: An 18 year old should be allowed to be a nude model. She is considered an ADULT. However, consider this analogy:

If Barnes&Noble carries both Hustler Magazine, and Young Miss Magazine in the store, that's fine. If they put them on the SAME RACK, that's questionable. If they put them side by side on that rack, that feels wrong. But if they fold the YM inside the Hustler and sell them together as a two pack, THAT IS FUCKED UP!

This argument is all about CONTEXT. The setting of a picture, the hair, clothing and makeup, the props, the text around the pictures, the links to other pages, and the other pictures on the same page make the difference between "fine" and "fucked up".

I believe an 18 year old girl should be allowed to model nude if she wants to. Lightspeed has been accused in the past of making our models look younger than 18, so we adjusted our sets and shooting style to be less controversial. We support ASACP and the elimination of CP from the net. I think alot of these issues would go away if people used more COMMON SENSE.

Remember: "Just because you CAN, doesn't mean you SHOULD."
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As long as a girl (or a guy for that matter) is over 18 she has every right to fuck on camera, even if she looks younger than 18.
That being said, I won't be using any of that content and I wish more people wouldn't use it either. I am not going to preach to other people to stop using questionable content, but you won't see me supporting them either.

Actually the other reason I won't preach to others to stop is that by them using questionable content they are the first target and I am not.
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First we should discriminate against milfs that try to pass off as teens.
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I think how old you are and where you live changes how old you think girls are.

I'm 23, go to university, but live in a quiet neighborhood with a junior high and a highschool.
To tell you the truth the older girls at the junoir high and the highschool girls all just blend in, only way I can tell who is who is by the guys they are around because they still look their age.
And then I go to the U and all the girls look the same or younger even then half the HS or junoir high girls even.

So when I look at these "questionable" images its hard for me to see them as being CP because they look jsut like girls I go to the U with who I know are sometimes older then I am.
But then I talk with older guys in my class, some with kids of their own, and they think all the girls look 14.
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it's all depends on the age bro...if the girl is 18+ and they want to pose for nudity, then go for it..that's their decision and not yours...if their minors, that's another story to think about and it is illegal...
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